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frylock

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72. It's all part of the VRWC! The VRWC which the media played part in. The media that now sez..

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #64)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 12:11 AM

Oct 2015

that Hillary won the debate!

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The Florida Democratic Debate Focus Group [View all] Uncle Joe Oct 2015 OP

Frank Luntz? Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #1

Do you believe the people in the focus group were lying? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #2

Not lying, I think they were given a professional warm-up. Hortensis Oct 2015 #4

But they didn't Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #10

True, but they still "dumped" Hillary and publicly admired her competitor Hortensis Oct 2015 #13

Doubts which were rebutted at the end. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #18

Oh, I missed that and was wrong there then, but in the end Hortensis Oct 2015 #29

How about this one, Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #31

Yes. I'm sorry, is your point that Frank Luntz and Fox are Hortensis Oct 2015 #36

My point is the focus groups, whether FOX, CNN or Fusion chose Bernie as the winner and the Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #42

Sure. My take is that everyone declaring one "winner" is Hortensis Oct 2015 #43

Bernie doesn't ponder about anything except the issues, Hillary has been dramatically "moving" Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #45

Uncle Joe, HRC is ENABLED to move farther left in large part because Hortensis Oct 2015 #48

Hortensis, Bernie pondering the issues being how to represent the best interests of Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #49

Well, looks like our thoughts are on 2 nonintersecting lines. Hortensis Oct 2015 #73

The Fusion group was millennials mythology Oct 2015 #71

Have people forgotten that Frank Luntz's main source of revenue ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #15

The corporate media as an Institution prefers Republicans, their fall back line is Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #17

Perhaps ... But how do you square that with Luntz pumping for Bernie? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #38

I didn't think it was pumping, he simply asked them the question as to who they thought won, then he Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #40

Okay, though knowing Luntz's history and profession, I wouldn't put any faith ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #41

Completely a different subject how can you support Hillary knowing her corporate ties? JRLeft Oct 2015 #51

I think you're missing a word. If the word is "You" ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #52

Hillary Rodham Clinton member of the Carlyle Group, ex member JRLeft Oct 2015 #53

What does any of that have to do with ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #54

I told you I wanted to go off topic. JRLeft Oct 2015 #55

Oh ... Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #66

Yes, some more extreme bernistas do, but then there are the REST Hortensis Oct 2015 #22

Oh ... Don't get me wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #39

P.S. If Luntz was so "pro-Bernie" why did he push the word "socialist" as a means to get them Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #3

Fun video, thanks, Uncle Joe. To delight the Fox viewers, of course. Hortensis Oct 2015 #5

Perhaps you prefer CNN's propaganda. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #12

Just for context, the CNN focus group yielded similar results. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #6

Oh jesus Robbins Oct 2015 #8

The corporate media has done its best to demean the people on the Internet. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #11

You are right to be skeptical of any Frank Luntz/Faux Newz focus group. Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #9

CNN and Fusion focus groups had same result Report1212 Oct 2015 #68

Frank Luntz and Faux Newz have fixed their focus groups in the past: Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #7

So the corporate media is pushing Sanders. Interesting. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #14

The focus groups thought Bernie won, but the corporate media pundits have been pushing Hillary Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #16

Here is where you go terribly wrong and this whole "idea" has become a joke. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #19

I never said Luntz wasn't a corporate media pundit and he didn't support Bernie with this question. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #26

What an odd post Egnever Oct 2015 #58

that is an awfully white group of people dsc Oct 2015 #24

How about this group? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #34

it was a much, much younger group than voters over all dsc Oct 2015 #37

These pro Bernie groups are getting to be rather numerous.. frylock Oct 2015 #67

Ugh. One of the most dishonest people Skidmore Oct 2015 #20

Were the people on the focus group lying? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #21

I wouldn't trust Frank Luntz any further than I could throw him. Skidmore Oct 2015 #23

No one is "hooking their stars" to Luntz, this about the focus group and not just that one but Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #28

Any group put together by Luntz Skidmore Oct 2015 #30

How about this group, Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #32

Too white. Too young. Too many males. Too many small donations. frylock Oct 2015 #69

no but he picked them dsc Oct 2015 #25

Those people that he picked gave their highest grades on the video in real time while Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #27

Only means they rated in real time but Skidmore Oct 2015 #33

It says they thought highly about the substantive issues of the day, they disliked the corporate Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #35

I repeat. If Luntz picked the panel, then Skidmore Oct 2015 #44

I don't know whether Luntz picked the panel but I am wondering whether MSNBC ever held a focus Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #46

Why should they? The debate was being held by Skidmore Oct 2015 #47

Why shouldn't they, apparently FOX did, not to mention sites like Fusion Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #50

The less that people know, the better.. frylock Oct 2015 #70

Isnt he the won everybody was quoting in 2012 moobu2 Oct 2015 #56

I don't give a rat's patootie about what he said in 2012, the only thing that matters to me Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #57

A republican staged group proclaims Bernie the winner? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #59

As did, CNN as did Fusion as did Facebook, as did Tweets. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #60

Hey I'm sure this republican dude is just workinclasszero Oct 2015 #61

As I posted just before, It doesn't matter what Luntz would say, the only thing that matters Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #62

How should I know? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #63

I believe those were good people and telling their honest opinion. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #64

It's all part of the VRWC! The VRWC which the media played part in. The media that now sez.. frylock Oct 2015 #72

P.S. I'm just wondering why MSNBC didn't host a focus group, what were they afraid of? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #65