2016 Postmortem

jeff47

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47. It's not the same "news wave". It's the same poll.

Reply to INdemo (Reply #33)

Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:53 PM

Oct 2015

Cali_Democrat's making a separate post for every demographic she can take from one poll.

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Very liberal voters prefer Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 OP

Bull shit Fearless Oct 2015 #1

Perfect Bernie Fan Response Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #4

What the fuck? Fearless Oct 2015 #7

when you claim a pollsters results are egregiously wrong, you call into question their competence as Bill USA Oct 2015 #70

Sorry, I'm perfectly in my right to call BS on a pollster Fearless Oct 2015 #90

The truth...it BURNS! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #12

PPP was the most accurate pollster during the 2012 presidential election cycle Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #9

... Fearless Oct 2015 #10

So you also support PPP's findings that very liberal voters prefer Hillary over Bernie? nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #11

I wish that poster would come back and say yes. Otherwise...well, you know randys1 Oct 2015 #59

That poster works for a living mr smarmy Fearless Oct 2015 #91

No Coke The River Oct 2015 #2

Quick, somebody post an online poll to refute this! Metric System Oct 2015 #3

Ha, they got nothing Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #5

How about another poll from the same group? Fearless Oct 2015 #8

LOLZ workinclasszero Oct 2015 #13

Why? The OP's poll is an online poll. jeff47 Oct 2015 #26

There's a difference between a scientific and unscientific online poll. Besides, 80% of respondents Metric System Oct 2015 #30

Interviewed by phone. As in, land lines? Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #31

Yep. This poll is 80% landline, 20% online. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #34

omfg. bunnies Oct 2015 #55

Where are you seeing 80% landline? Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #71

Read the questions in the poll. jeff47 Oct 2015 #79

It's a scientific poll. PPP had the best track record in 2012. What more can I say to someone who Metric System Oct 2015 #35

Im not in charge of figuring out what you should say. Thats your job. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #38

That is taken into account by polling companies. Metric System Oct 2015 #41

Right. As noted elsewhere in this thread, the sample size is 132 people. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #42

The total sample size is 551. Your numbers are off. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #43

Ok, fine. 132 very liberal people, which was what your OP header was about. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #48

You're certainly entitled to your opinion Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #49

I know, it's just a bucket full o tee hees. Honestly, ive assumed from the get go that HRC would Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #54

What makes you think PPP only polled landlines? Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #76

HAHA! Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #39

LOL! Dawgs Oct 2015 #6

That senior poll is what's going to be Sanders down fall bigdarryl Oct 2015 #14

Well, I am only one voter. But I am female and older, and also very liberal. I like Bernie. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2015 #15

So you are part of the 41% of very liberal voters who prefer Bernie! Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #18

Indeed, I am! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2015 #22

Ditto, but just olaint old and not older! n/t Hepburn Oct 2015 #61

HAAAAAAAAAAA montanacowboy Oct 2015 #16

Not according to PPP who was the most accurate pollster in 2012. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #24

lol AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #17

Bwahahaha... 99Forever Oct 2015 #19

This very liberal senior citizen prefers Sanders. So does my very liberal senior citizen wife. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #20

Define "very liberal" for us eh? azurnoir Oct 2015 #21

Here's the polling methodology Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #25

Does not relate to my question by what metric(s) is very liberal defined azurnoir Oct 2015 #36

Great question, here is how I would define VERY liberal: randys1 Oct 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #23

Of the whopping 132 very liberal people polled, 59 supported Clinton. jeff47 Oct 2015 #27

132 "very liberal people" who answered their land lines. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #40

Hey, they could have been in the 20% that responded to a spam email (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #45

Why would liberals support a conservative? Makes no fucking sense. bowens43 Oct 2015 #28

Name recognition + nostalgia for the last time things seemed to go halfway right in the US. nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #37

Hillary Clinton to Millennial college students last month:"thank you for supporting me in '08" Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #44

Are you saying there is little to no difference between HRC and Ted Cruz? randys1 Oct 2015 #64

I do??? daleanime Oct 2015 #29

45% prefer Hillary and 41% prefer Bernie Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #32

This has to be pure bullshit INdemo Oct 2015 #33

It's not the same "news wave". It's the same poll. jeff47 Oct 2015 #47

Not statistically significant jfern Oct 2015 #46

I am very tired bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #50

Do I need to turn in my badge? CanadaexPat Oct 2015 #51

Who defined "very liberal" for that poll? elleng Oct 2015 #52

The person responding to the question. jeff47 Oct 2015 #56

Gotcha. So it means nothing. elleng Oct 2015 #58

Thanks, I was going to ask this MuseRider Oct 2015 #65

PERFECT! elleng Oct 2015 #67

Margin of error in the poll is +/- 4.2% Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #53

No, that's the MOE on all 551 people surveyed. There were only 132 "very liberal" people surveyed jeff47 Oct 2015 #57

Ah, missed that. Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #60

Good point. But a dead heat would still surprise those who enjoy imagining Hortensis Oct 2015 #72

Bwahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha!!!!! darkangel218 Oct 2015 #63

Lots of people think they're very liberal... MellowDem Oct 2015 #66

Jez I thought Bernie had the younger voters by millions! FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #68

Maybe not the younger voters who answer polls on their land line. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #69

61% white, 21% African American, 12% Hispanic polled? Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #73

I have a hunch that the category of 'very liberal' was TransitJohn Oct 2015 #74

But Bernie gets the socialist vote!! DCBob Oct 2015 #75

Any poll not favorable to Bernie redstateblues Oct 2015 #80

how did this poll define liberal DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #77

I have a friend who is not so political but considers herself a liberal kimbutgar Oct 2015 #78

I used to call myself a moderate ibegurpard Oct 2015 #81

All major polling firms use self-identification to determine affiliation Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #82

yes ibegurpard Oct 2015 #88

And who determines what questions to ask and which responses will be classified as Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #89

Great, who gives a fuck? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #83

Surely you'd say the same thing if a poll showed Bernie leading Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #84

What I believe is not affected by poll position. Polls have, do, and will change. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #85

thereby blowing up another lie from the hillarians Doctor_J Oct 2015 #86

Depends On Your Definition Of "Liberal"... Don't It ??? WillyT Oct 2015 #87

Yeah, i noticed that Spirochete Oct 2015 #92

Meth is a horrible drug. Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #93

Very few liberal voters prefer Hillary Clinton's stances over Bernie Sander's stances mhatrw Oct 2015 #94

Which poll are you referencing? nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #95