2016 Postmortem

cui bono

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127. Of course it does. What world are you living in?

Sat Oct 3, 2015, 04:17 PM

Oct 2015

Certainly not a utopian one where the overlords share their good fortune with the serfs.

Please. You can't possibly be paying any attention to what's going on in the world of corporate takeovers and say that. Why is everyone suffering then? I'm going to assume you agree that there are people suffering in this world.

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It's not complicated: if you like how the US is doing these days, you should back Hillary [View all] MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 OP

A Vote For HRC Is A Vote For Establishment DLC Third Way Politics And Policies - That Is No Chnage cantbeserious Oct 2015 #1

A vote for HRC is a vote to CONTINUE the direction the Democratic Party Hortensis Oct 2015 #201

A Vote For HRC Is A Vote For Establishment DLC Third Way Politics And Policies - That Is No Chnage cantbeserious Oct 2015 #206

Manny, it's not complicated: some people actually benefit from the status quo. nt antigop Oct 2015 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #14

A classic image to support your salient point FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #17

It didn't convince anyone in 1911, what.... PosterChild Oct 2015 #142

Very sad isn't it? mdbl Oct 2015 #181

What is sad . ... PosterChild Oct 2015 #194

Depends on what you are talking about. mdbl Oct 2015 #200

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not merrily Oct 2015 #45

and they pay sock puppets to make their numbers look larger yurbud Oct 2015 #69

And even more think they do even when it is actually hurting them. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2015 #70

"But if you think, like most Americans, it's been a disaster"... SidDithers Oct 2015 #3

Seems that way MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #9

Only to Republicans, Manny ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #158

So you're claiming that 69% of Americans are Republicans? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #160

Not sure if your obtuseness is deliberate ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #166

Deep breath now. Ok, what specific question did Mr. Dithers ask? nt MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #167

His name is "Obama" not "Dithers". Is there some lithium you forgot to take? NT ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #197

WTF? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #198

More or less what I could have also responded to your last post ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #199

Some do, sone don't. I'd say it's mixed Armstead Oct 2015 #12

Most of us on the bottom have not been the recipient of jwirr Oct 2015 #40

Well Sid ibegurpard Oct 2015 #57

CAD. dirty oil enid602 Oct 2015 #130

What would you expect from a guy who voted Reagan? zappaman Oct 2015 #74

Well, there's that. Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #78

Yep Andy823 Oct 2015 #81

Hey, at least *I* abandoned those ideals 30+ years ago MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #82

You also thought the 2008 election should have gone the other way, so your math is off! zappaman Oct 2015 #84

I guess reading what's written isn't your thing? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #91

I can read fine. zappaman Oct 2015 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Oct 2015 #87

Thank you. And apparently also thinks regularly shitting on the first black president Number23 Oct 2015 #143

It's the daily fact free rant GitRDun Oct 2015 #80

UNfortunately, he's correct Armstead Oct 2015 #110

I can't go with you on this stuff. GitRDun Oct 2015 #122

I can't go with you because.... Armstead Oct 2015 #133

Yeah yeah all bad GitRDun Oct 2015 #148

Never said Clintons were ALL bad nor that Sanders is perfect Armstead Oct 2015 #162

16,000,000 American children living in poverty ain't too happy, as well as about 32 million rhett o rick Oct 2015 #134

But,but,but... Armstead Oct 2015 #136

Shhhhhh. Everything is FINE. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #172

16 million hungry children is not important to those who want to continue the, for them, sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #183

Do you live here? Got a job here? Talk to the average family here on a regular basis? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #170

The status quo has got to go. azmom Oct 2015 #4

I dont ibegurpard Oct 2015 #5

I'll take Paul Lynde for the block. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #6

I'll take Pat Paulsen Mnpaul Oct 2015 #46

Pat. :>))) +1000 pangaia Oct 2015 #61

Oh how I loved him!! haikugal Oct 2015 #68

great retro reference!! nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #48

right now is when we need to fight for who we believe in corkhead Oct 2015 #7

Hey I like your sig line! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #11

I saw yours about the same time I added that. corkhead Oct 2015 #16

Right? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #18

Where I live, they are identical. America is not the only country in the world. DFW Oct 2015 #36

Nay, nay! They also have the SPD, sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #79

Of course we have the SPD (and Greens), and you are quite right--Bernie IS a social democrat DFW Oct 2015 #88

Exactly what Bernie Supporters do today! MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #96

Well, not the ones I know DFW Oct 2015 #101

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #145

HRC is the status quo especially if you wish her to lean right of Obama aikoaiko Oct 2015 #8

Kick to the heavens! marym625 Oct 2015 #10

Were Hillary to win the nomination, vote for her. She'd be the better republican, hands down! cpompilo Oct 2015 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Oct 2015 #25

The Conservative Democrats didn't learn a thing by their loss in 2000. YOU CAN'T FORCE THOSE ON rhett o rick Oct 2015 #157

And if you want to go back to the GOP in the White House, you should vote for Bernie. DanTex Oct 2015 #15

thanks for the suggestion. corkhead Oct 2015 #20

No kidding! leftofcool Oct 2015 #26

Another Clinton supporter declaring their vote for the Republicans Scootaloo Oct 2015 #27

Huh? I'm voting for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is. DanTex Oct 2015 #29

You just asserted it was guaranteed. And probably did so with a smile on your face. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #30

I've told you many times, I like Bernie. Don't agree with him on everything, for example, that DanTex Oct 2015 #31

Yes, you've told me that many times. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #33

+1 Not at all shabby, Scootaloo. merrily Oct 2015 #109

^^^THIS ^ THIS ^ THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #120

That's because it's true. DanTex Oct 2015 #123

You've just shown how disingenuous you are. cui bono Oct 2015 #126

That's some name-calling there! DanTex Oct 2015 #129

I bet Nothingcleverjustray Oct 2015 #146

Well said, Scootaloo. senz Oct 2015 #149

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #152

4 days late to this party of a post but Puglover Oct 2015 #207

How does that old saying go? A Simple Game Oct 2015 #99

You nailed it. GoneOffShore Oct 2015 #161

They have nothing else. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2015 #191

He appeals to the 63%. Clinton does not n/t eridani Oct 2015 #50

Even among regular voters, Republicans will not vote for her, some Democrats and many indies will merrily Oct 2015 #58

If you want a Republican President, vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton in the primary. merrily Oct 2015 #52

^^^^THIS^^^^ haikugal Oct 2015 #71

Thanks. Can't reply: Time to watch BernieTV (Springfield, MA rally) merrily Oct 2015 #73

Blammo. hifiguy Oct 2015 #204

According to Goldman-Sachs, it doesn't matter if it's Clinton or Bush. I assume you feel the rhett o rick Oct 2015 #135

reminds me of an Upton Sinclair quote: antigop Oct 2015 #19

Posted that quote in response to your Reply 2 before I read your Reply 19. Sorry! merrily Oct 2015 #54

Don't be sorry. It needs to be repeated! nt antigop Oct 2015 #102

Thanks TWM! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #22

Too Sad That One Does Not Recognize The Suffering Of Others cantbeserious Oct 2015 #32

The suffering has always been. But it's far less today than in the past. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #37

Guess One Does Not Follow Economics And the Concentration Of Wealth by The 1% cantbeserious Oct 2015 #39

Concentration of wealth does not = suffering. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #41

Au Contraire - All Economic Stats Show Most Living Pay Check to Pay Check - No Economic Progress cantbeserious Oct 2015 #43

Yes, the 1% are not suffering. merrily Oct 2015 #63

Yeh I guess you're right. There's always Jesus Armstead Oct 2015 #115

Of course it does. What world are you living in? cui bono Oct 2015 #127

Tell that to the family who got the food stamp cuts during jwirr Oct 2015 #49

Right, but my comment was referring to historically. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #51

Since I am old enough to remember when we did not have jwirr Oct 2015 #59

Untrue. merrily Oct 2015 #62

Thanks for the history lesson. BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #65

Backatcha. Post 62 was my conclusory reply to your conclusory post 37. merrily Oct 2015 #86

So what's your point? Don't strive to reduce suffering? Be satisfied with what you've been rhett o rick Oct 2015 #137

Well said. historylovr Oct 2015 #193

I don't and I won't. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #23

This is the best thread I've read in a long time. Thanks to Manny and all who contributed. Scuba Oct 2015 #24

What have you done Indepatriot Oct 2015 #28

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #153

We have been trying to correct the result of neo-con, neo-liberal and Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #34

Sure, millions more insured, millions more employed, Prez blocked by asshole GOP Persondem Oct 2015 #35

Let's examine that a bit more closely shall we? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #42

Wow, you are very selective and so much the glass half empty kind of person. Nevermind. nt. Persondem Oct 2015 #97

History did not start in 2008. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #94

No. But the OP is implying that it did with the "If you like how things are going ..." bit. nt. Persondem Oct 2015 #98

Only if you pretend history began in 2008. jeff47 Oct 2015 #100

You apparently buy into the hyperbole of the OP. He's saying the Clinton's own today's problems Persondem Oct 2015 #103

Rightist Democrats certainly bear a share of the blame, including those who merrily Oct 2015 #105

Well, she helped found the DLC jeff47 Oct 2015 #106

You seem to be trying realy hard to blame HRC for things. Persondem Oct 2015 #118

No, just accurately citing her record. jeff47 Oct 2015 #124

The NAFTA thing was 20+ years ago. Since then she has been a senator and SoS. Persondem Oct 2015 #139

The DLC had nothing to do with that Bush tax cut Mnpaul Oct 2015 #174

I didn't see a mention of the DLC role in the article Persondem Oct 2015 #182

Oh we can see the votes Mnpaul Oct 2015 #184

Got it. Thank you. The initial vote was by voice only. The vote you linked to is the Persondem Oct 2015 #187

Wow, welcome to DU. Have we met before? So you are satisfied with the status quo? rhett o rick Oct 2015 #163

