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Does Bernie want to protect all corporations from liability suits? Or just the gun industry? [View all] DanTex Oct 2015 OP

How many bills have been introduced to protect various corporations from liability suits? Autumn Oct 2015 #1

That's my question. Does he generally favor corporations, or just corporations that either make DanTex Oct 2015 #3

You should be able to google the answers you seek Dan. I don't think that Autumn Oct 2015 #6

I'm guessing it's a little of both, but this is a complicated topic. A lot of the ALEC work is done DanTex Oct 2015 #8

If you really wanted to know you can look it up. eom Autumn Oct 2015 #11

I figured that supporters of Bernie's would have some kind of answer. DanTex Oct 2015 #14

I know the answer Dan, I googled it. Autumn Oct 2015 #18

And Camp Weathervane continues the lies and smears.... HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #2

Wrong. DanTex Oct 2015 #4

Fail. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #10

LOL. "Brings firearm manufacturers in line with other manufacturers". DanTex Oct 2015 #12

You continue to be dishonest. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #15

No, I'm stating exactly what the law stated. DanTex Oct 2015 #19

You are still incorrect. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #29

No, you are incorrect. Automakers don't have the same immunity. DanTex Oct 2015 #33

your link to the wiki page marym625 Oct 2015 #45

Yes, for some lawsuits, the rules for gun companies are still the same as for other industries. DanTex Oct 2015 #49

Again and again marym625 Oct 2015 #83

Yes, it was thrown out precisely because if unlawful misuse. Read the briefs. DanTex Oct 2015 #88

The summary judgment of the circuit court marym625 Oct 2015 #99

OK, I'll cut and paste for you. Page 32: DanTex Oct 2015 #102

That's on the cross claim. marym625 Oct 2015 #107

They decided that the claims were not allowed due to PLCAA. Not sure how this could be DanTex Oct 2015 #108

Name one case. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #55

Name one case where a lawsuit was thrown out of court against another manufacturer DanTex Oct 2015 #57

Name one case of liability for unlawfull misuse. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #67

You're claiming that unlawful misuse is grounds for dismissal outside the gun industry. DanTex Oct 2015 #69

You have yet to substantiate your OP. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #86

Of course I have. Read the text of the law, it only grants immunity to the gun industry. DanTex Oct 2015 #89

Yes, in order to eliminate the exemption.... HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #97

There was never any "exemption" until the NRA put one there. DanTex Oct 2015 #105

You still have not cited an instance of unlawfull misuse by another manufacturer. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #112

You have not cited a single instance where a lawsuit against anyone other than a gun DanTex Oct 2015 #113

As usual, you got nothing. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #115

Very strange that you claim that a legal exemption exists, but you can produce neither DanTex Oct 2015 #116

As a tort lawyer, I can assure you that you are totally wrong. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #131

If you're actually a tort lawyer, maybe you should read up on the cases that actually were filed DanTex Oct 2015 #134

I currently have no one on Ignore but you're testing the limits of that decision. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #135

Again, if you are actually a tort lawyer, then you know that unlawful misuse is not DanTex Oct 2015 #137

Enough of this baloney Jim Lane Oct 2015 #139

I couldn't agree more, enough with the baloney. DanTex Oct 2015 #140

Perhaps, the above discussion of "liabilty law", vis a vis, properly brought suits/improper verdicts 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #100

So when a Toyota has a crash, while working as intended artislife Oct 2015 #37

Yes, you can sue Toyota. There's no specific immunity against that. DanTex Oct 2015 #43

Bernie pretty powerful according to you. nt artislife Oct 2015 #46

The NRA is powerful. Bernie is just one of many congressman that it swayed. DanTex Oct 2015 #50

They are not listening Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #61

And you have a Fox contributer on H's side. artislife Oct 2015 #120

So if I poison someone's cat with Raid bugspray, S.C. Johnson & Son is liable? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #52

You can take them to court if you want, but you'll lose, DanTex Oct 2015 #53

How about if I get my arm stuck in a vending machine? Segea's gonna pay my bills, right? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #58

You can take them to court too if you want. It might be fun. DanTex Oct 2015 #60

Now, let's say I eagerly vote for a war that kills over a million and displaces millions more Scootaloo Oct 2015 #70

You can also change the subject when you're losing an argument. That's also probably fun. DanTex Oct 2015 #71

I wasn't aware we were arguing. I'm asking you questions. How about this one? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #74

We were. Now you know. DanTex Oct 2015 #75

How liable would I be, DanTex? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #78

Depends what the courts decide. Unless you're a gun manufacturer, the you don't have to worry DanTex Oct 2015 #82

From what you've been saying, there's nothing to worry about either way Scootaloo Oct 2015 #84

Probably not. I don't take you as the kind of person who would intentionally profit from DanTex Oct 2015 #90

actually if the machine was able to be designed not to have arms stuck in it dsc Oct 2015 #133

If I stab you with s fork, you can't sue the CanadaexPat Oct 2015 #65

Yes I can. But I'd lose, and be liable for the fork manufacturer's legal bills. DanTex Oct 2015 #73

Excellent post and good question. leftofcool Oct 2015 #5

Some faulty innuendo there, hoss! But - you expect yourcandidate to appeal to anyone who cares djean111 Oct 2015 #7

I'm not sure what Clinton Foundation smears have to do with Bernie's history of siding DanTex Oct 2015 #9

