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Marty McGraw

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Thu Oct 15, 2015, 02:59 PM
Oct 2015

The Verdict is In: Bernie Sanders Wins First Democratic Debate by Huge Margin

October 14, 2015Timothy Bertrand Politics

https://reverbpress.com/politics/verdict-bernie-sanders-wins-first-democratic-debate-huge-margin/

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The web is buzzing after the first Democratic debate, and the big winner definitely seems to be Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. The candidate has been a surprise hit this primary election season, but has suffered from a lack of name recognition among mainstream Democrats — a problem that may all but vanish after his stellar performance at the debates.

A number of online outlets seem to indicate a majority of internet users believe Bernie Sanders won the debate. Google search data and gains in social media followers also support this outcome. One of the most significant victories comes from CNN’s Facebook poll, which declares Sanders as the winner with 82 percent of the vote. By contrast, Hillary Clinton managed to get 11 percent, Martin O’Malley got 4 percent, Jim Webb garnered 2 percent, and Lincoln Chafee took away one percent of the vote.

CNN FACEBOOK POLL: Bernie SANDERS WINS WITH 82 PERCENT

Smaller online polls also reflect a Bernie Sanders victory. A poll of Daily Kos readers has Sanders winning with 55 percent to Clinton’s 38 percent. O’Malley managed 2 percent, while Webb and Chafee tie for one.

DAILY KOS READER POLL: SANDERS WINS WITH 55 PERCENT

Local news stations also got in on the action with online polls of their own. Fox 5 San Diego has Bernie Sanders winning with 77.03 percent of the vote, compared to Clinton’s 15.34 percent. Webb edges out O’Malley with 3.43 to 2.61 percent, while Chafee doesn’t even crack one percent.

FOX 5 SAN DIEGO POLL: SANDERS WINS WITH 77 PERCENT

Likewise, the Knoxville News Sentinel has Sanders winning with 63 percent of the vote.

KNOXVILLE NEWS SENTINEL: SANDERS WINS WITH 63 PERCENT

The results are almost too overwhelming and numerous to list in their entirety. Readers of Time magazine said Bernie Sanders won 69% to 16%. Readers of the Telegraph likewise declared Sanders the winner. C-SPAN’s Facebook poll results were also overwhelmingly in favor of Sanders.

TIME, TELEGRAPH, AND C-SPAN POLLS DECLARE SANDERS THE WINNER

Critics will inevitably point to the unreliability of online polling, and they have a point. Sanders enjoys a large online following, and his grassroots campaigners have been known to swarm social media with support. The online polls, then, should be viewed as only one piece of evidence indicative of Sanders’ victory at the debates. There’s far more evidence at hand which supports this conclusion.

The majority of focus groups have likewise declared Bernie Sanders the winner. A group from the key swing state of Florida describes Sanders as “strong, straightforward, confident, sincere, smart and direct.” A Fusion focus group declared Sanders the winner 8 to 3. CNN’s focus group likewise declared Sanders the clear winner.

MAJORITY OF FOCUS GROUPS DECLARE SANDERS THE WINNER

Winning, however, is a somewhat difficult concept to define within the parameters of this debate. The candidate who “wins” does so not merely through popular opinion, but in terms of actual gains made to their campaign. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Sanders comes out on top in this aspect, as well.

GOOGLE SEARCH DATA SHOWS SPIKE IN INTEREST FOR SANDERS

Google search data confirms the candidate received massive traffic spikes for terms relating to him and his political ideology, while interest in Hillary Clinton remained stagnant. This wave of exposure will be reflected in the next round of national, scientific polls — and we will find out, once and for all, if Bernie Sanders’ ideas really do resonate deeply with the American public.

SANDERS CAMPAIGN RAISES $1.4 MILLION ON HEELS OF DEBATE

Bernie Sanders may have won in another important area: financially. According to a campaign email, Sanders raised $1.4 million from 44,000 individual donors on the heels of the debate. Those numbers aren’t just impressive, they’re unprecedented — nearly unheard of in modern American politics.

oh... an there is this

TELEVISION PUNDITS GIVE DEBATE TO HILLARY

Viewers of the debates may have noticed an odd phenomenon among the post-debate commentators . Despite CNN’s own polling reflecting otherwise, they overwhelmingly declared Clinton, not Sanders, the winner. The available data, however, seems to indicate otherwise.

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LOL! I always enjoy Senator Sanders slapping down foolishness from his 'supporters.' onehandle Oct 2015 #1
??? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #4
+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #6
LOL - accusatory non sequiturs are very much in vogue now w/ Hillary shills. -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #22
+1000 n/t MissDeeds Oct 2015 #47
The newest meme is to present lies as facts using non sequitur examples. Fearless Oct 2015 #43
It works, too, until you hit the social media hub. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #91
Diagnostic: Hallucination. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #86
Calling supporters of any candidate names isn't going to win them over. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #2
I agree it's not a conspiracy. Just shallow pack-behavior from the elites. Armstead Oct 2015 #3
Liberal bloggers aren't "elites". JaneyVee Oct 2015 #5
Chris Matthews, Chuck Todd, NYT, WaPo, etc. etc., etc. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #9
Yeah, NYT is totally in the tank for HRC. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #13
Of course it isn't. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #33
Apparently you missed this from the pages of the NYT tularetom Oct 2015 #53
The first line of that op-ed? "Hillary Clinton crushed it! There is no other way for me to put it." That Guy 888 Oct 2015 #69
DU enid602 Oct 2015 #10
"paid too much given the quality" - maybe they're in bed with those losers erronis Oct 2015 #42
Liberal boggers are all over the map on it Armstead Oct 2015 #12
And that's fine. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #92
+1,000 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #7
This!! Fawke Em Oct 2015 #11
You think the NYTimes, a paper who has plastered their front page JaneyVee Oct 2015 #15
Boggles the mind, doesn't it? mcar Oct 2015 #24
Oh, you understand journalism? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #39
I've been a PR professional for 35 mcar Oct 2015 #49
I've been an F1 driver for 10 years then got bored and am now an astronaut. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #72
Isn't that lovely mcar Oct 2015 #73
It is indeed! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #76
OK... but were you ever a reporter? Fawke Em Oct 2015 #93
Yes because of access. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #38
Yeah, that's totally what the NYT is doing. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #50
Another opinion about opinions that proves nothing. Dawgs Oct 2015 #8
What we see in the media is shock RobertEarl Oct 2015 #14
M$M's habit of ignoring Bernie has clearly not worked, and you're right, they are shocked 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #28
I love the inter-webs RobertEarl Oct 2015 #95
You are correct. HRC won in the eyes of the Billionaires but not the People. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #16
Where are you getting 80-15? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #25
CNN's Facebook poll, I think. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #31
LOL. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #34
Something something Goldman Sachs something something the People. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #30
I'll simply refer you to another OP 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #17
If you believe online polls I have nothing to say to you. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #20
We won, we won, we won artislife Oct 2015 #27
"5 more" Android3.14 Oct 2015 #56
. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #41
Unless they favor Clinton, which they do not AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #64
Oh look at all the unscientific BS internet push polls that a few hundred workinclasszero Oct 2015 #23
Push Polls 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #37
Those numbers are so unbalanced you'd have to live under a dictatorship to think they're normal. Metric System Oct 2015 #35
. 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #44
Let's put it this way...even people who didn't watch the debate could vote, including multiple times Metric System Oct 2015 #48
LOL!!! Oh sure, Hillary was the victim of another conspiracy! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #65
"could vote, including multiple times if they felt inclined." BeanMusical Oct 2015 #75
They can't help it passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #67
Why are Hillary supporters so obsessed with "disproving" the validity of these online polls? virtualobserver Oct 2015 #18
"Who cares" is precisely my opinion. Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #26
Because people are using unscientific bullshit to attempt to shape public opinion. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #32
Indeed, pundit blathering is extremely unscientific Fumesucker Oct 2015 #36
They do not see it. They can't artislife Oct 2015 #71
Blindsight Fumesucker Oct 2015 #97
Gee, Fume, that sounds kind of....scientific! nt artislife Oct 2015 #99
people are also promoting blathering pundits in an attemot to shaoe public opinion virtualobserver Oct 2015 #60
I'm not a Clinton supporter (I don't care who wins) mythology Oct 2015 #57
it isn't incorrect.....it measures something.....it measures intensity virtualobserver Oct 2015 #62
Word on the street is...its a vast DLC conspiracy workinclasszero Oct 2015 #19
The MSM couldn't wait to declare Hillary the loser. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #21
Roflmao!!! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #80
No, it's the Establishment being the establisment.... paleotn Oct 2015 #63
Yep. "They paid good money... ". LOL. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #94
More foaming flamebait whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #29
Bernie didn't even show up Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #40
Why is the bird in your avatar shitting on Obama? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #83
Amanda Marcotte at Salon is not even close to being an objective voice on this issue. Maedhros Oct 2015 #45
Corporations would never do that! AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #46
Wow, Salon gets off the anti-Hillary shtick for once shenmue Oct 2015 #51
We know that Clinton won the debate with the Corporate Media. There was some evidence that Sanders Bernblu Oct 2015 #52
And there goes Amanda Marcotte under the bus for not drinking the Kool-Aid... stevenleser Oct 2015 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #55
( ._.) Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #58
a little more for good measure MisterP Oct 2015 #66
because i believe in transparency....... restorefreedom Oct 2015 #59
Yeah! Wots up wit dat? Accusing the pundits of conspiracy? Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #61
LOL. I love this stuff! Keep digging your own grave, corporate media! n/t mhatrw Oct 2015 #68
Agreed Aerows Oct 2015 #70
I'll use lots and lots of "scare quotes", Marcotte sniffs Matariki Oct 2015 #74
It was hilarious watching them try to sell online polls. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #77
"It was hilarious watching them try to sell onoine polls." BeanMusical Oct 2015 #81
Absolutely nothing. I particularly like red onion polls. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #82
OK, but there's also nothing hilarious about it. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #84
Mea culpa! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #85
I forgive you my son. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #87
This is too funny. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #88
Lol, yes it is. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #89
Do you feel better for floriduck Oct 2015 #78
Posted to for later. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #79
Of course there is. Media bias and propaganda. WDIM Oct 2015 #90
Marcotte: sinister scheming Papists behind claims of dislike of Clinton MisterP Oct 2015 #96
If we believe the media, Bush won all the debates in 2000 jfern Oct 2015 #98
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