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2016 Postmortem

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wyldwolf

(43,891 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 12:10 PM Oct 2015

Sanders nears debate test, once refused request for more than 6 debates [View all]

In one debate, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders pointed a crooked finger at an audience member and yelled at him. “Do you not believe me?” he barked.

In a separate exchange, Sanders leapt out of the seat and, defying the debate rules, dressed down his opponent: “It’s people like you . . . ,” he began, before being cut off by the moderator amid boos from the audience.

These moments are classic Sanders, according to interviews with those who have shared a debate stage with him over a 25-year career in statewide campaigns. He can get defensive. Insults lodge under his skin. He turns bright red and can display a flaring temper.

As Sanders tries to capitalize on his large crowds and leading position in some early state polls, his next big test will be in the upcoming Democratic debates, where the candidate who rose to prominence via small town exchanges before a handful of people will be up against one of the Democratic Party’s most seasoned debaters.

Sanders has joined (the call for more Democratic debates), and his campaign website includes a petition calling on the DNC to add to the schedule.

“The best chance for this country is discussing the issues that matter,” according to Sanders’ website. “Republicans aren’t going to do it, so we need more Democratic debates.”

One person who finds that stance a little odd is William Meub, a personal injury lawyer in Rutland.

Meub was Sanders’ Republican opponent in his 2002 House of Representatives contest, and pressed hard for more than the half-dozen debates that were scheduled.

Feeling that his calls were ignored, he went to Sanders’ Burlington Senate office and interrupted a news conference that Sanders was having on the state’s dairy economy. The two went back and forth several times, with Sanders saying they would have a chance to debate because several encounters were on the books.

Meub replied: “You used to say you’d debate 10 or 15 times. Live by your words Congressman Sanders!”

The Sanders campaign didn’t reply to an e-mail asking about the episode.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/09/23/what-does-hillary-clinton-have-fear-from-bernie-sanders-debate-playbook/V4p6WjjFHpDXfvKU7YDYkN/story.html

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Does this hit-piece have a LINK, or is this your personal handiwork? nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #1
It is a hit piece. Dragging up something from 14 years ago completely out of context to create a Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #3
Does that rule apply across the board? frazzled Oct 2015 #12
You want me to propose rules for Internet comment boards? I am working on it...will let you know. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #13
Your own rules will be a good start frazzled Oct 2015 #17
It is NOT a hit piece--it's an analysis of Sanders' past styles in debates with links. MADem Oct 2015 #22
The Boston Globe is the premier newspaper of New England. MADem Oct 2015 #10
I asked if there was a link to the hit-piece, and then I got one. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #14
I regard it as an historical, not a "hit," piece. MADem Oct 2015 #15
My point is simply this 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #25
So, you're saying with a debate looming, we should not talk about debate styles? Seriously? MADem Oct 2015 #27
It's fine to discuss debate styles, ok. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #33
I am not "defensive," but I am getting just a teeny wee bit tired of the horse shit. MADem Oct 2015 #37
A White House counselor to Bill Clinton also thinks DWS rigged the debate schedule 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #42
That poor guy--tried like hell to be governor of CT; was crushed like a bug, wonder why? MADem Oct 2015 #46
I think this is where we agree to disagree. Have a nice day. -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #49
Dead on. Perfect. Action_Patrol Oct 2015 #57
no, I added the link then two minutes later you asked for one. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #40
Well, congratulations for beating me to it. The original did NOT have a link 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #43
No, it didn't because I forgot to put it. But you obviously see something nefarious in that. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #44
No , but I was admittedly confused by the lack of a link. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #47
Yes, I noticed this was the Boston Globe also. As for who we get to Hortensis Oct 2015 #35
The Globe article is FAVORABLE to him, too--but it requres that people READ IT to see that! MADem Oct 2015 #38
No sense to us. But that "rile them up" thing? Hortensis Oct 2015 #41
I'm incredibly pleased that Sanders is doing well enough MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #2
I am confident all our stellar candidates will acquit themselves admirably. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #4
Except for Clinton, of course. We Want Bernie Oct 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #20
I am confident all our stellar candidates will acquit themselves admirably. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #23
Stop it kenfrequed Oct 2015 #45
... SidDithers Oct 2015 #59
Sanders pointed a finger and yelled “Do you not believe me?" left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #5
"A crooked finger"!!1! whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #11
Well we can add changing his mind on number of debates, to Bernie's resume of changes Sheepshank Oct 2015 #6
But that can't be! That's a death penalty offense according to some DUers. stevenleser Oct 2015 #48
Yes! His phony moral high ground starts eroding pretty fast when examined closer. R B Garr Oct 2015 #51
Aww, you left this part out... Ino Oct 2015 #7
Aww. You have an amazing grasp for the obvious - or can count paragraphs. I left a lot of it out. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #8
Lots of negative about Bernie bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #9
You didn't read the article, either, I see. MADem Oct 2015 #26
Bkkyosemity, people BUY ad time. It's not a fix. It's a purchase. Hortensis Oct 2015 #36
the only test that will matter restorefreedom Oct 2015 #18
One, this is a retread and two read how Meub artislife Oct 2015 #19
Citizens United funded talking point AGAIN! Lol! They sure try to get mileage out of the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #21
This from a Republican "personal injury lawyer" aka Ambulance Chaser? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #24
So, we shouldn't listen to him? He said that Sanders was a good debater--you're saying he's lying? MADem Oct 2015 #29
Go ahead if you want to. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #30
Uh...you were the one discrediting what the guy had to say--not me. nt MADem Oct 2015 #31
only Hillary's past can be discussed. the new messiah is above such historical examination nt msongs Oct 2015 #28
Totally untrue. DU has discussed Sanders' past to ludicrous degrees since he announced, starting merrily Oct 2015 #32
I hope there aren't any sharp objects near the stage that Scary Sanders might use Armstead Oct 2015 #34
and if he doesn't get her ibegurpard Oct 2015 #55
Lol. morningfog Oct 2015 #39
Kick nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #50
Yes, because congressional races are just like the Presidency. GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #52
Ha ha ha ha artislife Oct 2015 #53
Lol, Meub burst into Sanders' meeting and demanded "about eight debates." Vattel Oct 2015 #54
Kick nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #56
What an utter trash OP jfern Oct 2015 #58
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