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StevieM

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66. It's not that they don't mean anything, it's just that they can't be accurately used to proclaim who

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:13 PM

Oct 2015

won a given debate.

You need to use scientific sampling methods that are part of established polling methods.

I have seen a couple of scientific polls since the debate, one which had Sanders winning, the other had Clinton winning.

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If Facebook likes or votes mean nothing, why did Hillary spend $630,000 on [View all] Uncle Joe Oct 2015 OP

Oh good God! hrmjustin Oct 2015 #1

Some people think so but that's not an answer. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #3

I think you guys need to move on. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #4

This is my home, I'm not going anywhere. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #8

You know what I meant. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #11

The wasting of the peoples's money on Facebook is just symptomatic and a probable Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #25

Shark jump alert. Darb Oct 2015 #55

Here's some more shark jumping for you. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #60

Incredible, isn't it? I used to think doubling down on being wrong was just a RW thing...... Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #40

Following her 2008 modus operandi... CoffeeCat Oct 2015 #62

LOL, shocking I agree! Nt Logical Oct 2015 #81

Bernie has social media interest growing like wildfire, just like his grassroots campaign peacebird Oct 2015 #2

I agree, peacebird, there is no mistake regarding the Internet's impact, people that do so Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #28

Image. Like it or not it's important. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #5

Yeah, the image she's creating is that she's a fake and a phony. reformist2 Oct 2015 #10

Let's don't bother to pretend this is an intelligent discussion anymore shenmue Oct 2015 #50

She has 60% unfavorable numbers nationally for a reason. Denying it won't do any of us any good. reformist2 Oct 2015 #54

If Facebook had a "Dislike" button, I'd open an account. Fuddnik Oct 2015 #76

Oh well thats totally different demwing Oct 2015 #6

Hmm... educationviews.org. Wonder what else is on that site. DanTex Oct 2015 #7

That's not the subject of the OP, here's another link if it makes you feel better. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #12

I just find it interesting what websites Hillary bashers frequent. DanTex Oct 2015 #13

Well that's a mistake on your part, I don't frequent it. I just Googled DU for a previous thread Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #19

You know the difference, right? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #9

Ads got thousands of likes from Bangladesh, Malaysia and Iraq? HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #14

you have a problem with Spanish in the high school curriculum? Same site is whining about that. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #17

Non sequitur. She has more likes in Bagdad than any US city. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #23

Don't forget Myanmar! Joey Joe Joe Oct 2015 #45

It was a deliberate astroturf attempt Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #16

So? That's called ADVERTISING wyldwolf Oct 2015 #18

I call it wasting the peoples' money and it was changed afterwards. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #21

write your congressman, LOL. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #22

I don't need to now, apparently they changed it but I'm curious about the second question on Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #26

annnnnnd crickets. i love it. some hillary supporters always seem to do this. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #41

I've asked this same question five times on D.U. and nobody has an answer or they don't want Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #43

Hey, I understand retrowire Oct 2015 #46

Have you read this yet, retrowire? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #48

I haven't and retrowire Oct 2015 #49

There it is... haikugal Oct 2015 #106

Buying Likes isn't advertising Jackilope Oct 2015 #59

IF Hillary had the support Bernie has on Social Media and all over the country, you can be sure sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #15

Who has more twitter, snapchat, and instagram followers? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #30

Bernie! peacebird Oct 2015 #34

Really? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #36

Yes, really. Bernie has far more supporters on internet than Hillary peacebird Oct 2015 #37

Twitter Action_Patrol Oct 2015 #57

Instagram 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #72

Link? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #85

Yeah....Instagram 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #86

No, I asked you for the link. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #87

You can't find Instagram on your own? 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #88

Do you understand the concept of 'burden of proof'? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #89

Ah, I see 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #93

And I also see. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #94

Your commitment to the search for truth is admirable 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #95

Nor the 10 seconds it would presumably take you to post the link you must already have. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #96

No, I went, looked, posted and moved on 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #97

It's interesting that you found such a thing, because a Google search doesn't return it. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #98

OK< I thought I was done, but I have to ask 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #99

You obviously got those numbers somewhere, if they're legit. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #100

No, as I've already told you 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #102

When one doesn't have an iPhone, one can't 'go look'. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #103

See, now if you had one 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #105

Yes, those numbers are correct. TM99 Oct 2015 #104

As a Hillary supporter I can assure you that if someone pointed to an unscientific poll StevieM Oct 2015 #65

This. Most people understand what click bait polls are sufrommich Oct 2015 #90

Good for Bernie that Facebook is running the elections!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #20

Facebook is just one segment of the Internet which as an Institution overwhelmingly believed Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #31

Facebook is on its way to AOL status. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #53

The Internet is an Institution that's not stating that all aspects of it are the same but the Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #58

Only Bernie camp uses 'likes' and on line polls Sheepshank Oct 2015 #24

Then why does Hillary pay for so many fake followers? frylock Oct 2015 #38

+1 n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #42

"Fad"vertising Sheepshank Oct 2015 #61

The Bernie crowd is comparing the number of people who follow him on social media.. frylock Oct 2015 #80

+1.nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #64

And Sanders upped his presence with a twitter buy on debate night. Control-Z Oct 2015 #27

He bought a twitter ad, did Hillary? Or is she relying on old media? peacebird Oct 2015 #35

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You For The Thread Uncle Joe !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #29

Peace to you, WillyT Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #32

And To You... WillyT Oct 2015 #33

OMG!!! Seriously?? Laser102 Oct 2015 #39

Something wrong with scrutinizing our candidates? retrowire Oct 2015 #44

It's GDP. It's all flamebait, all the time. shenmue Oct 2015 #51

she better buy a lot more reddread Oct 2015 #47

+1000! LMAO lol n/t Catherina Oct 2015 #69

Oops! Lol! Thank you Uncle Joe! Good question. More of that hypocrisy we see now on a regular sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #52

Have you seen this, sabrina? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #56

K & R Duppers Oct 2015 #63

It's not that they don't mean anything, it's just that they can't be accurately used to proclaim who StevieM Oct 2015 #66

Do you have links to them, StevieM? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #68

I have a link to one of them. StevieM Oct 2015 #82

I've seen that Gravis poll, many people here don't have great faith in their integrity, Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #83

That was more than two years ago, and it wasn't just "peoples' money" (sneakily implying tax money). George II Oct 2015 #67

Do you know where the money came from? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #70

$630,000 on astroturf likes? LMAO Catherina Oct 2015 #71

Thank you, Catherina. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #74

That IS a good question rosesaylavee Oct 2015 #73

Thank you, rosesaylavee. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #75

Geeze, it's called advertising BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #77

Because that isn't the same thing? mythology Oct 2015 #78

You mean like this one which I already posted upthread. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #79

Exactly............ KoKo Oct 2015 #92

There's a lot of questionable sources used here sufrommich Oct 2015 #91

They also collectively never vote in online polls AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #84

What the fuck was she thinking? azmom Oct 2015 #101