2016 Postmortem

Blus4u

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40. The cap on SS wages needs to be raised or done away with.

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 11:15 AM

Oct 2015

If nothing more than to assist with coverage of the multitude of minimum wage (and low wage) earners in the workforce now. They aren't all high schoolers living with mom & dad.

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Debate: Read what Hillary said about Social Security v e r y carefully. [View all] antigop Oct 2015 OP

Bernie's approach is more sensible and simple. JRLeft Oct 2015 #1

And that would be....? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #56

Eliminate the cap. JRLeft Oct 2015 #58

Bernie didn't call to eliminate the cap he called to raise it. nt Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #66

He's mentioned it plenty of times on the Thom Hartmann show. JRLeft Oct 2015 #69

Now you are moving the topic and provide no support, like a direct quote. You claimed it was Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #77

The bill he introduced starts with raising it and suggests eliminating it in the future. Vinca Oct 2015 #81

Some of Hillary Clinton's statements on Social Security. portlander23 Oct 2015 #2

" I'm going to look for ways to try to make sure it's solvent into the future." nt antigop Oct 2015 #3

Like nobody knows yet, how to keep SS "solvent into the future" 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #95

that's why these questions need to be asked at the debates. We need a strong debate on antigop Oct 2015 #96

Yep. I'm with you on that. -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #97

Totally agreeing with you and 99th Monkey. n/t truedelphi Oct 2015 #101

Aren't Educators, Police Officers & Firefighters And The Like..... global1 Oct 2015 #11

I believe that in California, if you are expected to be eligible for a teacher's pension, JDPriestly Oct 2015 #27

Just for clarity: Fawke Em Oct 2015 #39

public school teachers in wealthy suburbs definitely make six figures tk2kewl Oct 2015 #55

California teachers used to qualify for both... YvonneCa Oct 2015 #60

Plenty of cops, firefighters, and teachers make more than $117K Recursion Oct 2015 #85

"I don't want to raise taxes on anyone"... Riiiight whathehell Oct 2015 #31

They know they can't cut current Boomers benefits because Boomers have the voting liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #59

You Mean A Certain Female Democrat That Wants To Be President Will Let SS Die A Death By.... global1 Oct 2015 #89

Looking for what is staring one right in the face is ridiculous. Autumn Oct 2015 #4

Sounds good to me... trumad Oct 2015 #5

Means testing is step #1 in destroying any spending program. jeff47 Oct 2015 #33

Means testing is the first step to taking it away. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #42

"We're not twisting it." No, we are not. nt antigop Oct 2015 #48

That so many people here heard "means testing" proves we're not. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #50

Who else but Wall Street would be administering the means test. Private testing costs money. DhhD Oct 2015 #82

she wants to introduce "means testing". nt antigop Oct 2015 #6

That's what I heard..means testing. nt haikugal Oct 2015 #8

Which will screw the middle class again lostnfound Oct 2015 #32

Yep. nt antigop Oct 2015 #38

Yes! Trying to make Soc Sec and Medicare look like hand-out systems. Free giveaways. madfloridian Oct 2015 #65

Exactly. Means testing makes it a welfare program. senz Oct 2015 #68

Means-testing involves delays that can take years. daredtowork Oct 2015 #80

that would be how I read it rurallib Oct 2015 #9

"you can set one SS recipient against another" +1000 nt antigop Oct 2015 #12

Yes...that's how I read it, also. n/t KoKo Oct 2015 #34

" I will focus on helping those people who need it the most." antigop Oct 2015 #7

Yup, that would be means testing. TM99 Oct 2015 #14

and people will vote against their own interest. nt antigop Oct 2015 #16

Most Americans, no matter their race TM99 Oct 2015 #43

well, it's not like the corporate media actually reports on the issues. antigop Oct 2015 #46

Yes and yes TM99 Oct 2015 #53

Which we've done for 30 years by taxing benefits that take total income over $32K Recursion Oct 2015 #86

Yup. Positioned very well to start filleting away those who don't need it so much. Dissecting will Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #17

yep, it's right there. nt antigop Oct 2015 #19

That is means testing. We already have a program called jwirr Oct 2015 #28

The SSI floor is too low in my opinion exboyfil Oct 2015 #37

Yes, it has never been adjusted since it became a law. So jwirr Oct 2015 #45

To me SSI demonstrates the danger of spending without a dedicated revenue stream Recursion Oct 2015 #87

Yes, but it covers a huge group of people not just the elderly. jwirr Oct 2015 #91

I had an aunt who raised 3 children and was out of the main stream work force Historic NY Oct 2015 #10

The big problem was the medical bills, wasn't it? Human101948 Oct 2015 #13

She might have been able to apply under her husband's contribution jeff47 Oct 2015 #35

He was self-employed but wasn't good with finances... Historic NY Oct 2015 #52

O'Malley has a plan that begins to address that, incidentally Recursion Oct 2015 #88

She's still talking in Third Way tongue. Broward Oct 2015 #15

Imagine that. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #72

Sometimes you can read thing a little too carefully moobu2 Oct 2015 #18

and...thanks for the kick so more people can actually read what she said. nt antigop Oct 2015 #21

That's why a follow up question for specifics is warranted. EndElectoral Oct 2015 #23

Not when it's a lawyer or politician making the statement Fumesucker Oct 2015 #67

My parents are both on Social Security... one_voice Oct 2015 #20

Read up on senior's situations before Social Security EndElectoral Oct 2015 #24

Yes, they were much worse off than we are even when we jwirr Oct 2015 #29

You don't have to have a lot of children and poor relative to find it difficult to save. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #51

It's just a short snip Babel_17 Oct 2015 #22

Yet another reason I will not vote for Hillary Clinton. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #25

Instead of raising the, which gets raised every year anyway, how about paying back lostnfound Oct 2015 #36

I think you are confusing the COLA with the cap. The COLA jwirr Oct 2015 #98

Not confused.. The cap has risen in most years, as follow: lostnfound Oct 2015 #99

Thank you. I did not know that. jwirr Oct 2015 #100

I still agree with the idea that we need a more progressive tax rate in general but.. lostnfound Oct 2015 #102

I agree. And I think Bernie might be the only candidate jwirr Oct 2015 #103

The cap on SS wages needs to be raised or done away with. Blus4u Oct 2015 #40

JD, the wealthy benefit from the whole arrangement antigop Oct 2015 #44

Sounds like Obama's Chained CPI proposal. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #26

Sounds like she wants to move Social Security toward a "need-based" welfare program Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #30

and I hope people understand the difference. nt antigop Oct 2015 #47

In part it already is exboyfil Oct 2015 #54

Wow, you can say that again. highprincipleswork Oct 2015 #41

She wants to do away with social security just like Obama!!! zappaman Oct 2015 #49

That is similar to what people said in 1983 when the system was reformed Samantha Oct 2015 #57

kick nt antigop Oct 2015 #61

"Needs based" = welfare. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #62

Gee if she hadn't supported Welfare Deform..... Armstead Oct 2015 #63

"I'm going to look for ways to try to make sure it's solvent into the future." hay rick Oct 2015 #64

My first thought was...that's Chained CPI lingo Oilwellian Oct 2015 #78

Raises this question in my mind: hay rick Oct 2015 #83

Apparently an unimportant issue to the pundits who raved about her "performance." senz Oct 2015 #70

Who cares -what- she said. She was just so poised & looked so presidential. RiverLover Oct 2015 #75

I do not trust any politician who talks like that. I am CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #71

Means testing will make social security into welfare. We all know how that worked out in the past. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #73

One of two very serious issues I have with her and the Democratic Party's mmonk Oct 2015 #74

I won't be voting for that. azmom Oct 2015 #76

Kicking because this issue is very important to the majority of Americans. senz Oct 2015 #79

ditto DemReadingDU Oct 2015 #84

This Is A Very Important Difference Between Bernie & Hillary And At The Next Debate.... global1 Oct 2015 #90

BS response. Sanders raised the question of where she stands on the Chained CPI and sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #92

Does this mean my disabled children have to reach a certain level mmonk Oct 2015 #93

mmonk, very good question. I really wish Social Security would be brought up at the debates. antigop Oct 2015 #94