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thesquanderer

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46. I had the same confusion.

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:45 AM

Oct 2015

In a quick reading, at first I actually thought the OP was him or herself "Questioning if a majority of AA voters are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome because the democrat they support in the primary is outright racist" -- that is, I missed the crucial word "of" -- and thought, what candidate are they talking about? What candidate does this poster think is racist? But then I figured it out. Yeah, the OP is talking about some other post. I didn't see the original post, and none of the provided links point to it, so I actually don't know exactly what this person is talking about, I don't know the context. Not sure why its an OP rather than a reply to the apparently offensive thread in question. But apparently someone is (again) accusing HRC of being racist and saying that AAs should not support her. Which I think is ridiculous, even though I'm a Bernie supporter.

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Questioning if a majority of AA voters are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.... [View all] NCTraveler Oct 2015 OP

And yet the post was not hidden or self deleted leftofcool Oct 2015 #1

I must have missed this post brush Oct 2015 #34

I believe this is the link in question... stevenleser Oct 2015 #57

Thanks! brush Oct 2015 #68

I had a feeling it was that one Dem2 Oct 2015 #118

On a jury, I'd probably "leave," though. The reason is that discourse Hortensis Oct 2015 #173

Pathetic is the best word to describe it (and other posts). nt betsuni Oct 2015 #35

What do you expect? Florencenj2point0 Oct 2015 #40

"Democratic Party Haters"??? Wouldn't that be Third Wayers? Jackilope Oct 2015 #47

What you call "third-way' is the majority of the party ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #59

Third Way? 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #76

No, "third way" on the DU means any Democrat to the right of Nader ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #223

LOL AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #236

Laugh right up to the elections ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #250

Name one right wing policy that is good for the country AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #256

The ACA is good for the country ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #259

The 'Third way' are corporate/Oligarchic Dems AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #260

Ah, "corporate"... in other words, pro-economic opportunity ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #262

Nobody here hates the Democratic Party. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #66

I've never met a 3rd way Democrat Dem2 Oct 2015 #120

Not helpful Dem2 Oct 2015 #119

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #196

yeah, welcome to DU grasswire Oct 2015 #212

Pathetic is right workinclasszero Oct 2015 #125

It's an embarrassment to DU Renew Deal Oct 2015 #128

I agree. It was offensive in the extreme. MADem Oct 2015 #2

They get it, they just don't care. leftofcool Oct 2015 #4

It's a crying shame. MADem Oct 2015 #151

It's really stupid too. Could cause Sanders votes. brush Oct 2015 #72

Well stuff that you suggest it might as well come right and said ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #75

1StrongBlackMan, why do you keep insinuating PoC supporting Sanders aren't really PoC? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #88

Because the internet is anonymous and ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #101

So you feel you are entitled to accuse them of blackface, whether you know or not Scootaloo Oct 2015 #107

NO ... I feel entitled to QUESTION whether they are what they purport to be ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #116

I see. So people of color must comport to your expectations to "count" Scootaloo Oct 2015 #117

Okay ... If that is what you wish to take from this exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #123

It's what you're delivering. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #130

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #140

Inappropriate Dem2 Oct 2015 #124

I agree. He needs to stop doing it. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #131

Nobody brought up "blackface" but you. Stick with the facts. brush Oct 2015 #153

When you accuse people of color of being white people pretending to be people of color... Scootaloo Oct 2015 #155

Not going to argue with you. Been there, done that. brush Oct 2015 #157

Skepticism LanternWaste Oct 2015 #263

The Internet is anonymous, isn't it? Have we met? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #232

That is exactly my point! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #243

Based on your response, I believe you missed my point. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #244

Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #245

Absolutely. Anyone who is different from the herd must be culled. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #246

I edited my response to include ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #247

I was trying to be kind. MADem Oct 2015 #134

Guess my skin is pretty leatherized nc4bo Oct 2015 #3

I somewhat agree. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #5

I was telling someone on here yesterday nc4bo Oct 2015 #12

Accusing a majority of AA voters of suffering from a mental issue.... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #18

It is a "psychological phenomenon", not a "mental issue". Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #69

"It is a "psychological phenomenon", not a "mental issue"." NCTraveler Oct 2015 #79

