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Finally we have a Scientific Debate Poll and it show Hillary won by a wide margin [View all] stevenleser Oct 2015 OP

Are you sure you want to stake your reputation with Gravis Marketing? Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #1

Science! :) Babel_17 Oct 2015 #5

I dunno this stuff does whatever you want it to do..... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #49

They're not my favorite, but please post another scientific debate poll for comparison. stevenleser Oct 2015 #6

Nate Silver rates them a C workinclasszero Oct 2015 #50

automated telephone poll passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #63

Most telephone polls include cell phones these days. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #68

Not Steve's HAHAHA!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #89

Not this one. It's illegal to robo-dial cell phones. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #90

It used to be land lines only. Duppers Oct 2015 #94

Then, your call wouldn't have affected the numbers ... if you had been called. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #134

Oh, it might have affecteted the numbers, as I would have voted for Bernie. passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #135

No it wouldn't, regardless who you would have voted for ... You hang up. Remember? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #136

Yep, and if I didn't hang up, my vote would have counted for Bernie passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #137

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #138

Most scientific polls are telephone polls. You were expecting door-to-door? nt pnwmom Oct 2015 #65

Yes ma'am, I was referring to Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #86

No telephone poll has EVER been "scientific". bvar22 Oct 2015 #131

Ask the PhD statisticians who design them. But not all polls are created equal pnwmom Oct 2015 #133

Why not? 99Forever Oct 2015 #80

Yep Go Vols Oct 2015 #114

Not only that a2liberal Oct 2015 #110

bad poll, one cannot revote in it hundreds of times an hour nt msongs Oct 2015 #2

And from around the globe. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #7

that's gotta bum Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #100

The woo factor is low workinclasszero Oct 2015 #51

"760 registered Democratic voters" ucrdem Oct 2015 #3

I bet they are all corporate sellouts workinclasszero Oct 2015 #54

+1 Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #122

That same poll.....for the nomination ....Hillary 42 Bernie 34 virtualobserver Oct 2015 #4

Yeah, bad poll. Edited out misreading of respondents Godhumor Oct 2015 #17

The article says it was only registered Democratic voters. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #19

So it did, I misread Godhumor Oct 2015 #23

Agreed. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #126

LOL Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #132

WHOA HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #18

Ignore. I misread the respondents breakdown n/t Godhumor Oct 2015 #20

Is there a link to the actual poll anywhere? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #22

Up to the customer to decide to release full poll results for a sponsored poll Godhumor Oct 2015 #39

here ya go questionseverything Oct 2015 #43

Thanks, but that's a link to the article HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #48

"Trump Dominates One America News Network's National Poll" villager Oct 2015 #8

So, this is a poor job of trying to discredit a polling agency. I'll help you out stevenleser Oct 2015 #13

Actually, it's a pretty good job. You've already helped me out, by agreeing with a polling outfit villager Oct 2015 #21

you've done nothing except fail. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #24

Oh, Steve. That's a pitiful comeback even by your standards. villager Oct 2015 #25

There is no substance in your comment to address. It's what your post is worth. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #30

Well, there was no willingness to address the substance, certainly. nt villager Oct 2015 #35

Substance would be what I outlined in #13. Without it... stevenleser Oct 2015 #64

At least you're now accurately putting Gravis on a plane w/ the other internet polls villager Oct 2015 #71

Nope, it's much better than any internet poll. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #79

Since you agree with their accuracy, then you agree Trump is beating Clinton villager Oct 2015 #81

Straw man, however, most polls I've seen do have Trump ahead of Clinton right now. stevenleser Oct 2015 #101

Well, no, it's just that you agree that your candidate, for all her debate success, is trailing villager Oct 2015 #102

Now you are trying to change the subject. Sorry won't work. stevenleser Oct 2015 #109

Sorry, Steve. Your "selection" is suddenly touting the same Gravis co. that shows Clinton trailing villager Oct 2015 #113

He's takin' his ball, and he's goin' home. You don't play fair. nt cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #33

Can't have a discussion on a discussion site when one is so used to hit-and-run snarking! villager Oct 2015 #37

Speaking of failing....... 840high Oct 2015 #62

Nah, Steve they're right in this case. It is a sponsored poll Godhumor Oct 2015 #28

See my #27. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #31

Sure, bring science into it. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #9

And they were all Clinton voters once upon a time RobertEarl Oct 2015 #10

robert check the who would you vote for today graph questionseverything Oct 2015 #46

That's what the actual poll numbers will look like next week. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #11

Not a fan of the polling firm but we shallsee if othef polls confirm this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #12

The joke is, the folks who have spent the last 21 hrs defending Internet polls stevenleser Oct 2015 #27

It is hilarious to watch them try to convince us. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #36

You need to be convinced? retrowire Oct 2015 #66

Lol sorry but i don't buy this one bit. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #69

Whaaat retrowire Oct 2015 #70

Web polls are nothing. People wasting their time to make themselves feel better. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #72

Yeah, but you said you don't buy "any" of that... retrowire Oct 2015 #73

Focus groups can be manipulated. The other things metrics may shoe more interest in Sanders but hrmjustin Oct 2015 #74

Focus groups manipulated... retrowire Oct 2015 #75

What i find insulting here is Several Sanders supporters assuming i am following the lead of pundits hrmjustin Oct 2015 #77

I don't mean to offend, my apologies for assuming. retrowire Oct 2015 #82

the stuff you wrote about internet polls is complete voodoo dsc Oct 2015 #98

I need to be convinced of a number of things mythology Oct 2015 #99

Some of us haven't pointed to the Internet polls so much. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #42

+1 retrowire Oct 2015 #60

One faction Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #105

Irony eh? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #55

The mind, it is blown mcar Oct 2015 #85

It's hilarious how people will do a complete 180 like that, isn't it? arcane1 Oct 2015 #93

Cali_Democrat thinks your poll is "notoriously unreliable". cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #14

I've never been impressed with Gravis polling Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #38

You are quite welcome. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #44

Gravis Marketing is an arm of the corporate fascist plutocratic meany DLC wyldwolf Oct 2015 #15

Uhm... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #88

uhm wyldwolf Oct 2015 #91

Elaborate kenfrequed Oct 2015 #92

Wait. Are you really suggesting to disregard StrongBad Oct 2015 #104

Do you honestly believe people prefer trump to Hillary? kenfrequed Oct 2015 #118

Did you really think people preferred Reagan to Carter back in '80? Or Bush to Gore in '00? StrongBad Oct 2015 #120

I think we are in a different time period. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #125

It's just as plausible that Trump (or whoever the GOP nominee is) could beat Bernie. StrongBad Oct 2015 #129

Well, that was obvious to most. boston bean Oct 2015 #16

automated calls restorefreedom Oct 2015 #26

Thanks steve. Great to see some science. Hope a few more come out soon and we riversedge Oct 2015 #32

OANN is trying to out-Fox Fox News. aidbo Oct 2015 #34

See my #27 above. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #40

If I made an OP with a link.. aidbo Oct 2015 #57

Actually, Fox News polls are posted here occasionally and no, posters are not necessarily stevenleser Oct 2015 #61

excoriated. shmexcoriated. aidbo Oct 2015 #121

Wow, who knew, opinion is now called scientific. n/t Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #41

I think people should wait until more polls come out. tammywammy Oct 2015 #45

We've got another one and it also shows a 30 point margin for Hillary. stevenleser Oct 2015 #142

Finally!!!!! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #47

If that's the poll you want to go with..... RichVRichV Oct 2015 #52

A poll in which 59% of the respondents are age 50 and up favored Hillary? Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #53

Ageism? Really? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #56

What ageism? frylock Oct 2015 #95

And overwhelmingly white, only "slightly liberal." Scootaloo Oct 2015 #58

After 24 hours of corporate media spin. Could explain the results somewhat. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #59

Right. Because the people who are uprising with Sanders are so easily led astray. randome Oct 2015 #83

Not for nothing... ejbr Oct 2015 #67

15.2 people per state? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #76

That's pretty typical for national polls. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #84

It's like those polls where they ask 6 people in the red counties and six in the blue.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #96

Don't trust the source. artislife Oct 2015 #78

Good call. Internet polls with no methodology are superior. StrongBad Oct 2015 #106

I don't think you understand which source I am referring to...heh artislife Oct 2015 #107

I really don't. I guess you're referencing something I don't get. StrongBad Oct 2015 #108

Objectively, I thought she won. NT SCantiGOP Oct 2015 #87

First poll with a controlled sample so it beats the hell out of internet polls. Persondem Oct 2015 #97

Gravis isn't as highly regarded as some,but in the next couple sufrommich Oct 2015 #103

Yup. My guess is that Gravis is again off by 3-5 points and the numbers will instead be closer stevenleser Oct 2015 #111

Sure if you think that Hillary is up only 8 points over Sanders jfern Oct 2015 #112

I Wonder About the 1% Choosing Jim Webb nt Herman4747 Oct 2015 #115

This is a scientific poll, this doesn't count /sarcasm <--- cause this is needed around here uponit7771 Oct 2015 #116

Thanks for this.... BooScout Oct 2015 #117

Of course she did ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #119

People who don't like her voting to kill a million Iraqs n/t eridani Oct 2015 #124

only 30 percent of the people asked watched the debate SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2015 #123

Hillary has the wind at her back flamingdem Oct 2015 #127

Gravis Marketing: "The Worst Poll in America" Fearless Oct 2015 #128

Of course. nt BootinUp Oct 2015 #130

Because of media influence, we will never actually know who actually won the debate Bernblu Oct 2015 #139

That wasn't of people who saw the debate jfern Oct 2015 #140

If you want your poll to skew conservative, use landlines only Honeylies Oct 2015 #141