2016 Postmortem

demwing

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14. With everything stacked against Bernie

Reply to stillwaiting (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:27 AM

Oct 2015

he's certainly the underdog of the debate

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Bernie's Debate Dilemma [View all] demwing Oct 2015 OP

It's who he is. He's not 'performing' for voters, not trying to convince them that he's something Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #1

Let's not underestimate Hillary, she's by far the more experienced debater. demwing Oct 2015 #2

It is impossible to underestimate Hillary FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #7

" She already knows she's unelectable." DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #11

Tomorrow is her last chance to hold on to her lead and she'll fail We Want Bernie Oct 2015 #55

She has a much chance of falling as I have of wresting the Mr. Olympia title from Phil Heath. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #61

she leads in the Democratic Primary polls. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #56

Your outrage seems selective DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #62

Uh-huh. Good luck with that concept. MineralMan Oct 2015 #33

what the heck does this mean? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #43

Maybe it means they teach you win arguments at Yale Law by using... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #57

It's very easy to launder PAC money. jeff47 Oct 2015 #63

So do you think that is what Clinton does? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #74

I was responding to the "you can't pay yourself from the PAC" argument jeff47 Oct 2015 #79

ahhh ok, so Im just need to get that clarification from the person I originally replied to Sheepshank Oct 2015 #88

That I have to disagree with.... daleanime Oct 2015 #59

Oh my... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #66

She'll also have the full force of the media brainwashing apparatus AND the Party behind her. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #9

With everything stacked against Bernie demwing Oct 2015 #14

The media will favor Bernie to promote the horse race treestar Oct 2015 #44

Fair and balanced, that's our media! demwing Oct 2015 #77

that's an understandable sentiment bigtree Oct 2015 #5

I agree. He's been saying these same things over and over for decades. Hortensis Oct 2015 #22

preparing for a debate is only in part performance, learning to wink and smile for the camera. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #41

My thoughts on Tomorrow's Democratic Debate ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #3

I agree with you about O'Malley. If he does well at the debates sufrommich Oct 2015 #12

He will never break 5% AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #78

one caution on O'Malley bigtree Oct 2015 #18

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #26

of course, I agree with your conclusion bigtree Oct 2015 #35

I, too, am a tough judge on these things ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #47

Steve Kornacki pointed out that O'Malley hasn't been getting traction Hortensis Oct 2015 #73

I don't know if I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #90

Bernie has nothing to do wtih O'Malley's problem. Boomer Oct 2015 #91

You guys are both forgetting that without Bernie, the press would Hortensis Oct 2015 #94

Oh come on. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #28

That's probably true. But I will lessen the effect ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #34

I agree with those, mostly 3 treestar Oct 2015 #49

I agree on all but #2 Scootaloo Oct 2015 #51

His positions are well known by those that would need/use opposition research. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #65

Martin has most to gain, least known candidate, very camera friendly. BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #54

I would argue that O'Malley does have the right stuff ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #70

I agree with all of your points. zappaman Oct 2015 #67

Agree with it all JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #82

His only dilemma is how the Corporate Owned MSM Talking Head treats him in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #4

I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #29

After watching how the corporate media had assumed the role of King/Queen maker, Snotcicles Oct 2015 #37

Personally, I think if the Corporate Owned Talking Heads in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #46

^^^this!^^^ plus Bernie will come across as honest & authentic peacebird Oct 2015 #89

I am confident all our stellar candidates will acquit themselves admirably. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #6

I like your message. Please keep it up!- nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #16

If given an opportunity to say something nice... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #17

The undeniable truth is that none of the declared Puke candidates are fit to KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #24

Unlike most people around here Trajan Oct 2015 #8

He's not rehearsing in the traditional way, but he is preparing. magical thyme Oct 2015 #10

He's got a Truth Phaser MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #13

he'll need it. Hillary is a formidable debater. /nt demwing Oct 2015 #23

She's not. We Want Bernie Oct 2015 #60

One shouldn't need rehearsal if they just answers the question candidly, especially Snotcicles Oct 2015 #45

I doubt it hootinholler Oct 2015 #15

when you are an authentic person restorefreedom Oct 2015 #19

Preparing and rehearsing are two vastly different things. TM99 Oct 2015 #20

I hope Bernie does both demwing Oct 2015 #39

Lowering expectations, excellent tactic Fumesucker Oct 2015 #21

Me? im just worried for Bernie. demwing Oct 2015 #25

I recced your thread.. Fumesucker Oct 2015 #27

Bernie doesn't need to remember his positions because they've been the same for 4 decades. onecaliberal Oct 2015 #30

Hillary is free to respond as she sees fit demwing Oct 2015 #32

Of course she isn't, she can change her mind each way the wind blows, as we have seen. onecaliberal Oct 2015 #95

How do you practice honesty? He's been practicing his entire career. BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #31

It's a challenge for sure. demwing Oct 2015 #38

My biggest worry is the tricks that CNN will pull that favor Clinton. BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #40

Foolish not to take advantage of every opportunity to improve his chance at success. procon Oct 2015 #36

There are many ways to prepare for something like this. MineralMan Oct 2015 #42

All Bernie has are the facts. Hillary has more. demwing Oct 2015 #85

I wonder if Bernie fredamae Oct 2015 #48

CNN will try to fix this for Clinton. CNN should be disqualified, period. BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #50

Ok. zappaman Oct 2015 #68

Bernie isn't a performer and I doubt he regards the debate The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #52

Not sure I follow? EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #53

Don't underestimate the challenge he faces demwing Oct 2015 #71

Don't forget JIM WEBB....nobody gives a better speech, and nobody uses words better. MADem Oct 2015 #58

It does not help to analyze the event now, sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #64

People are drawn to his authenticity. Why mess with that? azmom Oct 2015 #69

Bernie will speak the truth, knowledgeably, accurately, and with Zorra Oct 2015 #72

Even the sun can be blocked by a cloud demwing Oct 2015 #75

I'm sure Bernie already knows Zorra Oct 2015 #86

This will be very easy for Bernie AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #76

it's a strong debate tactic for Hillary. demwing Oct 2015 #80

She will be pretending AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #84

Indeed... Ino Oct 2015 #93

I saw an intro on CNN this morning bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #81

They also have a promo featuring Bernie.. frylock Oct 2015 #92

I think this will come off as the "polished elder stateswoman" versus the "gruff elder socialist". DCBob Oct 2015 #83

After contemeplating all the above, I'm convinced that Hillalry will have a strong debate demwing Oct 2015 #87

It's not a difficult challenge when honesty and long held beliefs are driving his answers. Avalux Oct 2015 #96

He knows his stuff and he believes in it. All he has to do is jwirr Oct 2015 #97

Bernie is not a Master debater olddots Oct 2015 #98