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Dont call me Shirley

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241. Nope. I will post Thoms debunking.

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"How the National Rifle Association helped get Bernie Sanders elected" [View all] BainsBane Oct 2015 OP

This is an excellent article. I am waiting to see how Sanders explains this in a debate. leftofcool Oct 2015 #1

Oh yeah Bernie workinclasszero Oct 2015 #22

You're really going to blame Bernie for gun deaths? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #62

A hell of a lot more Americans... bobclark86 Oct 2015 #71

And how is Bernie responsible for those deaths? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #72

How many gun control bills has he voted against? bobclark86 Oct 2015 #75

You tell me. Start with his last vote re: banning assault weapons and background checks. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

LOL-- This HELPS Bernie with those on the right, rural types, Independents. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #148

The NRA hated Bernie after he voted to ban assault weapons in 1994. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #161

Oh those pesky facts again workinclasszero Oct 2015 #79

You didn't answer my question about dead Iraqis and American soldiers. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #80

The answer is right in the OP, he was going to represent the citizens of Vermont, A Simple Game Oct 2015 #106

And ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #219

Hm, so only American lives matter to you? cui bono Oct 2015 #262

He did say his name was 'zero'. Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #122

I read the article and found nothing that needs "explaining". HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #45

Explains what? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #60

I am waiting to see how Sanders explains this in a debate. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #135

Me too. ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #156

Jarhead Aerows Oct 2015 #220

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #2

This must account for Bernie's "D-" NRA rating? 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #3

Exploitation of last week's tragedy, part two. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #9

I agree. Stay classy OP. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2015 #259

Did you actually read the article? BainsBane Oct 2015 #236

1990 passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #246

Especially since he voted to ban assault weapons and for background checks in 1994. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #247

I disagree they aren't relevant BainsBane Oct 2015 #254

see my post on this issue of mfg responsibility passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #260

Posts like yours defending gun makers BainsBane Oct 2015 #261

Bernie's record and stances on gun control ibegurpard Oct 2015 #4

Already posted when it was news - twice: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #5

He will be asked about this in a debate. Hope he has a good answer. leftofcool Oct 2015 #8

For what? He did nothing wrong. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #10

CNN will ask him about it regardless. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #17

He always is prepared, it's Hillary that needs to work on her debating skills. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #19

Of course they will. CNN needs SOMEthing to talk about besides income inequality, TPP & climate change. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #118

Voting against the Brady Bill was a GOOD thing? n/t bobclark86 Oct 2015 #73

He voted against it because he thought background checks should be done by the state. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

Ahh, the "state's rights" argument. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #81

He was voting in the best interest of Vermonters. Explain Bernie's last vote re: background checks beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #82

A flip-flopper going left for a primary. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #84

That vote was in 2013. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #86

Hurr, youre so funnie!!!! bobclark86 Oct 2015 #104

You mean the 206 bills Bernie sponsored/cosponsored that were signed into law? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #107

NOT co-sponsored. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #124

bob said: "please point to the bills he's proposed that actually became law" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #129

You don't know what "proposed" means... bobclark86 Oct 2015 #163

Definition of "propose": put forward (an idea or plan) for consideration or discussion by others beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #166

Not as a sponsor, he wasn't. bobclark86 Oct 2015 #167

So his name was on the bills, then? Good! Glad we've got that cleared up, bob! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #168

Hillary was in favour of letting cities and states determine local gun laws: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #87

Well done! Go Vols Oct 2015 #224

Thank you, neighbor! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #225

Well done! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #89

You do realize bob just got caught making shit up, justin, right? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #93

He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #98

Then explain why he voted for a ban on assault weapons in 1994, justin. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #101

He didn't get every vote wrong. He got it right sometimes on guns. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #105

You just said he only voted to ban them in 2013 because he knew he was running in 2013. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #108

I never said that. I said well done. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #112

hrmjustin: "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #116

My answered below. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #141

Did you admit you were making shit up about why he voted for a ban? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #145

Can't stop can you! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #154

hrmjustin: "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #155

He is not the only one in favor of state's rights concerning gun control Mnpaul Oct 2015 #217

Okay, here's the answer Roy Rolling Oct 2015 #85

Thank you. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #88

Are you kidding me? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #94

Yup. iandhr Oct 2015 #134

Lol. I didn't think the Mets woulc get this far. Good luck tomorrow! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #138

Thanks iandhr Oct 2015 #160

Hey wait a minute Gothmog Oct 2015 #171

Lol and i wish the best of luck to your team as well. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #173

One of my favorite playoff series was Mets/Astros in 1986 George II Oct 2015 #268

He will give a good answer, because he is not a malefactor, Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #130

hillary will be asked about the iraq war restorefreedom Oct 2015 #196

When you only have three pairs of pants you gotta rotate those suckers Autumn Oct 2015 #15

I think of it like a compost pile, they have to keep churning it. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #18

I think that is a cheap sexist shot at Hillary Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #61

What are you on about? Did Hillary repost the op for the third time on DU? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #63

Got the three did ya? Autumn Oct 2015 #149

Math is hard for some people. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #152

Math and facts are hard for some people. Autumn Oct 2015 #158

Like people who claim they never heard this story but posted in a thread about it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #164

Missed the reference Tommy2Tone Oct 2015 #201

Fair enough. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #202

That wasn't a shot at Hillary. Hillary wears pantsuits, nice pantsuits, not pants Autumn Oct 2015 #195

That is a bit low. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #69

Did Hillary post the OP? FWIW I didn't say pantsuits, and I am on record that Autumn Oct 2015 #143

Figures you can't see how low it was. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #147

I see a lot of low stuff just not in my fellow DUers, Autumn Oct 2015 #153

I'm a strong Bernie supporter, but may I suggest that you remove your post. Needs some JDPriestly Oct 2015 #103

if I were talking about Hillary, I would have made it clear I was talking about Hillary. Autumn Oct 2015 #180

why? there is absolutely nothing wrong with that post. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #182

Did not know this. I liked what I saw from Hillary's proposals today. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #6

Oh please ibegurpard Oct 2015 #11

Trying to figure out how to respond to your issue so I will just say.. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #13

you and your friends have been pushing this for months ibegurpard Oct 2015 #20

Calling me a liar? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #21

Fishing for an alertable response? Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #29

The poster addressed me. I didn't search this poster out. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #32

Are you calling him a liar? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #35

I asked first. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #37

You did post in this thread from July: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #41

I will be honest and say i really did not remember this story. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #43

Sure, whatever you say justin. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #95

Yeah it is what I said. I am not a liar. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #100

mmm hmmmm beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #102

Keep going but be aware I don't care what you think of me. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #109

It's a good thing because you were less than honest upthread. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #114

I never said only. Stop making things up. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #115

hrmjustin: "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #117

You said hrmjustin Oct 2015 #119

Oh dear, did someone hack your account and type those words? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #123

You said... hrmjustin Oct 2015 #127

You said hrmjustin Oct 2015 #128

You said "Well done!" when bob made the mistake of claiming Bernie flip flopped before the primary. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #133

You say he failed, not me. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #137

And you high-fived him and repeated his answer to me. Or did someone else type that? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #139

Lol. Keep going all night if you need to. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #140

No, I think I proved my point. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #142

Then stop and it won't smell anymore. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #146

That would be your friend bob and looks you got some on you too: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #151

I replied above to you. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #121

So you didn't type the words "He knew he was going to run he was considering running in 2013"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #125

I'm not going to say... ibegurpard Oct 2015 #54

I know nothing! neverforget Oct 2015 #64

Oooohhh, Justin. azmom Oct 2015 #67

ha!! ya mean you were gonna pick Bernie??? ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wendylaroux Oct 2015 #50

Can not say i feel the same about you. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #52

that's alright, wendylaroux Oct 2015 #55

And Sanders has my vote if he wins the primary. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #56

Rinse and repeat deadlinetony Oct 2015 #7

Welcome to DU, exactly rinse and repeat! n/t slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #170

For heaven's sake, HillsHouse Aerows Oct 2015 #12

I hope everybody reads the entire article HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #14

Horseshit like this make me regret having Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #16

Why go after the Republicans when you can attack pro-gun control Dem candidates? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #23

You regret posting your link because some anonymous poster on a message board Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #24

Yes. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #26

What was fabricated in the op? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #40

Either a) they googled and posted the first article they found beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

Yes? So you regret posting the article because somebody on the interwebz made you angry... Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #53

no it is more like what the fuck is wrong with Clinton supporters here on the DU community. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #181

You owe me a keyboard! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #194

How is this a ridiculous smear? iandhr Oct 2015 #120

The circular logic is truly a thing to behold , isn't it? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #30

What's logical about bringing up his NRA rating and then claiming you don't care about it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #51

Lordy lu, hifiguy Oct 2015 #25

Swiftboating - ur doin it wrong beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #39

How dare you post anything that shows Sanders in a bad light! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #27

Indeed! Only OP's pointing out the non-perfection of other candidates is permitted! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #31

And they call us sensitive. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #34

As the OP merely reports, Sanders does not have an F rating from the NRA for a reason. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #36

What grade does he have and why, Fred? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47

Ratings from ISIS and ratings from the NRA are equally nothing I would care about. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #48

Then why did you bring it up? Did you have a point? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #49

This is the first I've heard of this..... frylock Oct 2015 #65

Ok. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #66

lol ibegurpard Oct 2015 #111

You know that's not what Bernie supporters complaint about this is. Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #199

Do you dispute the accuracy of this article? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #203

good luck with that Doctor_J Oct 2015 #28

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #33

this (false) perception of NRA support will actually help him in the general n/t zazen Oct 2015 #38

Sanders has demonstrably given partial support to NRA positions, when ZERO is the correct amount. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #58

And I will do my very best to get Bernie Sanders elected this time. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #42

Thank you for opening my eyes and changing my mind whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #44

Sanders supporters are generally not single-issue voters. Are you? -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #126

nope whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #132

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #57

The Gloat before the Debate silenttigersong Oct 2015 #59

Is anyone here claiming the article is getting facts wrong? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #68

No. leftofcool Oct 2015 #91

And that is interesting. They can dish it out but can't handle criticism or seeing their candidate hrmjustin Oct 2015 #97

NOPE uponit7771 Oct 2015 #211

Just a lot of people who can dish it out but can't take it. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #212

Oh look, Clinton drones attacking Bernie on guns. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #70

HillsHouse lives for this. n/t Aerows Oct 2015 #76

Wow! Don't like criticism of your candidate? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #83

Obviously ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #162

Meet kettle. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #172

Several? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #175

As in more than one, yes. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #176

I was flagged once and had one five hide vacation so yes it is plural. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #178

So why are you throwing stones at Bernie's supporters from your glass house? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #179

My point still stands. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #183

Your point is an amputee because you are guilty of the same thing. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #184

My point still stand and is correct. All of you comments can not changed that. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #188

You still owe me a new irony meter. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #189

Not at all, one person told me recently that Sanders can throw stones.... really, this was typed and uponit7771 Oct 2015 #210

Have you rec'd the thread showing Bernie's proposals yet? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #213

No, I don't trust him on the issues of guns seeing his support for corporations that make them uponit7771 Oct 2015 #214

So you don't care where the candidates stand. Good to know that the issue isn't that important. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #215

Yeah i just don't trust Sanders on the gun issue either. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #216

So, you believe that the company that makes Hummers passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #252

How SATAN really helped get Sanders elected Armstead Oct 2015 #78

NRA spelled backward is BERNIE SANDERS. Duh. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #92

If Hillary wants to be the gun-control candidate, let her. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #90

NRA was not always evil FreedomRain Oct 2015 #96

Is Sanders owned by the NRA? Hoyt Oct 2015 #99

Just Asking Questions..... frylock Oct 2015 #191

This message was self-deleted by its author ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #248

I like that! :) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #249

Idiots will suffice. frylock Oct 2015 #253

I posted this article in the Sanders forum. iandhr Oct 2015 #110

Bash, bash, bash ... Scuba Oct 2015 #113

I didn't read all the posts TeddyR Oct 2015 #131

As pointed out many times, voting records are open for public to see, even Bernie points out several Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #136

If so then good, they helped one of the very finest representitives of our times. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #144

My reaction to this bushel of schlopp tkmorris Oct 2015 #150

Shame on you for posting this steaming pile of Logical Fallacy. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #157

And now THAT is making the NRA sweat! benld74 Oct 2015 #159

Huge UNREC for this shit. 840high Oct 2015 #165

Great article Gothmog Oct 2015 #169

And you could have read the article back in July when it was first published and posted ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #174

Wow. Just WOW. concreteblue Oct 2015 #177

Amazin' ain't it? hifiguy Oct 2015 #190

Gotta say this: you don't give up! truebluegreen Oct 2015 #185

Well. Yosemite Sam never gave up hifiguy Oct 2015 #193

You really hate Berni Sanders that much... demmiblue Oct 2015 #186

Wow. I didn't even notice the #fuckthebern in her sig line. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #198

Can you even imagine the hissy fit if a Sanders or O'Malley supporter did the equivalent?! demmiblue Oct 2015 #200

There's this. bvf Oct 2015 #187

All of our speculation means nothing randr Oct 2015 #192

Hugs. Tommymac Oct 2015 #197

I have 10 absentee ballots in the first four states. IA, NH, NV, and SC. Bernie gets all 40 of them. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #204

I noticed nobody is actually saying the article is inaccurate. Just a lot of crying! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #205

Ouch. ucrdem Oct 2015 #206

Bernie won in 1990 because he got almost all the Democratic vote jfern Oct 2015 #207

Does that really say #fuckthebern in your sig line? one_voice Oct 2015 #208

Ain't she somethin'? n/a cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #218

Bernie Sanders Terrifies The NRA With Consensus Plan To Reduce Mass Shootings beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #209

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Oct 2015 #221

Kicking. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #222

K&R GusBob Oct 2015 #223

This thread was super fun the first time, with the original cast and full orchestra but at this Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #226

This lie has been debunked. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #227

What has been debunked? BainsBane Oct 2015 #231

Thom Hartmann debunked the entire premise of the NRA lie about Bernie on his show Monday. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #238

So it would appear you have no evidence to counter any of the points in the article BainsBane Oct 2015 #240

Nope. I will post Thoms debunking. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #241

You don't recall any of the points he raised? BainsBane Oct 2015 #244

some.big.help.that was. nice hashtag to go with the hit and run OP. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #228

If you are going to resort to personal comments, Tuesday Afternoon BainsBane Oct 2015 #229

Nice avatar! What is that green thing and where did you get it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #230

Thanks! BainsBane Oct 2015 #232

Oh, I know! ;) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #233

clearly I no longer give a shit, if I ever did. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #239

One of my favorite Moody Blues songs! Have they appeared in California recently? George II Oct 2015 #269

Meh. At least he's not being accused of breaking federal digital retention laws. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #234

Everyone has their priorities BainsBane Oct 2015 #235

??? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #237

Who is? George II Oct 2015 #270

Still haven't seen this debunked here. I don't listen to radio shows so i would like hrmjustin Oct 2015 #242

I find it odd that no one who did listen to the show BainsBane Oct 2015 #255

But we are being called names like D-Minuses because we asked questions. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #256

Was that about my post too? BainsBane Oct 2015 #257

Well i just saw it got hidden. Not my alert but deserved. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #258

Even if true, I still fully support Bernie. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #243

Bernie voted to ban assault weapons and for background checks in 1994 and 2013. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #250

DU rec... SidDithers Oct 2015 #245

Sounds like the NRA USED Bernie as a political tool. madfloridian Oct 2015 #251

If the NRA did use Bernie moobu2 Oct 2015 #263

And you could say Hillary let Bush use her in his war of aggression against Iraq ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #265

Is this a plea for people to post about Hillary's Benghazi scandal? cui bono Oct 2015 #264

If the NRA is dumb and wants to support him, I won't stop them. Fearless Oct 2015 #266

Just saw this thread. Orrex Oct 2015 #267