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62. Correct

Reply to ibegurpard (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:18 PM

Oct 2015

Doesn't everyone wish the two could be separated? Absolutely, but that's not how the legal system works.

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Bernie and Guns [View all] Fawke Em Oct 2015 OP

Bernie needs to come out say his vote against the Brady Bill was a mistake. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #1

Why? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #3

it wasn't a mistake ibegurpard Oct 2015 #6

Like abortion. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #12

Wrong. Gun manufacturers could make guns safer moobu2 Oct 2015 #42

Correct Fearless Oct 2015 #62

Cigarette companies were sued for a legal product mythology Oct 2015 #91

It wasn't a mistake..........If you want to make guns illegal, do it virtualobserver Oct 2015 #9

Umm... if the lawsuits would be thrown out of court, there would be no need for the law. DanTex Oct 2015 #11

as I said, it is an ass-backward approach.....if you want to ban guns, do it virtualobserver Oct 2015 #17

Can you explain to me the exact process by which a suit against a third party would lessen shootings Scootaloo Oct 2015 #19

Tobacco companies, after enough lawsuits, began to support heavy restriction of sale to minors. And msanthrope Oct 2015 #20

Easy enough to verify if someone is of majority age or not. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #21

Waiting periods and extensive background checks....that would help, no? msanthrope Oct 2015 #22

What control do manufacturers have over who dealers sell to, currently? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #23

gun manufacturers have the same rights other corporations do. msanthrope Oct 2015 #37

We had the techonolgy then and we certainly do now. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #13

Part of the reason for a 5 day waiting period was for a cooling off period. -none Oct 2015 #83

Bernie is totally wrong on guns. workinclasszero Oct 2015 #73

How is his pro-gun control stance wrong? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #79

Both Obama and Hillary are pro-2A as well. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #2

DUers should be smart enough to know that it's not just about guns. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #5

Is Europe and Japan free of mentally ill people? dsc Oct 2015 #38

They also have single-payer. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #77

actually neither France nor Switzerland dsc Oct 2015 #92

I'm a handgun owner ibegurpard Oct 2015 #4

Thank you. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #7

That's right! ibegurpard Oct 2015 #10

I could go tomorrow and apply for a permit. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #15

....x10+ 840high Oct 2015 #8

You own a handgun? Why doesn't that surprise me? nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #45

your opinion is of no consequence to me ibegurpard Oct 2015 #52

We've had this argument before Hydra Oct 2015 #14

The First Amendment, which I like even more. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #16

I'm a big fan of the First Amendment too Hydra Oct 2015 #41

no, it's the guns--it ain't lawn furniture MisterP Oct 2015 #18

Please explain how one can do a mass killing with a knife, or any other weaponry DebJ Oct 2015 #26

Knife-wielding attackers kill 29, injure 130 at China train station beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #27

Yeah, I've had that one quoted to me before. That ONE. DebJ Oct 2015 #28

The Osaka school massacre beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #29

It is simply logic, common sense, physics, that we would not have the proliferation of mass killings DebJ Oct 2015 #30

Disingenuous/straw man. I never said any of those things. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #32

Scottie I'm not arguing with you or your points. Whoopdee doo it's happened a handful of times. DebJ Oct 2015 #33

You were arguing that mass killings don't happen without guns or bombs. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #34

You are funny Scotty. Like I said, people also have died in other bizarre and unusual circumstances DebJ Oct 2015 #35

You are the one who claimed mass murderers couldn't use knives. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #55

Poison, although I suspect bombs would be the next answer most of these people would pick Hydra Oct 2015 #43

We do need more mental health counseling, but more than anything we need anger management JDPriestly Oct 2015 #24

First we need to teach about 1/3 of our population that compromise is a necessity in society. DebJ Oct 2015 #31

I would put it this way: we need to teach people to share. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #51

Everything I needed to know in life, I learned in kindergarden. n/t DebJ Oct 2015 #63

Yes. I note that the European countries that have lower rates of massacres and higher JDPriestly Oct 2015 #64

Whatever happened to talk of banning handguns? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #25

a ban violates the second amendment nt alp227 Oct 2015 #36

You mean the gun lobby's interpretation of the 2nd.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #46

No. The Supreme Court's interpretation. Read Heller. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #53

So you're siding with the conservatives? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #56

No. Pointing out an obvious reason why you can't ban hand guns. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #57

Because of rulings by Conservatives.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #58

Really? Happens all the time? hack89 Oct 2015 #59

Dred Scott for a start. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #60

Which was succeeded by the 14A and not another Supreme Court decision. hack89 Oct 2015 #61

Brown vs Board of Education. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #65

Are you noticing the trend here? hack89 Oct 2015 #66

The trend is reversing conservative wins.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #67

Repukes have been saying the same about Roe v Wade forever hack89 Oct 2015 #68

Because they don't REALLY want to outlaw abortion... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #69

Yet you are so sure liberals want to ban guns?. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #70

Not ALL guns. My point is we've retreated into futility..... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #71

Heller does not prevent that at all hack89 Oct 2015 #72

Wrong. There's massive public support.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #74

For things like UBCs hack89 Oct 2015 #75

We could get more. The public is NOT on the side of the NRA. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #76

True hack89 Oct 2015 #81

I used to live out beyond the phone and electric lines.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #82

Until someone explains how registration will reduce gun deaths hack89 Oct 2015 #84

Then I guess having ballistics linked to serial numbers would freak you out too. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #85

Been tried and failed hack89 Oct 2015 #86

That's where you take it in for inspection, updated ballistics and reregistration.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #88

Have you looked at the compliance rate for registration hack89 Oct 2015 #89

How will that reduce gun deaths? hack89 Oct 2015 #87

Such a ban is off the table until Heller is repealed. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #40

The dissenting opinions on that had the Right screaming, "gun grab". Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #47

The right is not known for their intelligence. nt hack89 Oct 2015 #48

They're known for their tantrums. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #50

Lost cause. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #90

The gun issue pinebox Oct 2015 #39

I imagine Bernie's actions just after the shooting was well planed. moobu2 Oct 2015 #44

Mental health isn't a factor? Really? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #78

Does Hillary believe that mental health isn't a factor? How about Obama? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #80

Just one quibble, not this 'board' just the same few who post anti Bernie OPs repeatedly but so sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #49

That is what I heard him say also. jwirr Oct 2015 #54