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Scootaloo

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24. "Many people," "They," "Some people"

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How come many of the same people who said we needed Sanders in the race [View all] pnwmom Oct 2015 OP

By magically transforming overnight, she has utterly destroyed her credibility, possibly irrevocably reformist2 Oct 2015 #1

It hasn't been overnight. She's always had a liberal record. pnwmom Oct 2015 #2

And what about the Keystone Pipeline? I could never, ever understand her not coming out immediately DebJ Oct 2015 #26

She was working on far bigger issues. Take a look at a Hortensis Oct 2015 #89

It was going to run right through Native American Sovereign territory. DebJ Oct 2015 #90

Yeah, but the thing about the TPP is that Clinton PatrickforO Oct 2015 #40

Can't add a word. hifiguy Oct 2015 #81

No. she has always had a neo-liberal record. Agony Oct 2015 #48

So, supporting expanding H-1b *indentured servant* "guest worker" program is "liberal"? cascadiance Oct 2015 #52

She has morphed into a Democratic Socialist AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #68

Liberal Hardly - HRC Started Life As A Republican cantbeserious Oct 2015 #84

I've not yet been able to discern any "move to the left" tularetom Oct 2015 #3

Who are all these people you're referring to? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #4

The ones accusing her of flipflopping, for example. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #7

No. Who was thinking we needed Sanders to pull Clinton left? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #9

Right. And get hidden. No, thanks. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #10

You don't get hidden for mentioning DUers positions, just attacking them Fearless Oct 2015 #16

You ought to support your claims somehow Scootaloo Oct 2015 #18

Well, I thought that. Elevating the dialog is a really good thing, and PatrickforO Oct 2015 #41

I don't think anyone is "upset" about it. n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #5

Me neither. nt cyberswede Oct 2015 #17

We need Sanders in the race because we need him to be President. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #6

I'm so glad Bernie's doing such a terrific job getting oasis Oct 2015 #8

She's "moving left" for appearances only... it's politically expedient. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #11

Hillary doesn't blink without polling how often she should do so Fumesucker Oct 2015 #12

Do you believe that she woke up the other day artislife Oct 2015 #13

Well, she did it in 2008. We voted for Obama anyway Scootaloo Oct 2015 #19

I don't know anyone who wanted Sanders in the race to 'move Hillary to the Left'. There were sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #14

When Bernie was only considering running, many were claiming that he'd move her to the left. pnwmom Oct 2015 #20

"Many people," "They," "Some people" Scootaloo Oct 2015 #24

Actually it was DC insiders zalinda Oct 2015 #29

No, DC insiders felt that she was in a similar position to an incumbent, pnwmom Oct 2015 #30

They didn't take Sanders running seriously. zalinda Oct 2015 #39

Bernie is REAL . Hillary is NOT.. Simple.. pangaia Oct 2015 #57

I did. stone space Oct 2015 #61

She isn't moving to the left, she's pandering to the left. Fearless Oct 2015 #15

...^ that 840high Oct 2015 #38

^^^^this^^^^. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #54

+3 davidpdx Oct 2015 #63

+1000000 azmom Oct 2015 #85

I'm not upset. I think it's Hillaryous! (nt) Ino Oct 2015 #21

Calling changing support for trade deals depending on what's in the final deal "flip-flopping" betsuni Oct 2015 #22

You're right. The purists will feel betrayed by a President Sanders because pnwmom Oct 2015 #27

Wrong. We accept compromise so long as it starts with our side winning and we don't give away the Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #32

"We accept compromise as long as it starts with our side winning" pnwmom Oct 2015 #46

That's how you come to a compromise, both sides start with a complete win and work toward center Fumesucker Oct 2015 #49

Obama did all the compromising AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #74

Obama moved things forward. The Republicans hate Obamacare and they hated pnwmom Oct 2015 #75

Yeah, we got lots of right wing crap AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #76

It passed with the key vote of an Independent, as I said. pnwmom Oct 2015 #77

The GOP does not compromise AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #78

And anyone who makes no deals will accomplish nothing, unless we have pnwmom Oct 2015 #80

I want him to be president and take the country to the left...or... Armstead Oct 2015 #23

I don't know anyone who wanted Bernie in the race to move Hillary to the left. Autumn Oct 2015 #25

When at the start, we weren't sure he would get such huge support and be a serious contender, brewens Oct 2015 #28

Yes, that was the excuse for letting Bernie get away with not declaring as a Dem. ucrdem Oct 2015 #31

Bernie has been nothing if not gracious in this campaign. He has not sought to make any other Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #33

My perceptions were a little different. ucrdem Oct 2015 #34

I think Bernie being independent when the party is corrupted by neo-liberal leadership is proper... cascadiance Oct 2015 #56

Who was saying that? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #35

Not sure where that bullshit meme started, but whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #36

Sorry, but I don't want another war. cpompilo Oct 2015 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author TDale313 Oct 2015 #42

I never said we needed to have her move to the left jfern Oct 2015 #43

I don't think it was DU Bernie supporters who thought Hillary would ACTUALLY move djean111 Oct 2015 #44

"Yeah what Bernie said" is not a move to the left it is lip service nothing more YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #45

I'm glad she's moving to the left, but is this a "Romney" move? Vinca Oct 2015 #47

Her conversion is not believable. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #50

So wait, whispering sweet nothings that she'll bail on after the primary counts as movement? Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #51

It would work smoother if she hadn't disavowed the left just weeks ago HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #53

because sanders is in to win restorefreedom Oct 2015 #55

No, that's not what we said was supposed to happen. Scuba Oct 2015 #58

There's a diffference between moving left... tk2kewl Oct 2015 #59

Because a lot of those people never expected Sanders to be viable. Chan790 Oct 2015 #60

Bernie isn't viable nationally workinclasszero Oct 2015 #62

oh wait.. DianeK Oct 2015 #65

Which states are a win for Clinton and a loss for Sanders in the GE? frylock Oct 2015 #88

All the ones Kerry lost in 04 including Ohio... please research who didn't vote for Kerry in 04 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #92

All the southern states /nt workinclasszero Oct 2015 #95

Clinton wins all the southern states? frylock Oct 2015 #96

Easy peasy workinclasszero Oct 2015 #97

Yeah, I think we've been through this.. frylock Oct 2015 #98

I have taken to calling Mrs. Clinton.. DianeK Oct 2015 #64

There are more patches on that campaign hifiguy Oct 2015 #82

I don't think there were many. LWolf Oct 2015 #66

Really. Every Sanders supporter that I know said we needed Sanders in the race to win Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #67

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #69

Because they lied? /nt workinclasszero Oct 2015 #70

Mostly Clinton supporters and neutral folks talking that stuff. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #71

No. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #72

She too easily abandons her positions AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #73

We needed Sanders because MuseRider Oct 2015 #79

What a chickenshit hide that was on Aging American. hifiguy Oct 2015 #83

Respectfully disagree. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #86

Some who were already squirming from the multiple lacerations edgineered Oct 2015 #91

The authenticity factor? Sincerity, convictions...that sort of thing... senz Oct 2015 #87

Sanders should work on those things since he's "evolved" during this campaign also.... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #93

Not me. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #94