2016 Postmortem

WorseBeforeBetter

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101. Listen, Steve, it's abundantly clear that you think you know all,

Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:08 AM

Oct 2015

but you don't. Come down to my place of employment and listen to these people. Folks are FED UP. White, black, male, female, Latino, 20s-70s, no college, college degrees, all political stripes, etc. Many in their 40s and 50s are realizing they may never be able to fully retire. They're terrified about Social Security being handed over to greedy Wall Street mutherfuckers, and the Medicare age being raised to 67 or older. Republicans just voted to privatize Medicaid in NC, and they've started to connect the privatization dots (former DHHS workers will lose decent state jobs to work in some dystopian call center at $10/hr with shit benefits). The reality of the past three decades is setting in, and they are very receptive to learning about one Mr. Bernard Sanders. They DESPISE Hillary, and Bernie may just get through to them.

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Bernie Sanders: Don�t be shocked if my message resonates with Republicans [View all] Uncle Joe Oct 2015 OP

Yes, and look at all TM99 Oct 2015 #1

I just wish he could be a dictator for one year! yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #5

Sarcasm does not suit you. TM99 Oct 2015 #10

I guess you like not getting any thing done. Not shocked. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #11

I would rather have a stale mate TM99 Oct 2015 #12

Amen! to that. Divernan Oct 2015 #19

I am talking Bernie sanders here. Not Donald trump. Just want to make that clear. Haha. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #23

She said the other day she is ready to reach out to republicans on hour one Autumn Oct 2015 #72

I think we're on the same page DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #78

Republicans agree with Bernie, he's not pandering. Democrats aren't the only people who Autumn Oct 2015 #81

Thanks, Autumn. I feel the same way. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #84

Republicans never compromise, ever AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #112

We are the ones who get burned by their compromises. Autumn Oct 2015 #132

I saw that & it disgusted me as well. TM99 Oct 2015 #117

So feeling good is the priority? tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #121

You mean the good feeling I will get from TM99 Oct 2015 #129

What did Obama 'get done' with GOP cooperation? AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #13

WORD. In search of his "grand bargain," Obama had horrendous ideas, SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #20

...and Sanders will do better how? People marching? cause the GOP cares about what people think? tia uponit7771 Oct 2015 #122

We have a better chance of Sanders simply saying no TM99 Oct 2015 #130

Sadly you don't understand at all. Getting nothing done would be an improvement in the status quo. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #47

this is a very confusing statement. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #94

It's very simple. People have been losing their homes, jobs and retirements. College rhett o rick Oct 2015 #105

What other candidate would be in a better position to get things done if elected POTUS? cui bono Oct 2015 #87

One that isn't indicating unicorns will appear in congress and magically make the GOP put .... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #123

Then you should vote for Bernie because the Congress will most certainly not change Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #144

Hillary isn't promising unicorns !!! She actually is saying what she could do with executive power uponit7771 Oct 2015 #146

If Bernie follows Hillary that will be the first time as she has made habit of following him or Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #149

Because Hillary is promising more of the same, she's a corporatist ffs. cui bono Oct 2015 #154

Please give us more of the status quo relative to Obama. People with descerning eyes to see & ears uponit7771 Oct 2015 #155

Which candidate is doing that? cui bono Oct 2015 #153

Not Hillary uponit7771 Oct 2015 #156

dangerous thinking bigtree Oct 2015 #80

You just hate Bernie. Expected. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #90

more nonsense bigtree Oct 2015 #119

Can't like everything. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #135

Everyone keeps racing to meet him and/or hear him speak. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #27

Good catch. Thanks. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #33

Hey now, to be fair Aerows Oct 2015 #38

Well, I do see one black lady. nt Stellar Oct 2015 #40

Here is another Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #41

This nonsense, The GOP are rep by the Tea party lewebley3 Oct 2015 #138

rec Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #2

Nail meet hammer! Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #36

+1 HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #3

He is so great at explaining the real issues, thanks for this excellent article. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #4

Without the slogans and buzz-words, many republicans find they're more librul than they thought arcane1 Oct 2015 #6

So true. hifiguy Oct 2015 #9

Yes, I want his message to resonate with as many people as possible. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #16

If Bernie told a lie his tongue would fall off. eom SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #21

his ideas work for real people restorefreedom Oct 2015 #7

He's right. hifiguy Oct 2015 #8

Recommend....... KoKo Oct 2015 #14

Bingo Stryder Oct 2015 #15

Republicans like the idea of entrepreneurship, and these activities can flourish under Ron Green Oct 2015 #17

They recognize they are being azmom Oct 2015 #18

Transitional candidate kenfrequed Oct 2015 #22

Thanks. Very interesting analysis. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #34

Bernie's campaign will be transitional - no matter how it comes out! LongTomH Oct 2015 #147

I won't be shocked in the least because William769 Oct 2015 #24

Here's another quote for you... Ino Oct 2015 #25

And? William769 Oct 2015 #26

No. Clinton already appointed Greenspan to the FED where Greenspan merrily ruined our economy JDPriestly Oct 2015 #35

Ronald Reagan appointed Greenspan. George II Oct 2015 #85

Clinton reappointed him. Clinton did not have to and should not have. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #111

Chairmen of the Federal Reserve are rarely, if ever, not reappointed regardless of who.... George II Oct 2015 #131

And Greenspan should have been the exception to that rule. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #140

His co-president is running... Ino Oct 2015 #56

I'd like to see the original source, please. Google can't find this before calendar year 2015. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #37

Hey, webmaster. Link or slink. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #57

Here is a link with a good list of Bernie's anti-Democratic party rants stevenleser Oct 2015 #70

Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #74

I just read through the whole thing, Bills quote is in there. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #73

LOL. I see below that his crack editor has made an appearance. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #93

And still we prove our points with facts, just like the above Bernie quote. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #99

I'm not too thrilled with the Democratic Party right now, WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #110

Maybe you should wake up to the fact of independent voters cprise Oct 2015 #115

??? ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #107

&&& WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #109

Why would anyone be "shocked" ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #76

William. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #91

Exactly Android3.14 Oct 2015 #28

This Bernie man is on Fire!!! dae Oct 2015 #29

Bernie appeals to AMERICANS, not Democrats and Republicans! Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #30

. libodem Oct 2015 #31

K & R! SoapBox Oct 2015 #32

I wouldn't be shocked...I've been cursed out by one of them already Stellar Oct 2015 #39

He's more like a libertarian than a liberal so I wouldn't be surprised moobu2 Oct 2015 #42

Hillary is more like a Republican on so many issues, I'm surprised they don't support her. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #44

Bernie Sanders isn't even a Democrat. moobu2 Oct 2015 #77

That is so yesterday. nt Bohunk68 Oct 2015 #126

Did the Party say he isn't running as a Democratic Party candidate? Last I looked sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #137

He's not a Democrat is my point. moobu2 Oct 2015 #141

Not according to this USA Day poll. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #45

Wow, that's deluded. n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #116

+1, including the immigration stance... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #124

Yes, absolutely. In RL people are not that divided at all on the issues. We've been lied to for so sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #43

I would be concerned if alot of Republicans agreed with me. DCBob Oct 2015 #46

So if the Republicans agreed with you that water was wet, this would concern you? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #48

I would be suspicious. DCBob Oct 2015 #52

If the case of agreement regarding "water being wet," paranoia might be a better description Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #55

If I were a politician I would be paranoid anytime Republicans got cozy with me. DCBob Oct 2015 #59

You do know that at one time there were some decent Republicans? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #61

Yeah.. I suppose. But now they are mostly dangerous lunatics. DCBob Oct 2015 #65

For everything there is a season, a season of personalities and a season of issues. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #68

She will be fine.. she knows exactly what to expect. DCBob Oct 2015 #69

Knowing what to expect and being able to do anything about it are two different things. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #71

It resonates because they'd rather run againt Bernie than Hillary. n/t OhZone Oct 2015 #49

If that's the case one should be careful what they wish for. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #51

True! I love Bernie, but anyone but a Republican! :) n/t OhZone Oct 2015 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #66

Bernie!! AzDar Oct 2015 #50

He should appeal to everyone wendylaroux Oct 2015 #53

Bernie is building a new coalition for the win. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #54

Thank you, Atomic Kitten. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #58

Sanders Republicans, much better than fracking Reagan Democrats Agony Oct 2015 #60

I couldn't agree more, Agony. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #62

Sanders has been supported by majority of voters in a block drawn from both parties for years. TeamPooka Oct 2015 #64

And it will be very interesting to see the election results from open primary states... mak3cats Oct 2015 #67

I won't. No worries. nt ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #75

wishful thinking bigtree Oct 2015 #79

It all boils down to whether the people want an election based on the issues or personalities. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #83

"If they don't completely renounce their republicanism, they can go to hell." cui bono Oct 2015 #89

Boom! sheshe2 Oct 2015 #100

This is laughable and I will make it very easy to understand why. stevenleser Oct 2015 #82

Here's one example regarding your Social Conservative. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #86

I do not want sermons! sheshe2 Oct 2015 #113

Then you would never have voted for Martin Luther King for President and you probably hated Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #136

You must be laughing a lot then cui bono Oct 2015 #88

I am laughing and no it's not happening. You've been fooled into thinking it is. stevenleser Oct 2015 #97

Your problem is you think all the Republicans have a teabagger mentality. cui bono Oct 2015 #102

No, I listed the kinds of things different conservatives believe and I asked you a simple question. stevenleser Oct 2015 #104

There are plenty of Republicans who think the banksters need to be reined in, cui bono Oct 2015 #114

Apparently my post #86 proves otherwise, you never addressed that? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #152

You needn't tell us to think. We're not your fox audience. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #106

The types of Republicans who fully realize they've been trickled down on. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #92

None of that is new, they won't suddenly vote for Sanders or any other Democrafic stevenleser Oct 2015 #95

Listen, Steve, it's abundantly clear that you think you know all, WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #101

No, what is abundantly clear is that you have abandoned logic for adoration of your candidate. stevenleser Oct 2015 #103

I stopped reading at "adoration." (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #108

In 2008, 10% of Republicans voted for Obama over McCain. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #118

+1 for your "Reply title" cui bono Oct 2015 #151

the blue collar republicans I know are not fucking laughing Agony Oct 2015 #96

See my #97 nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #98

as you said in 08... Agony Oct 2015 #150

See this post and the op under which it lives. ;-) stevenleser Oct 2015 #158

Teabaggers who decide that they hate banksters more than they hate immigrants n/t eridani Oct 2015 #120

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #125

Why would anyone be "shocked"? stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #127

KICK. Segami Oct 2015 #128

Not shocked at all. Lisa D Oct 2015 #133

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #134

I thought olive branches and common ground with conservatives was bad, "third way," "triangulation?" kjones Oct 2015 #139

There is a major distinction between finding common ground among the people versus Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #142

Yes, there is...hence my use of the phrase "common ground" over "capitulation" kjones Oct 2015 #145

I agree with some of what President Obama has done and I recognize the deck stacked against him Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #148

What a great post kjones!! redstateblues Oct 2015 #157

Bernie's message is his selling point. UCmeNdc Oct 2015 #143