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passiveporcupine

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137. Yep, and if I didn't hang up, my vote would have counted for Bernie
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:28 PM
Oct 2015

And how many others like me hang up, before they even find out it's a poll? And how many of those votes might have been for Bernie?

You see, authoritarian type people, like the people who seem to be attracted to authoritarian type politicians like Hillary, may be more inclined to answer the phone and participate in the poll. People like me, who don't necessarily follow all the rules, don't always play societies games, like answering random phone calls and talking to people they don't know.

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Are you sure you want to stake your reputation with Gravis Marketing? Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #1
Science! :) Babel_17 Oct 2015 #5
I dunno this stuff does whatever you want it to do..... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #49
They're not my favorite, but please post another scientific debate poll for comparison. stevenleser Oct 2015 #6
Nate Silver rates them a C workinclasszero Oct 2015 #50
automated telephone poll passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #63
Most telephone polls include cell phones these days. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #68
Not Steve's HAHAHA!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #89
Not this one. It's illegal to robo-dial cell phones. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #90
It used to be land lines only. Duppers Oct 2015 #94
Then, your call wouldn't have affected the numbers ... if you had been called. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #134
Oh, it might have affecteted the numbers, as I would have voted for Bernie. passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #135
No it wouldn't, regardless who you would have voted for ... You hang up. Remember? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #136
Yep, and if I didn't hang up, my vote would have counted for Bernie passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #137
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #138
Most scientific polls are telephone polls. You were expecting door-to-door? nt pnwmom Oct 2015 #65
Yes ma'am, I was referring to Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #86
No telephone poll has EVER been "scientific". bvar22 Oct 2015 #131
Ask the PhD statisticians who design them. But not all polls are created equal pnwmom Oct 2015 #133
Why not? 99Forever Oct 2015 #80
Yep Go Vols Oct 2015 #114
Not only that a2liberal Oct 2015 #110
bad poll, one cannot revote in it hundreds of times an hour nt msongs Oct 2015 #2
And from around the globe. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #7
that's gotta bum Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #100
The woo factor is low workinclasszero Oct 2015 #51
"760 registered Democratic voters" ucrdem Oct 2015 #3
I bet they are all corporate sellouts workinclasszero Oct 2015 #54
+1 Jamaal510 Oct 2015 #122
That same poll.....for the nomination ....Hillary 42 Bernie 34 virtualobserver Oct 2015 #4
Yeah, bad poll. Edited out misreading of respondents Godhumor Oct 2015 #17
The article says it was only registered Democratic voters. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #19
So it did, I misread Godhumor Oct 2015 #23
Agreed. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #126
LOL Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #132
WHOA HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #18
Ignore. I misread the respondents breakdown n/t Godhumor Oct 2015 #20
Is there a link to the actual poll anywhere? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #22
Up to the customer to decide to release full poll results for a sponsored poll Godhumor Oct 2015 #39
here ya go questionseverything Oct 2015 #43
Thanks, but that's a link to the article HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #48
"Trump Dominates One America News Network's National Poll" villager Oct 2015 #8
So, this is a poor job of trying to discredit a polling agency. I'll help you out stevenleser Oct 2015 #13
Actually, it's a pretty good job. You've already helped me out, by agreeing with a polling outfit villager Oct 2015 #21
you've done nothing except fail. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #24
Oh, Steve. That's a pitiful comeback even by your standards. villager Oct 2015 #25
There is no substance in your comment to address. It's what your post is worth. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #30
Well, there was no willingness to address the substance, certainly. nt villager Oct 2015 #35
Substance would be what I outlined in #13. Without it... stevenleser Oct 2015 #64
At least you're now accurately putting Gravis on a plane w/ the other internet polls villager Oct 2015 #71
Nope, it's much better than any internet poll. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #79
Since you agree with their accuracy, then you agree Trump is beating Clinton villager Oct 2015 #81
Straw man, however, most polls I've seen do have Trump ahead of Clinton right now. stevenleser Oct 2015 #101
Well, no, it's just that you agree that your candidate, for all her debate success, is trailing villager Oct 2015 #102
Now you are trying to change the subject. Sorry won't work. stevenleser Oct 2015 #109
Sorry, Steve. Your "selection" is suddenly touting the same Gravis co. that shows Clinton trailing villager Oct 2015 #113
He's takin' his ball, and he's goin' home. You don't play fair. nt cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #33
Can't have a discussion on a discussion site when one is so used to hit-and-run snarking! villager Oct 2015 #37
Speaking of failing....... 840high Oct 2015 #62
Nah, Steve they're right in this case. It is a sponsored poll Godhumor Oct 2015 #28
See my #27. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #31
Sure, bring science into it. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #9
And they were all Clinton voters once upon a time RobertEarl Oct 2015 #10
robert check the who would you vote for today graph questionseverything Oct 2015 #46
That's what the actual poll numbers will look like next week. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #11
Not a fan of the polling firm but we shallsee if othef polls confirm this. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #12
The joke is, the folks who have spent the last 21 hrs defending Internet polls stevenleser Oct 2015 #27
It is hilarious to watch them try to convince us. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #36
You need to be convinced? retrowire Oct 2015 #66
Lol sorry but i don't buy this one bit. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #69
Whaaat retrowire Oct 2015 #70
Web polls are nothing. People wasting their time to make themselves feel better. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #72
Yeah, but you said you don't buy "any" of that... retrowire Oct 2015 #73
Focus groups can be manipulated. The other things metrics may shoe more interest in Sanders but hrmjustin Oct 2015 #74
Focus groups manipulated... retrowire Oct 2015 #75
What i find insulting here is Several Sanders supporters assuming i am following the lead of pundits hrmjustin Oct 2015 #77
I don't mean to offend, my apologies for assuming. retrowire Oct 2015 #82
the stuff you wrote about internet polls is complete voodoo dsc Oct 2015 #98
I need to be convinced of a number of things mythology Oct 2015 #99
Some of us haven't pointed to the Internet polls so much. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #42
+1 retrowire Oct 2015 #60
One faction Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #105
Irony eh? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #55
The mind, it is blown mcar Oct 2015 #85
It's hilarious how people will do a complete 180 like that, isn't it? arcane1 Oct 2015 #93
Cali_Democrat thinks your poll is "notoriously unreliable". cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #14
I've never been impressed with Gravis polling Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #38
You are quite welcome. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #44
Gravis Marketing is an arm of the corporate fascist plutocratic meany DLC wyldwolf Oct 2015 #15
Uhm... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #88
uhm wyldwolf Oct 2015 #91
Elaborate kenfrequed Oct 2015 #92
Wait. Are you really suggesting to disregard StrongBad Oct 2015 #104
Do you honestly believe people prefer trump to Hillary? kenfrequed Oct 2015 #118
Did you really think people preferred Reagan to Carter back in '80? Or Bush to Gore in '00? StrongBad Oct 2015 #120
I think we are in a different time period. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #125
It's just as plausible that Trump (or whoever the GOP nominee is) could beat Bernie. StrongBad Oct 2015 #129
Well, that was obvious to most. boston bean Oct 2015 #16
automated calls restorefreedom Oct 2015 #26
Thanks steve. Great to see some science. Hope a few more come out soon and we riversedge Oct 2015 #32
OANN is trying to out-Fox Fox News. aidbo Oct 2015 #34
See my #27 above. Nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #40
If I made an OP with a link.. aidbo Oct 2015 #57
Actually, Fox News polls are posted here occasionally and no, posters are not necessarily stevenleser Oct 2015 #61
excoriated. shmexcoriated. aidbo Oct 2015 #121
Wow, who knew, opinion is now called scientific. n/t Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #41
I think people should wait until more polls come out. tammywammy Oct 2015 #45
We've got another one and it also shows a 30 point margin for Hillary. stevenleser Oct 2015 #142
Finally!!!!! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #47
If that's the poll you want to go with..... RichVRichV Oct 2015 #52
A poll in which 59% of the respondents are age 50 and up favored Hillary? Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #53
Ageism? Really? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #56
What ageism? frylock Oct 2015 #95
And overwhelmingly white, only "slightly liberal." Scootaloo Oct 2015 #58
After 24 hours of corporate media spin. Could explain the results somewhat. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #59
Right. Because the people who are uprising with Sanders are so easily led astray. randome Oct 2015 #83
Not for nothing... ejbr Oct 2015 #67
15.2 people per state? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #76
That's pretty typical for national polls. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #84
It's like those polls where they ask 6 people in the red counties and six in the blue.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #96
Don't trust the source. artislife Oct 2015 #78
Good call. Internet polls with no methodology are superior. StrongBad Oct 2015 #106
I don't think you understand which source I am referring to...heh artislife Oct 2015 #107
I really don't. I guess you're referencing something I don't get. StrongBad Oct 2015 #108
Objectively, I thought she won. NT SCantiGOP Oct 2015 #87
First poll with a controlled sample so it beats the hell out of internet polls. Persondem Oct 2015 #97
Gravis isn't as highly regarded as some,but in the next couple sufrommich Oct 2015 #103
Yup. My guess is that Gravis is again off by 3-5 points and the numbers will instead be closer stevenleser Oct 2015 #111
Sure if you think that Hillary is up only 8 points over Sanders jfern Oct 2015 #112
I Wonder About the 1% Choosing Jim Webb nt Herman4747 Oct 2015 #115
This is a scientific poll, this doesn't count /sarcasm <--- cause this is needed around here uponit7771 Oct 2015 #116
Thanks for this.... BooScout Oct 2015 #117
Of course she did ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #119
People who don't like her voting to kill a million Iraqs n/t eridani Oct 2015 #124
only 30 percent of the people asked watched the debate SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2015 #123
Hillary has the wind at her back flamingdem Oct 2015 #127
Gravis Marketing: "The Worst Poll in America" Fearless Oct 2015 #128
Of course. nt BootinUp Oct 2015 #130
Because of media influence, we will never actually know who actually won the debate Bernblu Oct 2015 #139
That wasn't of people who saw the debate jfern Oct 2015 #140
If you want your poll to skew conservative, use landlines only Honeylies Oct 2015 #141
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