You are linking Bernie to gun violence. And attempting to paint Bernie as one who always sides djean111 Oct 2015 #13

Maybe he's trying to deflect attention from Clinton's vote to cluster-bomb children. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #16

That's because he sided with corporations on a legal immunity bill that stymied lawsuits DanTex Oct 2015 #17

It's linking Hillary to her approval of the use of cluster bombs on innocent victims Autumn Oct 2015 #23

OK, feel free to start an OP on that. Here I'm discussing Bernie's largesse towards the gun industry DanTex Oct 2015 #27

I am responding to your post Dan. That's the reason why OPs are posted Dan. To get responses Autumn Oct 2015 #34

Thanks for the response. I've heard the Clinton Foundation smears many times, and don't find DanTex Oct 2015 #35

You are so welcome Dan, and I really hate to burst your bubble but facts are not smears Dan. Autumn Oct 2015 #48

Let's not forget Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #85

Please cite any case that's been thrown out because of this. marym625 Oct 2015 #20

The Smith and Wesson case would have been. The NRA really didn't like that one, and it DanTex Oct 2015 #24

You're using the Illinois case marym625 Oct 2015 #47

Yes, it was. It was thrown out because of the "unlawful misuse" clause. DanTex Oct 2015 #51

see reply 99 marym625 Oct 2015 #103

From the text of the decision. DanTex Oct 2015 #104

of those claims marym625 Oct 2015 #110

Yes, of those claims. Fine, not all the claims some of them. DanTex Oct 2015 #111

Dan being dan! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #21

Yep. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #31

What would be the basis for your lawsuit against the gun manufacturers? jeff47 Oct 2015 #22

Gee, the gun industry could have just hired you as their defense lawyer instead of going to DanTex Oct 2015 #26

It's so surprising you are utterly unable to answer the simplest of questions on this. jeff47 Oct 2015 #28

Well, because the lawsuits themselves are complex. The general gist DanTex Oct 2015 #30

"Complex" is a lame cop-out for "I got nothing" jeff47 Oct 2015 #36

No, it's the reality. The fact that the lawsuits were succeeding tells you everything you DanTex Oct 2015 #41

Yet you can't manage to point to even one success. jeff47 Oct 2015 #62

Yes, I can. Smith and Wesson. DanTex Oct 2015 #68

Hilarious is the people claiming victory in that lawsuit. jeff47 Oct 2015 #77

Weird, huh. The NRA went to all that effort all because of a "nothing" lawsuit. DanTex Oct 2015 #79

Then point to the something. jeff47 Oct 2015 #81

I just posted a huge list of things that Smith and Wesson changed. Do you want me to cut and paste DanTex Oct 2015 #91

No, you posted an article claiming there were changes. jeff47 Oct 2015 #92

I posted a link to the Clinton press release. OK, I'll cut and paste for you. DanTex Oct 2015 #93

He can't provide one example. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #56

LOL. You failed in one reply. Can't answer the questions. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #138

Thank you for opening my eyes and changing my mind whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #25

PERFECT! KPN Oct 2015 #32

Shameful silenttigersong Oct 2015 #38

Bernie's vote is part of the problem. Answer the question. leftofcool Oct 2015 #39

Good question. I think he was wrong to vote for these liability protections for gun makers. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #40

The immunity from lawsuits for the gun industry is stupid Gothmog Oct 2015 #42

What is the basis of their liability? jeff47 Oct 2015 #87

So little avenue for attack so we're back to this again...LOL eom NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #44

Customer stabbed with Happy Meal Android3.14 Oct 2015 #54

It's downright comical. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #63

. Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #64

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #94

Rhetoric, it's not for everyone Android3.14 Oct 2015 #114

This is why the OP was created Oilwellian Oct 2015 #124

+1 beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #125

Indeed Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #130

How nice that you reduce guns deaths to Happy Meals leftofcool Oct 2015 #142

I can't hear you with all the echoes coming from the cave Android3.14 Oct 2015 #143

The nuclear power industry has similar protection. CanadaexPat Oct 2015 #59

And small aircraft Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #129

Just the gun industry. zappaman Oct 2015 #66

How many Republicans and Republican Lites INdemo Oct 2015 #72

I've noticed a lot of people trying to change the subject on this OP. Wonder why that is? DanTex Oct 2015 #76

Possibly because it's a dead horse Armstead Oct 2015 #95

Interesting that he singled out the gun industry for immunity. It's actually nothing like the DanTex Oct 2015 #96

It was a BS OP in the first place. INdemo Oct 2015 #109

Interesting question Dan, does cause a pause to consider. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #80

Obiously, no. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #98

This is a bunch of bull zalinda Oct 2015 #101

Those are strange predictions about what would happen in the absence of this law. DanTex Oct 2015 #106

I can only imagine that its really sad to be a Bernie supporter workinclasszero Oct 2015 #117

Sad to be an American on such a day. DanTex Oct 2015 #118

Yes it is. workinclasszero Oct 2015 #119

He won't LIE about it . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #128

Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #121

Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2015 #122

It takes talent to hijack ones own thread Fearless Oct 2015 #123

The only exception is Bernie siding with any corporation, look at his history . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #126

How many others Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #127

You do know that McDonalds was sued for selling a faulty product, right? last1standing Oct 2015 #132

"Straw Man, Straw Man" Aerows Oct 2015 #136

The pretzel logic of the OP and the surreal level of intellectual dishonesty the OP demonstrates in Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #141