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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
128. Well...here's the thing...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 10:57 PM
Oct 2015
End immunity for gun manufacturers. Every state holds manufacturers accountable for producing and selling products that cause harm. But in 2005, the Republican-controlled Congress protected gun makers and dealers from most liability when their firearms are used criminally: the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act effectively wiped out gun liability laws in all 50 states. O’Malley will fight to overturn the Act, allowing states and cities to better protect their citizens from negligence, and giving victims of mass shootings the ability to hold irresponsible gun manufacturers and dealers accountable.

https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/preventing-and-reducing-gun-violence/





In 2005:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 - The Republican-controlled Congress delivered a long-sought victory to the gun industry on Thursday when the House voted to shield firearms manufacturers and dealers from liability lawsuits. The bill now goes to President Bush, who has promised to sign it.

The gun liability bill has for years been the No. 1 legislative priority of the National Rifle Association, which has lobbied lawmakers intensely for it. Its final passage, by a vote of 283 to 144, with considerable Democratic support, reflected the changing politics of gun control, an issue many Democrats began shying away from after Al Gore, who promoted it, was defeated in the 2000 presidential race.

"It's a historic piece of legislation," said Wayne LaPierre, the association's chief executive, who said the bill was the most significant victory for the gun lobby since Congress rewrote the federal gun control law in 1986. "As of Oct. 20, the Second Amendment is probably in the best shape in this country that it's been in decades."

*snip*

But opponents called the bill shameful -- "bought and paid for by the N.R.A.," in the words of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts. Representative Chris Van Hollen, Democrat of Maryland, whose constituents include victims of the 2002 sniper shootings in Washington and its suburbs, called the measure "a cruel hoax" on victims of gun violence.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/21/politics/congress-passes-new-legal-shield-for-gun-industry.html



So what he wants to is overturn an existing law...it's very specific.

Apparently the same thing Hillary wants to do. I'd have to dig to see if O'Malley was always in favor of this being repealed--that could take a minute. He did a lot for gun control as Gov...I'd have to search to see if he spoke to this specific issue.

The first debate is a week away, Bernie can call them out on it & all three of them can and should be grilled about specific of all their policies.

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Bull! This is an important issue and needs to be addressed. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #1
Whaddya mean bull? Of course it's an important issue and it is being addressed. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #2
And Hillary and o'Malley are doing the right thing by addressing it. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #4
They're all addressing it though. retrowire Oct 2015 #6
You said they are posturing. I say Hillary and Martin are standing on principle. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #10
Hmmm retrowire Oct 2015 #15
Well you can call it whatever you want but I love her proposal. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #19
Fair enough! Good talk. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #23
go to the link and read what Ben Carson said. No bullet riddled body is reason roguevalley Oct 2015 #90
He is such a horrible person. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #94
He is repulsive. ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #98
No, they are both willing to risk political capital by taking a stand! leftofcool Oct 2015 #3
Risking political capital? retrowire Oct 2015 #5
Hillary risks losing some Dems by calling out the NRA leftofcool Oct 2015 #7
They're all calling out the NRA though. retrowire Oct 2015 #11
the BS is so thick in here I need a shovel. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #29
Yea, gun control is so BS leftofcool Oct 2015 #64
that's not what he's calling BS. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #101
WOW ... That makes my support for Martin O'Malley all the stronger ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #8
Before? n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #9
Yes ... before! ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author retrowire Oct 2015 #20
You mean this one? retrowire Oct 2015 #46
Oh. Okay ... I didn't know you were focusing on that piece of the legislation. ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #95
i think both are impractical retrowire Oct 2015 #103
Hmmm ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #113
They market their product by lobbying congress? retrowire Oct 2015 #116
The gun industry markets to kids LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #131
oh geez... that's terrible! :/ n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #133
THANKS!!! elleng Oct 2015 #111
Yes, they're trying to land blows when the opportunity presents itself. Maedhros Oct 2015 #12
Is the president trying to land blows? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #22
The president isn't a candidate Armstead Oct 2015 #41
The candidates are running for office and are advocating policies. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #45
And they shoukld advicate poilicies. No problem with that Armstead Oct 2015 #52
Sorry but i find it very difficult to believe. If Sanders was out front like this you and the hrmjustin Oct 2015 #55
Saying he's "compromised" is the kind of lie I am referring to Armstead Oct 2015 #70
He voted go protect gun manufacturers and against the brady bill. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #72
If that's your humble opinion you are welcome to it Armstead Oct 2015 #78
It is his record. You guys have no problem criticizing positions Hillary took in the 90's hrmjustin Oct 2015 #80
Would that have changed this? Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #83
Compromised. Good one. Do I even need to start posting HC gun statements? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #120
Good enjoy your superiority complex. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #121
That was tried once before and failed tularetom Oct 2015 #13
At what point are we allowed to get serious about this issue... DCBob Oct 2015 #14
Totally agree. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #17
Amazing isn't it? n/t. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #18
Amazing how many posters on this site have done a 180 on the gun issue because hrmjustin Oct 2015 #27
Indeed. DCBob Oct 2015 #32
The turnaround is just sad and dissappointing. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #33
Oh wait, retrowire Oct 2015 #36
I am saying some posters who were here in during the Newtown Tragedy were very hrmjustin Oct 2015 #39
"They" still are pro gun control, as is Sanders Armstead Oct 2015 #57
Was not talking about you. Plenty of us see what happened here. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #62
How? retrowire Oct 2015 #37
Who says its unproductive?? You, Bernie and the NRA? DCBob Oct 2015 #40
Plenty of changes that could work, yes. retrowire Oct 2015 #42
Those are good... but I think we need even more. DCBob Oct 2015 #47
I agree with all of those great ideas. retrowire Oct 2015 #53
I still think manufacturers bear alot of the responsiblity. DCBob Oct 2015 #54
I don't see how they're responsible for the idiots that use their products. retrowire Oct 2015 #60
Guns are different. They are extremely dangerous devices which only function as weapons. DCBob Oct 2015 #65
We have those laws. retrowire Oct 2015 #68
The laws need to be stiffened. DCBob Oct 2015 #69
Which is what all Democratic candiates are pushing for Armstead Oct 2015 #85
I don't think it will jack_krass Oct 2015 #109
They do Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #86
Hypocracy at it's worst. Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #105
What? retrowire Oct 2015 #107
When it's not used to score political points and misrepresent a candidate who is also.... Armstead Oct 2015 #44
+1 n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #49
^^^^^^ Exactly, both are trying to score political points from the latest tragedy. n/t slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #61
Bernie is welcome to come on board to help the cause. DCBob Oct 2015 #63
He IS on board Armstead Oct 2015 #74
OH, get over it! Gloria Oct 2015 #21
I want to hear both candidates sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #24
I hate to say it, but... 99Forever Oct 2015 #25
Huh? n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #26
Sad response on your point. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #30
Oh please. 99Forever Oct 2015 #43
Wtf are you talking about Obama's shoes for? Is that an attack on him. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #48
What guy doesn't have the courage to do it? retrowire Oct 2015 #50
He does not go as far as Hillary. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #51
Far enough to allow people to sue gun manufacturers? retrowire Oct 2015 #56
I think it is very productive. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #58
How? Please explain how. retrowire Oct 2015 #67
It will make the gun makers want to be a part of the solution. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #71
Don't they already print warning labels saying not to point this gun at someones face? retrowire Oct 2015 #75
Stop making so many guns. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #76
...Ok. retrowire Oct 2015 #81
I don't give two shits if gun makers won't make more money. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #84
well retrowire Oct 2015 #87
We disagree! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #88
That would create a nice black market Armstead Oct 2015 #82
And she doesn't go as far as O'Malley., askew Oct 2015 #89
Good on him. He was a governor and was in a position to do this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #93
Yes his work as governor was excellent regarding this issue. retrowire Oct 2015 #108
Bernie voted against background checks multiple times in the Senate. askew Oct 2015 #126
UPDATE, no need for a source, I did my own research. retrowire Oct 2015 #127
Because promises on the campaign stump, are forgotten after taking office, that's why. 99Forever Oct 2015 #77
Neo liberal? Go sell that on free republic. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #79
Fuck the "free republic." 99Forever Oct 2015 #132
Oh spare us your fake fucking outrage. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #66
Bernie has a great record on gun control as well. retrowire Oct 2015 #73
That's quite a display of anger. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #123
Don't bother. 99Forever Oct 2015 #136
LOL! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #135
How would any of that have prevented the shooting in Oregon? n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #28
Well remember the male toxicity thing I mentioned? retrowire Oct 2015 #34
what ideas do you have that would stop mass gun shootings? Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #35
Do you think that gun control is totally meaningless? DCBob Oct 2015 #38
Background checks would definitely help. Assault weapon ban would cool down the gun market. Hoyt Oct 2015 #31
Yep you get interesting looking Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #91
But the yahoos want the military and militia flavored ones. Banning them will Hoyt Oct 2015 #99
yep Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #100
I don't care if you have a 6 shooter at home, but other than hunting (animals, not people) Hoyt Oct 2015 #104
of course they are ibegurpard Oct 2015 #59
I haven't seen where they're... one_voice Oct 2015 #92
I'll help you out retrowire Oct 2015 #115
Well...here's the thing... one_voice Oct 2015 #128
thanks for the info! n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #130
This message was self-deleted by its author ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #96
Thud! ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #97
Not this poor little Bernie nonsense again. Dawson Leery Oct 2015 #102
Actually. retrowire Oct 2015 #106
BALONEY! elleng Oct 2015 #110
no no no.... O'Malley is great for gun control, I agree BUT retrowire Oct 2015 #117
Gotcha. We can discuss. elleng Oct 2015 #122
Hmmm retrowire Oct 2015 #124
Doesn't anyone care about the companies? Students and kids are getting killed, not gun companies. FSogol Oct 2015 #142
Except that O'Malley fought the NRA and won in Maryland. He has a record FSogol Oct 2015 #112
That's not what I'm talking about. Read the OP. retrowire Oct 2015 #119
You are cherry picking from a whole slew of proposed changes to reach the conclusion you want. FSogol Oct 2015 #137
I'm not really going out of my way here retrowire Oct 2015 #139
I agree with you about manufacturer liability, BUT... Jim Lane Oct 2015 #114
Here ya go. retrowire Oct 2015 #118
Bernie is correct. delrem Oct 2015 #125
Welcome to the big leagues Bernie! ChimpersMcSmirkers Oct 2015 #129
I really detest that phrase - in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #134
totally agree retrowire Oct 2015 #138
and in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #140
totally agree again, yeah it's a double edged sword retrowire Oct 2015 #141
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