2016 Postmortem

longship

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55. Utter tosh!

Mon Oct 12, 2015, 02:23 PM

Oct 2015

I made my case. Rude? Not me.

It is rude to suggest that a Democratic candidate is not a real Democrat. That would be tactic based on some ideological argument, not on actualities. During his entire political career Sanders has caucused with the Democratic Party. Apparently to some, that is not good enough.

I would paste a quadruple face palm here, but apparently there is no number of them sufficient.

And by the way, I have not expressed any candidate preference in these forums, and will not do so. So any claim that I am a Bernie supporter will fail, except that I may credibly be called a Democratic Party candidate supporter, including Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley, and yes even Chafee and Lessig. I choose not to tip my hand here because this Web site has become so toxic recently.

However, when one trots out such a demonstrably false statement, no matter who the candidate is, I have to jump in.

I stand by my post.

My regards to you.

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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard uninvited from debates thanks to DNC, Bernie has her covered [View all] pinebox Oct 2015 OP

DWS is petty and thin-skinned for uninviting Rep Gabbard. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #1

Can Bernie toss anyone out of the DNC when he's not a Dem? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #8

I believe the Presidents choice heads the Party. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #11

But Obama was a Dem...that makes sense Sheepshank Oct 2015 #12

if he wins the presidency on a dem ticket restorefreedom Oct 2015 #27

Is that an opinion or a rule? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #41

i think all of this is unwritten restorefreedom Oct 2015 #66

well, we will have to disagree on this point. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #79

Back to Tulsi, turns out she's very ambitious. Back-stabbing Hortensis Oct 2015 #112

i don't think he will be interested in "firing" anyone restorefreedom Oct 2015 #118

He will be president of the United States. Won't be given serious thought? rofl n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #138

He's running as a dem. He'll win as a dem. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #124

But he's not a Dem Sheepshank Oct 2015 #128

Le sigh. artislife Oct 2015 #130

That sounds a lot like the Teabaggers claiming Obama isn't an American. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #135

no it's not like that....calling a DU Dem a teabagger is just not a standard I subscribe to nt Sheepshank Oct 2015 #141

Bernie is a fellow traveler too. More so than some DINOs I could name. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #145

what does that have to do with you call me a teabagger? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #147

I didn't. I said the tactic came from the same mindset.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #152

Repetition is a learned tactic Sheepshank Oct 2015 #153

Depends on your definition of a Democrat.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #156

Want don't you give it a rest. The Democratic voters will decide who will represent them Bernblu Oct 2015 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Oct 2015 #142

I'm not sure why you feel I'm the one to give it a rest Sheepshank Oct 2015 #149

A Republican POTUS selects chair of GOP. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #59

It is clear now, but not how it was worded before. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #80

Officially, the DNC elects the chair. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #93

I completely understand what you mean Sheepshank Oct 2015 #100

DNC has nothing to gain by teabaggist type obstruction. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #108

He's running as a dem. Ergo as of now he is a dem. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #125

You are repeating yourself Sheepshank Oct 2015 #129

And you keep parroting the "he's not a Democrat" line. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #158

I'll keep stating the obvious as often as I please. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #159

never mind nt a la izquierda Oct 2015 #19

He is running as a Democrat, so he's a fucking Democrat. longship Oct 2015 #38

no he's not a Democrat. he's said he never wants to be one Sheepshank Oct 2015 #45

Utter tosh! longship Oct 2015 #55

yes you were rude...you can't walk it back it's pretty visible. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #81

ROFL! longship Oct 2015 #126

Its not even worth engaging DemByDefault Oct 2015 #127

On Democratic Underground of all places... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #144

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #150

Thank you for your "concern" Z_California Oct 2015 #63

yes...I'm concerned about party building Sheepshank Oct 2015 #82

If Bernie didn't believe in D party values Z_California Oct 2015 #83

as soon as he says that he is a Democrat and walks this back Sheepshank Oct 2015 #85

Maybe you want to have those like Strom Thurmond back as Democrats? cascadiance Oct 2015 #90

what a strange comment? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #98

It seems your ONLY criteria to criticize him is that he's not a Democratic Party member... cascadiance Oct 2015 #101

yup, on this thread I'm trying to keep on topic. n/t Sheepshank Oct 2015 #103

Glad to see you acknowledge your own meaninglessness! cascadiance Oct 2015 #109

and your attempt to constantly derail the topic at hand Sheepshank Oct 2015 #115

Running for the Democratic nomination in the primary makes a politician a Democrat. Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #78

nope...that doesn't automatically make them a Dem Sheepshank Oct 2015 #84

He disses UNDEMOCRATIC principles by those who CLAIM to have them but really serve 1% rule! cascadiance Oct 2015 #89

When or where has Bernie ever said he wants to be a Democrat? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #92

WHAT has he said to diss the party? cascadiance Oct 2015 #104

you could try a little doing some of your own research....it was easy to find.. Sheepshank Oct 2015 #113

Supporting Democratic POLICY in most of our books is more important than a Democratic LABEL!!!! cascadiance Oct 2015 #88

when XXXX is "LIKE" YYYYY Sheepshank Oct 2015 #94

You talk like your coaching a football team, not one of a party of constituents of common VALUES!!!! cascadiance Oct 2015 #97

good. it's good that he likes some Dem values. He just dislikes the party Sheepshank Oct 2015 #102

He also helps the party in many cases too... cascadiance Oct 2015 #106

Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #119

I'm not crazy about the way the party has shifted to the right, are you? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #157

So, where's the quote that says "he never wants to be one"? cascadiance Oct 2015 #91

You attempt to imply that he is a Dem because you think he is like a Dem Sheepshank Oct 2015 #95

He knows that to run as an independent blondie58 Oct 2015 #117

He's more of a democrat than many Dems tblue Oct 2015 #131

Yes, I've heard that same line here on DU a lot Sheepshank Oct 2015 #133

DWS is a total embarassment. lark Oct 2015 #9

She did that because she is representing her district, and that's how they feel on the matter. MADem Oct 2015 #40

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #18

Little dirty politics passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #35

the bernie supporters remind me of hillary's campaign against obama saturnsring Oct 2015 #2

What's the common denominator in both elections? artislife Oct 2015 #3

The establishment did it to themselves LettuceSea Oct 2015 #4

Wowser. 99Forever Oct 2015 #5

then you agree that anyone challenging the debates gets barred roguevalley Oct 2015 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #16

no i dont agree saturnsring Oct 2015 #24

The smell of desperation in 08 was not coming from Obama's campaign. madfloridian Oct 2015 #10

i agree saturnsring Oct 2015 #25

it smells of desperation AlbertCat Oct 2015 #17

im talking about in general, the postings of right-wing content against hillary and saturnsring Oct 2015 #28

the postings of right-wing content against hillary AlbertCat Oct 2015 #42

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! 7962 Oct 2015 #48

lol Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #56

Damn, Cat, beat me to it. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #77

Your comment smells of something other than desperation red dog 1 Oct 2015 #21

You are right her campaign does give off the desperate smell again. Vincardog Oct 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author saturnsring Oct 2015 #23

That is what I read. " hillary's campaign against obama in that it smells of desperation " agreed Vincardog Oct 2015 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author saturnsring Oct 2015 #29

Relax I am agreeing with you. Vincardog Oct 2015 #31

ok sorry saturnsring Oct 2015 #32

i agree, i can smell it from here restorefreedom Oct 2015 #30

And they will tell themselves that they have it in the bag until Bernie is inaugurated Vincardog Oct 2015 #36

remember rove's meltdown on fox? restorefreedom Oct 2015 #39

I am and will be working HARD to make it so. After that we have to work harder to change Vincardog Oct 2015 #44

changing the system is key for sure. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #68

I remember this clip very well: 7962 Oct 2015 #49

jon, come back! restorefreedom Oct 2015 #72

Nice way to turn a DNC Wasserman thread passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #47

i like bernie. i dont like many of the ways his supporters are showing their support saturnsring Oct 2015 #52

Do you think repeating the same talking point makes it believable? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #53

what "talking point"? what "it" am i trying to make believable? saturnsring Oct 2015 #57

Let's see...low post count, relatively new account, spouting the "Sanders supporters are icky" jeff47 Oct 2015 #62

I like Bernie, I hate his supporters passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #61

There's nothing behind the curtain, let's all just move on...says Debbie Downer. jalan48 Oct 2015 #6

Well played, Sir! Fritz Walter Oct 2015 #13

You are right, Blus4u Oct 2015 #43

Uninvite THIS - Debbie Downer!!!!! LongTomH Oct 2015 #14

I am getting tired of un-elected persons deciding what I need to know Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #15

Who are the un-elected persons? nt MADem Oct 2015 #33

DNC Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #46

Your facts are out of order. MADem Oct 2015 #50

I do not believe they were elected by the democratic masses Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #51

The comments I wrote in post 64, below, apply to you as well. nt MADem Oct 2015 #67

thanks Angry Dragon Oct 2015 #73

She is elected by one district in Florida. That is not the same as having national support. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #54

Are you being serious? This is unbelievable, frankly, your comment. MADem Oct 2015 #64

You're the one hiding behind "SHE'S ELECTED!!!!one!!!". jeff47 Oct 2015 #74

+100 Not nearly enough people agree with you. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #139

I will wait until this "story" has been disproven. Nothing at all says it's true. George II Oct 2015 #20

It's NOT TRUE--what is UP with all these false reports being shopped on line? MADem Oct 2015 #37

It's true. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #65

According to the LINK AT THE OP, it is NOT TRUE. MADem Oct 2015 #69

New York Times HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #70

She said she was disinvited. The DNC aide said otherwise. MADem Oct 2015 #162

Please, DWS is HRC's lapdog... Yurovsky Oct 2015 #163

The link that was supposed to prove the point...it didn't. MADem Oct 2015 #164

Why not use google to find when she WAS "invited"? You can't be "uninvited" unless...... George II Oct 2015 #76

Gabbard Has Been On TV Quite A Few Times, Just Tonight And ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #121

You need to look at the link. She was not told that. Let's be polite--she's "misunderstanding." nt MADem Oct 2015 #123

Here you go George passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #60

Here: HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #71

What happened to George? Indepatriot Oct 2015 #137

It's TWO DNC vice chairs against the DNC chair jfern Oct 2015 #87

Where does he say that? nt sufrommich Oct 2015 #96

Twitter. See comment 86. jfern Oct 2015 #105

His tweet says " I was not scheduled to go to that debate" sufrommich Oct 2015 #114

Right here. We Want Bernie Oct 2015 #107

That article does not say he was uninvited,at all. sufrommich Oct 2015 #116

Really Don't Want To Argue With You, But Reality Isn't Something ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #122

this is the kind of class restorefreedom Oct 2015 #34

Debbie Wasserman Schultz needs to be "uninvited" from being DNC Chairwoman red dog 1 Oct 2015 #58

Let's just uninvite the DNC.... haikugal Oct 2015 #75

Tulsi Gabbard is "a chairwoman of the DNC" red dog 1 Oct 2015 #154

Restocking doesn't mean get rid of everyone.. haikugal Oct 2015 #155

DWS needs to go....we agree on that! red dog 1 Oct 2015 #160

What is a democratic socialist? haikugal Oct 2015 #161

Thanks for that red dog 1 Oct 2015 #165

DNC vice chair R.T. Rybak also disinvited jfern Oct 2015 #86

Not true. He clearly states "I was not scheduled to go to that debate" Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #148

Perfect example of the Streisand Effect backfiring badly on Schultz. pa28 Oct 2015 #99

+1. But it's seeing plenty of attention on real people comms venues n/t Catherina Oct 2015 #110

They're sending a message, 'don't fuck with the establishment'. eom NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #111

She was promted to Major fadedrose Oct 2015 #120

We should support Russia bombing terrorists. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #132

k&r avaistheone1 Oct 2015 #134

When was she "invited"? George II Oct 2015 #140

Here pinebox Oct 2015 #146

Nice google search but it doesn't answer the question - all of those links.... George II Oct 2015 #151

So has she accepted SoapBox Oct 2015 #143