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beam me up scottie

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73. And you keep digging... Didn't you do the same thing when you accused a woman of mansplaining?

Sun Oct 11, 2015, 04:32 PM

Oct 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027120820#post21

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Bernie Sanders� critics misfire: The Vermont senator�s gun record is better than it looks [View all] magical thyme Oct 2015 OP

K&R Time_Lord Oct 2015 #1

Oh, it'll be recycled. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #3

Kickety rec nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2

and a Reckity kick Hiraeth Oct 2015 #96

Some of them even resorted to lying about this. In an OP, no less. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #4

So true Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #5

So, he voted against the Brady Bill for the rights of sportsmen? leftofcool Oct 2015 #6

And Hillary voted for the Iraq war. zalinda Oct 2015 #9

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #13

When you count all the murders and suicides in this country over the past several years, shenmue Oct 2015 #41

Murder is murder. zalinda Oct 2015 #48

Oh, so innocent Iraqi civilians don't count as people who died??? cui bono Oct 2015 #109

And he voted to protect gun manufacturers. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #10

His vote was consistent with our law on other products. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #36

Well i think he got it wrong. Sorry but the gun issue is not a distraction. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #38

He supports a lot of what people love to call "common sense gun control" DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #86

I am glad you are happy with your candidate. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #87

and I am happy you are glad. Hiraeth Oct 2015 #97

Glad we are all glad. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #99

me too, about time Hiraeth Oct 2015 #100

Are knife manufacturers sued when moondust Oct 2015 #59

You can see his vote as a good thing if you want. I don't! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #60

Not saying it's a good thing. moondust Oct 2015 #62

No but i would not protect them from lawsuits. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #63

Then you would also not protect moondust Oct 2015 #66

I am talking about the gun industry. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #69

And I'm talking about manufacturers in general. moondust Oct 2015 #71

No such bills made it to Congress. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #75

? moondust Oct 2015 #82

The product must be unreasonably dangerous. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #85

Dunno. moondust Oct 2015 #90

I agree with you. The Second Amendment is an anachronism . SunSeeker Oct 2015 #92

Well i can't speak to the other manufacturers. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #79

why not? Hiraeth Oct 2015 #98

They can still be sued if they manufacture a defective product or break the law. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #67

I would not have voted for the law. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #70

And you're not a member of congress so it doesn't matter. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #74

Yes but since I am on a political message board I am giving my opinion. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #80

And I gave you my opinion of your opinion. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #81

Take care. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #83

No use trying. This is about all they have to criticize Sen Sanders. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #93

How, exactly? Link? cui bono Oct 2015 #110

he voted the will of his constituency, which was *all* of Vermont, not just extreme left cityfolk. magical thyme Oct 2015 #11

He voted against the Brady bill because he wanted background checks instead of a 3 day Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #12

That makes no sense. Why can't you have both? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #14

Guess you had to be there during the negotiations. Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #16

Negotiations? You mean he negotiated with the NRA? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #22

Bernie got into Congress in 1990. The Brady Bill was written in 1991. magical thyme Oct 2015 #25

See post 35. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #37

see post 43. magical thyme Oct 2015 #44

He negotiated with the opposition in Congress on the bill, that is why it was a "bill". Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #30

The "opposition" being gun control proponents? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #40

Ask the authors of the Brady Bill and the Supreme Court. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #45

Oh please, we have no comprehensive national background checks, no AWB. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #68

Amazing to me DemByDefault Oct 2015 #7

She voted against the PLCAA gift to gun manufacturers; he voted for it. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #17

Noone helped bolster firearms sales DemByDefault Oct 2015 #19

No, sadly, what is bolstering gun sales is the paranoia marketed by gun manufacturers & the NRA. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #88

Her 2008 campaign was racist and offensive DemByDefault Oct 2015 #105

Riiiight. That's why John Lewis endorsed her. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #111

You understand I was summarizing her campaign DemByDefault Oct 2015 #107

That is not summarizing. That is offensive lying to score cheap political points. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #108

Please.. DemByDefault Oct 2015 #115

Spoken like someone caught saying racially offensive shit. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #116

Keith Olbermann: The Clintons and race: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #117

That's Keith's opinion. I'll go with John Lewis' opinion. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #120

You tried to bully that poster and make it look like they were lying about the Clintons' campaign. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #121

I'm not bullying anyone. You, on the other hand, have followed me all over this thread with insults SunSeeker Oct 2015 #122

Not anymore you're not. That poster has just as much right to their opinion as you do. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #123

That was an offensive, inaccurate claim of fact, not an opinion. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #124

Nope, my "mission" as it were, is setting the record straight. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #125

Well then we have a shared mission. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #126

My god your pettiness is absurd DemByDefault Oct 2015 #127

Calling out offensive lies is not being "petty" nor "absurd." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #129

Your idol DemByDefault Oct 2015 #135

I don't idolize politicians. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #138

So he voted against the bill before he was in Congress? jeff47 Oct 2015 #20

Apparently, per Sseeker, he voted against it before it was written. magical thyme Oct 2015 #26

"That fart's so bad you can smell it before it was let." Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #54

I never said he "voted against it before it was written." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #89

What? He voted for the PLCAA when he was in Congress. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #27

Read your own post. jeff47 Oct 2015 #29

He promised he would vote against waiting periods and he did. Twice. Second one being in Brady. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #35

Check it out. zalinda Oct 2015 #42

wrong. He voted against the federally mandated waiting period. magical thyme Oct 2015 #43

Thanks, I meant waiting periods, as stated in the text of my post. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #58

Why oppose a universal national waiting period? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #84

Nope! But good job catapulting the propaganda. jeff47 Oct 2015 #55

See post 58 and 34. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #61

Really? You might want to tell the Colorado couple jeff47 Oct 2015 #94

That is not what I nor they agreed to. That arms industry pushed those fees provisions. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #95

Why would they stop? jeff47 Oct 2015 #101

The AR-15 with a 100-round mag is an unreasonably dangerous product. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #112

In the last decade, an AR-15 with 100-round mag has killed 10 people. jeff47 Oct 2015 #114

You think they'd just give up. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #118

AR-15s have no business in civilian hands. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #119

Hey! Where'd those goalposts go? jeff47 Oct 2015 #131

Nonsense. It is the gun mfrs' scheme to bankrupt gun victims for having the temerity to sue them. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #133

Could you point to where the victims are required to file suits they know will fail? jeff47 Oct 2015 #134

Can you point me to the provision that REQUIRES gun mfrs to collect arty fees from the victims? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #136

You do realize you have to pay your own lawyers in a lawsuit, right? jeff47 Oct 2015 #137

Again, cite the provision that REQUIRES gun mfrs to collect $200k from the victims. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #139

So no, you do not understand that you have to pay your own lawyers. jeff47 Oct 2015 #140

Only the gun companies are going after the Aurora victims for $200k in attorneys fees. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #141

My solution is to require gun owners to pay for insurance for their guns -- just like we do with JDPriestly Oct 2015 #50

what is amazing is not believing his record.Iraq war = Hillary. Iran etc= hillary roguevalley Oct 2015 #21

Um, he was already in Congress before the Brady Bill existed magical thyme Oct 2015 #23

Um, he voted against the expanded Brady Bill in 1993, after he got into Congress. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #34

You claimed Bernie got into Congress (in 1990) based on support for a bill written in 91. magical thyme Oct 2015 #39

I did not claim Bernie got into Congress based on support for a bill written in 91. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #51

LMAO! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47

Nope. Did not get anyone refuting any of my facts. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #49

Your "facts"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #52

Yes, facts. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #64

These were your "facts": beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #65

He did vote against the Brady Bill. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #72

And you keep digging... Didn't you do the same thing when you accused a woman of mansplaining? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #73

So you have nothing you can point to in the Washington Post article as being wrong. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #76

You're the one trying to deflect from your made up facts about when and why he was elected. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #77

Nope, just restating what was in the Washington Post article. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #78

Doesn't Bernie... zentrum Oct 2015 #8

an "F" according to "On the Issues" magical thyme Oct 2015 #18

His record and positions ibegurpard Oct 2015 #15

So he's too far left, or not leftie enuf? DemByDefault Oct 2015 #24

Oh, come on - if it wasn't gunz it would be something else. In fact, it WILL be something else. djean111 Oct 2015 #28

I reply only to correct the blatant lies magical thyme Oct 2015 #31

Oh, this was not really aimed at you. djean111 Oct 2015 #32

I know... just got carried away magical thyme Oct 2015 #33

Both will be good for gun owners. Not a big deal. Nt hack89 Oct 2015 #46

Considering that Bernie earns a D-/F from the NRA Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #53

MSM is trying to resurrect Gunz as an issue it once dominated 30 yrs. ago... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #56

I like the title, looks like all of the HC supporters who called Bernie a gun nut were firing duds. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

misfire sounds like a mistake. What the hillarians are doing Doctor_J Oct 2015 #91

Nice work, thank you for posting this. CentralMass Oct 2015 #102

Excellent explanation of his position. ozone_man Oct 2015 #103

The lie with impunity. Does anyone really pay attention to these smear campaigns anymore? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #104

The accusations are hyperbolic to flat-out lies because they have little else to attack him on. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #106

Did he vote for the Brady Bill? Did he vote with the Democrats? George II Oct 2015 #113

This is being brought up by either Clinton surrogates or shady super PACs. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #128

It was never about Bernie's record, just right-wing smears to support a right-wing "Democrat." Scuba Oct 2015 #130

He has been consistent on this subject............................ turbinetree Oct 2015 #132