2016 Postmortem

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12. For heaven's sake, HillsHouse

Mon Oct 5, 2015, 05:09 PM

Oct 2015

If you are attempting to paint Bernie Sanders as a gun nut to DU and the public at large, you are barking up the wrong tree.

I live in a rural area, and I have long guns. I have relatives that hunt white-tail deer, which if they didn't, deer would overrun us and cause car accidents because they run across the road.

Feral hogs are an issue in this neck of the woods, and hell, I'm known for having a raccoon problem. They are small, so I just catch and release them in swampy areas miles away. I don't kill anything if I don't have to.

What are you going to do about an alligator on your property? Orate at it? Maybe deliver a speech about how your policies will lift all boats?

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"How the National Rifle Association helped get Bernie Sanders elected" [View all] BainsBane Oct 2015 OP

This is an excellent article. I am waiting to see how Sanders explains this in a debate. leftofcool Oct 2015 #1

Oh yeah Bernie workinclasszero Oct 2015 #22

You're really going to blame Bernie for gun deaths? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #62

A hell of a lot more Americans... bobclark86 Oct 2015 #71

And how is Bernie responsible for those deaths? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #72

How many gun control bills has he voted against? bobclark86 Oct 2015 #75

You tell me. Start with his last vote re: banning assault weapons and background checks. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

LOL-- This HELPS Bernie with those on the right, rural types, Independents. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #148

The NRA hated Bernie after he voted to ban assault weapons in 1994. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #161

Oh those pesky facts again workinclasszero Oct 2015 #79

You didn't answer my question about dead Iraqis and American soldiers. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #80

The answer is right in the OP, he was going to represent the citizens of Vermont, A Simple Game Oct 2015 #106

And ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #219

Hm, so only American lives matter to you? cui bono Oct 2015 #262

He did say his name was 'zero'. Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #122

I read the article and found nothing that needs "explaining". HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #45

Explains what? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #60

I am waiting to see how Sanders explains this in a debate. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #135

Me too. ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #156

Jarhead Aerows Oct 2015 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #2

This must account for Bernie's "D-" NRA rating? 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #3

Exploitation of last week's tragedy, part two. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #9

I agree. Stay classy OP. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2015 #259

Did you actually read the article? BainsBane Oct 2015 #236

1990 passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #246

Especially since he voted to ban assault weapons and for background checks in 1994. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #247

I disagree they aren't relevant BainsBane Oct 2015 #254

see my post on this issue of mfg responsibility passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #260

Posts like yours defending gun makers BainsBane Oct 2015 #261

Bernie's record and stances on gun control ibegurpard Oct 2015 #4

Already posted when it was news - twice: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #5

He will be asked about this in a debate. Hope he has a good answer. leftofcool Oct 2015 #8

For what? He did nothing wrong. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #10

CNN will ask him about it regardless. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #17

He always is prepared, it's Hillary that needs to work on her debating skills. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #19

Of course they will. CNN needs SOMEthing to talk about besides income inequality, TPP & climate change. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #118

Voting against the Brady Bill was a GOOD thing? n/t bobclark86 Oct 2015 #73

He voted against it because he thought background checks should be done by the state. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

Ahh, the "state's rights" argument. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #81

He was voting in the best interest of Vermonters. Explain Bernie's last vote re: background checks beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

A flip-flopper going left for a primary. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #84

That vote was in 2013. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #86

Hurr, youre so funnie!!!! bobclark86 Oct 2015 #104

You mean the 206 bills Bernie sponsored/cosponsored that were signed into law? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #107

NOT co-sponsored. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #124

bob said: "please point to the bills he's proposed that actually became law" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #129

You don't know what "proposed" means... bobclark86 Oct 2015 #163

Definition of "propose": put forward (an idea or plan) for consideration or discussion by others beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #166

Not as a sponsor, he wasn't. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #167

So his name was on the bills, then? Good! Glad we've got that cleared up, bob! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #168

Hillary was in favour of letting cities and states determine local gun laws: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #87

Well done! Go Vols Oct 2015 #224

Thank you, neighbor! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #225

Well done! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #89

You do realize bob just got caught making shit up, justin, right? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #93

He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #98

Then explain why he voted for a ban on assault weapons in 1994, justin. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #101

He didn't get every vote wrong. He got it right sometimes on guns. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #105

You just said he only voted to ban them in 2013 because he knew he was running in 2013. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #108

I never said that. I said well done. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #112

hrmjustin: "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #116

My answered below. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #141

Did you admit you were making shit up about why he voted for a ban? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #145

Can't stop can you! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #154

hrmjustin: "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #155

He is not the only one in favor of state's rights concerning gun control Mnpaul Oct 2015 #217

Okay, here's the answer Roy Rolling Oct 2015 #85

Thank you. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #88

Are you kidding me? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #94

Yup. iandhr Oct 2015 #134

Lol. I didn't think the Mets woulc get this far. Good luck tomorrow! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #138

Thanks iandhr Oct 2015 #160

Hey wait a minute Gothmog Oct 2015 #171

Lol and i wish the best of luck to your team as well. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #173

One of my favorite playoff series was Mets/Astros in 1986 George II Oct 2015 #268

He will give a good answer, because he is not a malefactor, Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #130

hillary will be asked about the iraq war restorefreedom Oct 2015 #196

When you only have three pairs of pants you gotta rotate those suckers Autumn Oct 2015 #15

I think of it like a compost pile, they have to keep churning it. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #18

I think that is a cheap sexist shot at Hillary Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #61

What are you on about? Did Hillary repost the op for the third time on DU? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #63

Got the three did ya? Autumn Oct 2015 #149

Math is hard for some people. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #152

Math and facts are hard for some people. Autumn Oct 2015 #158

Like people who claim they never heard this story but posted in a thread about it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #164

Missed the reference Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #201

Fair enough. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #202

That wasn't a shot at Hillary. Hillary wears pantsuits, nice pantsuits, not pants Autumn Oct 2015 #195

That is a bit low. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #69

Did Hillary post the OP? FWIW I didn't say pantsuits, and I am on record that Autumn Oct 2015 #143

Figures you can't see how low it was. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #147

I see a lot of low stuff just not in my fellow DUers, Autumn Oct 2015 #153

I'm a strong Bernie supporter, but may I suggest that you remove your post. Needs some JDPriestly Oct 2015 #103

if I were talking about Hillary, I would have made it clear I was talking about Hillary. Autumn Oct 2015 #180

why? there is absolutely nothing wrong with that post. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #182

Did not know this. I liked what I saw from Hillary's proposals today. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #6

Oh please ibegurpard Oct 2015 #11

Trying to figure out how to respond to your issue so I will just say.. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #13

you and your friends have been pushing this for months ibegurpard Oct 2015 #20

Calling me a liar? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #21

Fishing for an alertable response? Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #29

The poster addressed me. I didn't search this poster out. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #32

Are you calling him a liar? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #35

I asked first. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #37

You did post in this thread from July: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #41

I will be honest and say i really did not remember this story. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #43

Sure, whatever you say justin. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #95

Yeah it is what I said. I am not a liar. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #100

mmm hmmmm beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #102

Keep going but be aware I don't care what you think of me. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #109

It's a good thing because you were less than honest upthread. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #114

I never said only. Stop making things up. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #115

hrmjustin: "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #117

You said hrmjustin Oct 2015 #119

Oh dear, did someone hack your account and type those words? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #123

You said... hrmjustin Oct 2015 #127

You said hrmjustin Oct 2015 #128

You said "Well done!" when bob made the mistake of claiming Bernie flip flopped before the primary. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #133

You say he failed, not me. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #137

And you high-fived him and repeated his answer to me. Or did someone else type that? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #139

Lol. Keep going all night if you need to. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #140

No, I think I proved my point. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #142

Then stop and it won't smell anymore. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #146

That would be your friend bob and looks you got some on you too: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #151

I replied above to you. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #121

So you didn't type the words "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #125

I'm not going to say... ibegurpard Oct 2015 #54

I know nothing! neverforget Oct 2015 #64

Oooohhh, Justin. azmom Oct 2015 #67

ha!! ya mean you were gonna pick Bernie??? ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wendylaroux Oct 2015 #50

Can not say i feel the same about you. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #52

that's alright, wendylaroux Oct 2015 #55

And Sanders has my vote if he wins the primary. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #56

Rinse and repeat deadlinetony Oct 2015 #7

Welcome to DU, exactly rinse and repeat! n/t slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #170

For heaven's sake, HillsHouse Aerows Oct 2015 #12

I hope everybody reads the entire article HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #14

Horseshit like this make me regret having Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #16

Why go after the Republicans when you can attack pro-gun control Dem candidates? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #23

You regret posting your link because some anonymous poster on a message board Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #24

Yes. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #26

What was fabricated in the op? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #40

Either a) they googled and posted the first article they found beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

Yes? So you regret posting the article because somebody on the interwebz made you angry... Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #53

no it is more like what the fuck is wrong with Clinton supporters here on the DU community. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #181

You owe me a keyboard! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #194

How is this a ridiculous smear? iandhr Oct 2015 #120

The circular logic is truly a thing to behold , isn't it? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #30

What's logical about bringing up his NRA rating and then claiming you don't care about it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #51

Lordy lu, hifiguy Oct 2015 #25

Swiftboating - ur doin it wrong beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #39

How dare you post anything that shows Sanders in a bad light! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #27

Indeed! Only OP's pointing out the non-perfection of other candidates is permitted! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #31

And they call us sensitive. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #34

As the OP merely reports, Sanders does not have an F rating from the NRA for a reason. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #36

What grade does he have and why, Fred? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47

Ratings from ISIS and ratings from the NRA are equally nothing I would care about. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #48

Then why did you bring it up? Did you have a point? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #49

This is the first I've heard of this..... frylock Oct 2015 #65

Ok. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #66

lol ibegurpard Oct 2015 #111

You know that's not what Bernie supporters complaint about this is. Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #199

Do you dispute the accuracy of this article? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #203

good luck with that Doctor_J Oct 2015 #28

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #33

this (false) perception of NRA support will actually help him in the general n/t zazen Oct 2015 #38

Sanders has demonstrably given partial support to NRA positions, when ZERO is the correct amount. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #58

And I will do my very best to get Bernie Sanders elected this time. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #42

Thank you for opening my eyes and changing my mind whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #44

Sanders supporters are generally not single-issue voters. Are you? -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #126

nope whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #132

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #57

The Gloat before the Debate silenttigersong Oct 2015 #59

Is anyone here claiming the article is getting facts wrong? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #68

No. leftofcool Oct 2015 #91

And that is interesting. They can dish it out but can't handle criticism or seeing their candidate hrmjustin Oct 2015 #97

NOPE uponit7771 Oct 2015 #211

Just a lot of people who can dish it out but can't take it. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #212

Oh look, Clinton drones attacking Bernie on guns. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #70

HillsHouse lives for this. n/t Aerows Oct 2015 #76

Wow! Don't like criticism of your candidate? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #83

Obviously ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #162

Meet kettle. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #172

Several? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #175

As in more than one, yes. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #176

I was flagged once and had one five hide vacation so yes it is plural. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #178

So why are you throwing stones at Bernie's supporters from your glass house? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #179

My point still stands. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #183

Your point is an amputee because you are guilty of the same thing. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #184

My point still stand and is correct. All of you comments can not changed that. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #188

You still owe me a new irony meter. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #189

Not at all, one person told me recently that Sanders can throw stones.... really, this was typed and uponit7771 Oct 2015 #210

Have you rec'd the thread showing Bernie's proposals yet? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #213

No, I don't trust him on the issues of guns seeing his support for corporations that make them uponit7771 Oct 2015 #214

So you don't care where the candidates stand. Good to know that the issue isn't that important. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #215

Yeah i just don't trust Sanders on the gun issue either. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #216

So, you believe that the company that makes Hummers passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #252

How SATAN really helped get Sanders elected Armstead Oct 2015 #78

NRA spelled backward is BERNIE SANDERS. Duh. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #92

If Hillary wants to be the gun-control candidate, let her. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #90

NRA was not always evil FreedomRain Oct 2015 #96

Is Sanders owned by the NRA? Hoyt Oct 2015 #99

Just Asking Questions..... frylock Oct 2015 #191

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #248

I like that! :) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #249

Idiots will suffice. frylock Oct 2015 #253

I posted this article in the Sanders forum. iandhr Oct 2015 #110

Bash, bash, bash ... Scuba Oct 2015 #113

I didn't read all the posts TeddyR Oct 2015 #131

As pointed out many times, voting records are open for public to see, even Bernie points out several Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #136

If so then good, they helped one of the very finest representitives of our times. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #144

My reaction to this bushel of schlopp tkmorris Oct 2015 #150

Shame on you for posting this steaming pile of Logical Fallacy. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #157

And now THAT is making the NRA sweat! benld74 Oct 2015 #159

Huge UNREC for this shit. 840high Oct 2015 #165

Great article Gothmog Oct 2015 #169

And you could have read the article back in July when it was first published and posted ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #174

Wow. Just WOW. concreteblue Oct 2015 #177

Amazin' ain't it? hifiguy Oct 2015 #190

Gotta say this: you don't give up! truebluegreen Oct 2015 #185

Well. Yosemite Sam never gave up hifiguy Oct 2015 #193

You really hate Berni Sanders that much... demmiblue Oct 2015 #186

Wow. I didn't even notice the #fuckthebern in her sig line. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #198

Can you even imagine the hissy fit if a Sanders or O'Malley supporter did the equivalent?! demmiblue Oct 2015 #200

There's this. bvf Oct 2015 #187

All of our speculation means nothing randr Oct 2015 #192

Hugs. Tommymac Oct 2015 #197

I have 10 absentee ballots in the first four states. IA, NH, NV, and SC. Bernie gets all 40 of them. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #204

I noticed nobody is actually saying the article is inaccurate. Just a lot of crying! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #205

Ouch. ucrdem Oct 2015 #206

Bernie won in 1990 because he got almost all the Democratic vote jfern Oct 2015 #207

Does that really say #fuckthebern in your sig line? one_voice Oct 2015 #208

Ain't she somethin'? n/a cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #218

Bernie Sanders Terrifies The NRA With Consensus Plan To Reduce Mass Shootings beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #209

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Oct 2015 #221

Kicking. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #222

K&R GusBob Oct 2015 #223

This thread was super fun the first time, with the original cast and full orchestra but at this Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #226

This lie has been debunked. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #227

What has been debunked? BainsBane Oct 2015 #231

Thom Hartmann debunked the entire premise of the NRA lie about Bernie on his show Monday. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #238

So it would appear you have no evidence to counter any of the points in the article BainsBane Oct 2015 #240

Nope. I will post Thoms debunking. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #241

You don't recall any of the points he raised? BainsBane Oct 2015 #244

some.big.help.that was. nice hashtag to go with the hit and run OP. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #228

If you are going to resort to personal comments, Tuesday Afternoon BainsBane Oct 2015 #229

Nice avatar! What is that green thing and where did you get it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #230

Thanks! BainsBane Oct 2015 #232

Oh, I know! ;) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #233

clearly I no longer give a shit, if I ever did. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #239

One of my favorite Moody Blues songs! Have they appeared in California recently? George II Oct 2015 #269

Meh. At least he's not being accused of breaking federal digital retention laws. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #234

Everyone has their priorities BainsBane Oct 2015 #235

??? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #237

Who is? George II Oct 2015 #270

Still haven't seen this debunked here. I don't listen to radio shows so i would like hrmjustin Oct 2015 #242

I find it odd that no one who did listen to the show BainsBane Oct 2015 #255

But we are being called names like D-Minuses because we asked questions. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #256

Was that about my post too? BainsBane Oct 2015 #257

Well i just saw it got hidden. Not my alert but deserved. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #258

Even if true, I still fully support Bernie. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #243

Bernie voted to ban assault weapons and for background checks in 1994 and 2013. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #250

DU rec... SidDithers Oct 2015 #245

Sounds like the NRA USED Bernie as a political tool. madfloridian Oct 2015 #251

If the NRA did use Bernie moobu2 Oct 2015 #263

And you could say Hillary let Bush use her in his war of aggression against Iraq ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #265

Is this a plea for people to post about Hillary's Benghazi scandal? cui bono Oct 2015 #264

If the NRA is dumb and wants to support him, I won't stop them. Fearless Oct 2015 #266

Just saw this thread. Orrex Oct 2015 #267