That's it in a nut shell. Autumn Oct 2015 #38

Hillary would be a massive step backwards from the Obama years. askew Oct 2015 #44

BLESS YOU ASKEW onecent Oct 2015 #151

Bernie supporters do their candidate no favors when blindly attacking Obama. askew Oct 2015 #47

I do not see this post as an attack on President Obama. He jwirr Oct 2015 #55

It reads that way. askew Oct 2015 #90

From what you are saying here - you are not a Bernie supporter. jwirr Oct 2015 #112

Please see replies 92 and 100. merrily Oct 2015 #117

I don't "blindly attack" Obama. Maedhros Oct 2015 #83

Your views are in the distinct minority and definitely comes across as an attack on Obama. askew Oct 2015 #89

I don't articularly care who "loves" Obama. Maedhros Oct 2015 #104

You keep saying Democrats love Obama. Do you realize that jwirr Oct 2015 #114

History didn't start in 2008. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #92

"You can't win the primary by attacking Obama." Honestly starting to think that's the plan for some Number23 Oct 2015 #144

My autistic son suffered terribly under Race to the Top. I am vocally critical of Obama and will liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #165

STRAWMAN. No one has been "attacking Obama". Some of us object to the TPP, but rhett o rick Oct 2015 #195

There is a large contingent of the Democratic rank-and-file Maedhros Oct 2015 #202

i do not like or want restorefreedom Oct 2015 #53

Maybe not complicated, but that simple, either DFW Oct 2015 #56

I am voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton.... stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #60

I'm voting democratic party workinclasszero Oct 2015 #64

I don't always disagree with MannyGoldstein, but, when I do, it's not likely to be about beer. merrily Oct 2015 #66

Yup. SoapBox Oct 2015 #67

A vote for Hillary is a vote for plutocracy. Broward Oct 2015 #72

I have cast my last "hold my nose" ballot. 99Forever Oct 2015 #75

Great Advice. Thank You. I will Vote for HRC!! lobodons Oct 2015 #76

Manny takes tongue out of cheek.... daleanime Oct 2015 #77

She's too big to fail. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #85

I think you are wrong. I hope you are wrong. onecent Oct 2015 #150

The Beltway now thinks a war requires a sales pitch. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #156

Obama is "responsible" for how thing are "these days". did you vote for him twice? nt msongs Oct 2015 #95

No Obama inherited an existing massive mess Armstead Oct 2015 #111

Actually it's doing okay. not well though.. that part has nothing to do with Obama PatrynXX Oct 2015 #107

All Hillary supporters must be rich. I don't see any other reason why someone would vote for her, Zorra Oct 2015 #108

Exactly my thoughts. Nt darkangel218 Oct 2015 #116

Not only rich, but unwiling to pay their fair share. Bernie does have wealthy supporters. merrily Oct 2015 #119

We know a few certainly are. Juicy_Bellows Oct 2015 #132

Status quo? Oh meum! OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #113

Dueling charts! merrily Oct 2015 #121

There's another chart here? OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #125

My apologies. "Dueling Polls" would have been more accurate. But nothing was hidden. merrily Oct 2015 #131

Okay, then. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #138

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #128

I love it when you say the exact same things as the Republicans! IronLionZion Oct 2015 #140

If you like the flexibility of being considered a Democrat while sending millions of jobs to Asia, whereisjustice Oct 2015 #141

A vote for Bernie is a wasted vote moobu2 Oct 2015 #147

You folks do know if Bernie Sanders were to get himself elected moobu2 Oct 2015 #154

Or he might actually do what he did as mayor... Armstead Oct 2015 #168

Seems a lot like what Obama did... kjones Oct 2015 #186

Well if you want to misrepresnet what Sanders actually said, sure Armstead Oct 2015 #189

If Bernie would cause gridlock, do tell: On what issues/policies is Hillary going to LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #176

If you just want to rant about change, vote for Sanders. That's all he'll accomplish, assuming he Hoyt Oct 2015 #155

What is Hillary gong to accomplish? LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #177

Most importantly, she can get elected. If she does nothing but appoint several Supreme Hoyt Oct 2015 #178

Ahhh, the quick switcheroo! Nicely done LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #179

Well, Manny Thespian2 Oct 2015 #159

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #164

Go Bernie! The candidate of the PEOPLE! Not the CORPORATIONS! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #169

anybody the dems run as prez is going to handily beat whatever nutbag the goppers put up KG Oct 2015 #171

That's what they are scared of Fumesucker Oct 2015 #173

Much of it controlled by nominal "Democrats' hifiguy Oct 2015 #205

K&R For some people, as long as the corporations win, they win. raouldukelives Oct 2015 #175

I should stop backing Bernie? Onlooker Oct 2015 #180

If you want to go back to the 1990s left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #185

I would love that! OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #190

Same here left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #192

Hmm kjones Oct 2015 #188

I'd take 8 more years of Obama ... so OK! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #196

Gettin me fired up Manny... K&R n/t ion_theory Oct 2015 #203

Hmm...depends on what you're looking at, I guess. MineralMan Oct 2015 #208