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58. "because these people aren’t nearly as smart as they think, this almost always backfires... "

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The DNC Screwed Hillary — Now Get Ready For A Bernie Sanders Earthquake - Salon [View all] WillyT Oct 2015 OP

People are sick of Politics-As-Usual and the games that politicians play. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #1

I hear that a lot from teapartiers. randys1 Oct 2015 #3

Mark Twain wasn't a Tea Bagger. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #4

THREAD WIN, Hillary attacker actually quotes TWAIN LOL randys1 Oct 2015 #5

Are you also going blame Mark? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #7

Your use of TWAIN is laughable. randys1 Oct 2015 #9

Twain was a humorist. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #11

I am a prophet, did you know that? randys1 Oct 2015 #14

And, Twain would be responible for that? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #16

Stop dragging Twain into this nightmare DU libertarians are preparing us for. randys1 Oct 2015 #18

haaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! wendylaroux Oct 2015 #52

+1. Nailed it. (N/T) Old Crow Oct 2015 #111

Jury results pinebox Oct 2015 #53

FWIW, I would have voted to leave it alone. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #75

I did pinebox Oct 2015 #77

Libertarians? From a HRC supporter? LOL pinebox Oct 2015 #54

Juror 6 here and you so nailed it. nt ucrdem Oct 2015 #56

Thanks, and the alert is a perfect example how stupid this is now. Disagree with randys1 Oct 2015 #79

No. I agree with Twain and I think his statement is appropriate to the discussion. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #74

You want prophecy? I'll give you prophecy.... daleanime Oct 2015 #118

Dire imprecations! Death and mayhem follow... druidity33 Oct 2015 #127

"Hillary attacker " "libertarians"? AlbertCat Oct 2015 #27

"We have the best Congress money can buy." Mark Twain (nt) Ned Flanders Oct 2015 #89

'aye 840high Oct 2015 #138

Twain is often cited as inspiring the term "New Deal" deutsey Oct 2015 #90

Thanks, I'll add that book to my list. navarth Oct 2015 #123

You appear to be saying that as an insult, but it isn't. The TeaParty grassroots people rhett o rick Oct 2015 #13

I have nothing in common with racists, misogynists, homophobes, etc. randys1 Oct 2015 #15

Your attempts to distort what I say is telling. You are apparently not able to address rhett o rick Oct 2015 #24

THIS is what scares me and should scare all liberals. Are you as willing as you seem to be to randys1 Oct 2015 #33

Our founders decided that they didn't want to fight for small changes, they rhett o rick Oct 2015 #65

So the social issues dont really effect you, got it. randys1 Oct 2015 #76

Social issues are very important to me. I don't think we will get much social justice rhett o rick Oct 2015 #104

Which "founders"? JackRiddler Oct 2015 #129

Are you trying to make a point? nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #130

Just bored with everyone's bullshit about the "founders." JackRiddler Oct 2015 #136

You have gotten off the issues of the campaign against the GOP. DhhD Oct 2015 #68

You state this as if it's already decided passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #81

That is a False choice. We ain't choosing between HRC and a GOP stooge it is HRC or SANDERS Vincardog Oct 2015 #87

+1,000,000 cui bono Oct 2015 #105

...^ that 840high Oct 2015 #141

Bernie doesn't bash Hillary, nor do I. mahina Oct 2015 #100

Bash Wasserman Schultz for keeping agenda obscure bjobotts Oct 2015 #139

This is how you rationalize calling Hillary a "liberal". beerandjesus Oct 2015 #57

Exactly. And that's why they fabricated the faux social justice vs. economic justice outrage. cui bono Oct 2015 #106

It's interesting who call themselves liberal. As you put it, they think that if they are for rhett o rick Oct 2015 #108

+1000. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #133

Yeah F*** the tea party workinclasszero Oct 2015 #28

Wow, that's very tough of you. But be aware, while you are doing that, Goldman-Sachs rhett o rick Oct 2015 #109

It's about with whom your candidate has things in common, elehhhhna Oct 2015 #73

You want to know? pinebox Oct 2015 #80

You made someone sad Lurks Often Oct 2015 #116

imagine pinebox Oct 2015 #144

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Yeah, I think we both have a pretty good idea Lurks Often Oct 2015 #154

...+1 840high Oct 2015 #142

I don't think it is that we agree with the tea party. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #94

You have more in common than you think. zeemike Oct 2015 #96

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could not agree more restorefreedom Oct 2015 #37

The 1% Oligarchy wants us to fight among ourselves, but they are the problem. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #67

yup. i have a vision restorefreedom Oct 2015 #69

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #117

Whoa! one_voice Oct 2015 #147

Those in the Tea Party you are mentioning are not the grass-roots. Those you are describing are rhett o rick Oct 2015 #148

Every Tea Party person.. one_voice Oct 2015 #149

I am not arguing any of that. We've gotten away from what I said, probably because rhett o rick Oct 2015 #150

Right on! olegramps Oct 2015 #155

"no matter who, no matter what," AlbertCat Oct 2015 #23

When someone says my way or the highway, same thing randys1 Oct 2015 #25

"my way or the highway," AlbertCat Oct 2015 #32

Sparky Anderson said that... Indepatriot Oct 2015 #134

I hear that a lot from everybody Armstead Oct 2015 #34

Oh please, partisanship LOL randys1 Oct 2015 #39

Well if that's yoour attitude I'd say you are a circular defeatist Armstead Oct 2015 #42

You lost yourself, now you dont even know what you are talking about. randys1 Oct 2015 #45

....and you say we have to accept that the system has to stay broken Armstead Oct 2015 #47

That is a defeatist attitude, a defensive attitude passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #83

I hear it lot from Democrats. They are not happy with the Third Way takeover of their party. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #92

Nicely stated.... Docreed2003 Oct 2015 #103

You cannot be President and not be a politician: It takes good politician to win! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #8

Opinions differ. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #12

Opinions do differ. I would rather have someone right off the street even with no qualifications if Enthusiast Oct 2015 #84

unwise to feed trolls. nt navarth Oct 2015 #124

Even if you are correct that she is the most "qualified", that doesn't mean she will rhett o rick Oct 2015 #17

Hillary is the most qualified AlbertCat Oct 2015 #35

To do what? JackRiddler Oct 2015 #137

Hillary is -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #41

Same here. 840high Oct 2015 #143

Hillary is whatever the polls want her to be. I wouldn't call that a breath of fresh air, I would Autumn Oct 2015 #62

Perhaps true for the candidate. That doesn't mean the people win. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #64

President use to chuckle about people who wanted there Kids be President! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #158

No, the job of the president is to serve the people. Your views sound very much jtuck004 Oct 2015 #159

Politician is a person who brings people together: That is a person serving the people: lewebley3 Oct 2015 #160

Uh... I guess you didn't actually read the article the OP is about. cui bono Oct 2015 #107

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Not sick enough or Bernie would be the front runner right now. nt ladjf Oct 2015 #126

Just wow. This lays it out, loud & clear - BOOM! 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2

Very Kind Of You To Say, 99th_Monkey WillyT Oct 2015 #22

Well written Boov Oct 2015 #6

Yes, agree...excellent. Nice work! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #44

I was better than most Mnpaul Oct 2015 #122

K & R Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #10

I think that if there were more debates, she'd be polling lower. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #19

Bernie is going to benefit greatly from the debates, delayed as they are. hifiguy Oct 2015 #40

I imagine when the contrast between Bernie and Hillary is seen, Vinca Oct 2015 #20

She has surrounded herself with sycophants and ass kissers who only tell her what she wants to hear tularetom Oct 2015 #21

has the phrase "everyday americans" been scrapped? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #30

Of course there is still a very good chance she can get nominated AlbertCat Oct 2015 #38

+!. And no one can motivate more of the reichwing cave orcs hifiguy Oct 2015 #43

A Socialist on the ballot redstateblues Oct 2015 #46

Give it a rest, in the name of the FSM. hifiguy Oct 2015 #49

While true, to the average, low attention span voter Socialist = Communist. BillZBubb Oct 2015 #82

To the average voter, socialist = Democrat eridani Oct 2015 #153

I disagree. The average voter doesn't view Democrat = socialist. BillZBubb Oct 2015 #156

The RW has indeed convinced the general public that public goods are socialist, that is "bad" eridani Oct 2015 #161

Great read! Thanks for posting! leftupnorth Oct 2015 #26

Intelligent analysis. Bernie will win Tuesday. Hands down. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #29

Very interesting -- and insightful -- read. Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #30

+1 nt jonno99 Oct 2015 #98

That is about the heart of it. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #131

Earthquake, guess this is a new look on the outcome, I will have to bookmark this one. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #36

Ouch! K&R magical thyme Oct 2015 #48

There ya go! Four out of the five candidates wanted MORE DEBATES. The 5th...wait for it in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #50

After the general in 2016, she is gone anyway. DFW Oct 2015 #95

but but but it's not up to her... LiberalLovinLug Oct 2015 #128

This is a great article that really sums up the difference between the two leading candidates. BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #51

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #119

a big issue is that the more Clinton's side uses its levers of party power the more it backfires MisterP Oct 2015 #55

"because these people aren’t nearly as smart as they think, this almost always backfires... " Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #58

"Barely leading". Hahaha! JaneyVee Oct 2015 #59

Now a 15-20 point lead is "barely" leading apparently. Yeah, no agenda there... nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #60

It is when it used to be a 60-point lead. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #61

The hill shills love to ignore that she is trailing in the first two contests and losing ground morningfog Oct 2015 #63

What is he complaining about? Sanders has made no discernible effort to join the party. ucrdem Oct 2015 #66

Doesn't matter. GDP is now a place for flamebait. Only one opinion is allowed. shenmue Oct 2015 #85

PARTY BEFORE POLICY DirtyHippyBastard Oct 2015 #91

Sanders has no party, no constituency, no bench and exactly two endorsements. ucrdem Oct 2015 #93

Well, you convinced me DirtyHippyBastard Oct 2015 #99

whistling in the dark... (nt) Ned Flanders Oct 2015 #101

Go ahead, ignore the fact that Bernie will defeat Clinton soundly enough that everyone notices We Want Bernie Oct 2015 #110

Thank you. 840high Oct 2015 #145

It's high time that the party join Bernie (and the rest of us). BernieFan57 Oct 2015 #120

Kicked and recommended, the author nailed it. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #70

Thank you, Willy Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #71

Yes It Is... WillyT Oct 2015 #88

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So now limited debates are a GOOD thing. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #78

That is to be determined. BillZBubb Oct 2015 #86

Hm, big change in DNC photo in email I got from them today about the debate. Gmak Oct 2015 #97

Should the DNC Chair have the sole power to decide Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #102

That would be a good resolution Mnpaul Oct 2015 #121

Bernie suggested the Democrats debate the Republicans during primary season ALBliberal Oct 2015 #112

DWS picked the wrong horse, and she'll have to ride it out of town tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #113

This looks like a way to explain a poor performance by Hillary and lower expectations. EEO Oct 2015 #114

i was wondering why the first debate is in a casino hopemountain Oct 2015 #115

Yes I noticed this too navarth Oct 2015 #125

Willy - thank you for 840high Oct 2015 #135

Anytime 840high, Anytime... WillyT Oct 2015 #140

"Clinton Loses First National Democratic Party Debate." Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #151

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