I agree to that. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #137

Exactly. nt MADem Oct 2015 #143

"Issue" is not a synonym for "defect." I think it is an issue of the mind, therefore, the use of MADem Oct 2015 #136

Unintentional racism, the bastard stepchild of instutional racism. Half-Century Man Oct 2015 #139

It's a close cousin to that "privilege" thing happening. MADem Oct 2015 #147

It's like when Republicans refer to the Democratic Party as a "plantation" Prism Oct 2015 #21

I don't stay around in here long enough. mmonk Oct 2015 #6

Does it matter? Do you need to know the person to form an opinion? NCTraveler Oct 2015 #7

Your explanation helps. A poster. mmonk Oct 2015 #11

BTW, if you had started your post with the word someone, I would not have mmonk Oct 2015 #30

I had the same confusion. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #46

Thanks. Good to know I wasn't the only one. mmonk Oct 2015 #50

Yes, this OP is meta. nt artislife Oct 2015 #58

It is a discussion about racism being used in an attempt to make points for a candidate. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #67

I don't think it is Meta at all JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #95

Meta, what a fucking god damn insult that is...FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! randys1 Oct 2015 #104

Hmm - I really like Art Is Life's mind JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #105

Read above reply artislife Oct 2015 #145

I admit, racism is more important to some than others randys1 Oct 2015 #158

I am Latina artislife Oct 2015 #144

I feel arguments can be well made... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #230

I don't agree JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #92

Okay then. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt . . . brush Oct 2015 #154

Hillary supporters now claim that reminding people of Hillary's racist gaffes is itself racist. Romulox Oct 2015 #8

No. That isn't what I said at all. Not sure how you even arrived at that thought. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #9

Explain it to me like I'm five. nt Romulox Oct 2015 #14

No one should have to. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #15

I am not defending arguments I haven't made. I am asking for support for your accusation. Romulox Oct 2015 #16

Wish I could help you more. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #20

I think the "it's so obvious I can't explain it" argument speaks for itself. nt Romulox Oct 2015 #22

I did explain it. You don't get it. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #29

Quotes need to have the *actual words a person said/typed*. Why type something different? Romulox Oct 2015 #31

I don't think you're getting through despite your best efforts. George II Oct 2015 #37

Their deflection and contortions show just how much it got through to them. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #39

Hah! Better Alex than Stephen Harper or Rob Ford (or Justin Bieber for that matter!) George II Oct 2015 #41

You did quite well here. You risked your existence here, to talk about truth. randys1 Oct 2015 #106

"Risked your existence." NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #112

No - its apt considering JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #252

He doesn't think that questioning JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #251

Also, did the OP bristle at the "white supremacist liberal" smears? I seemed to have missed it! nt Romulox Oct 2015 #17

Minor difference between those. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #55

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #81

It's easy to miss a thing if it doesn't implicitly validate a bias... LanternWaste Oct 2015 #266

Respectfully if that is your position then I will only talk to hard working white people Fumesucker Oct 2015 #10

Loathsome! You remembered Hillary's racism. And that makes *you* loathsome! Romulox Oct 2015 #13

I don't think they are "loathsome." NCTraveler Oct 2015 #25

Even if Hillary's campaign had tinges of "racism" (which is wasn't) that..... George II Oct 2015 #43

Actually Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #102

But first he referenced Queen Latifah! JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #253

Actually, he said "Queen Latifa"... zappaman Oct 2015 #257

I agree in part and dissent in part from my dear friend, NCTraveler. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #19

I'm not sure I can agree with you here. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #23

Let me try it this way and be blunt... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Oct 2015 #38

Let's not forget that the OP was also homophobic and treated LGBT to the same short shrift Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #27

He holds out anybody who doesn't support the candidate he supports for censure. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #32

Except that I support Bernie, my complaints about that poster are not about primary choices at all. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #44

Agreed. There's also residual goodwill from Bill Clinton's admin brush Oct 2015 #78

I think people forget how incredibly good the economy in the 90s was, for everybody... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #82

And this is someting the "Clintons are evil" crowd refuse to see Number23 Oct 2015 #192

This chart is amazing DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #198

Thanks for sharing that. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #231

No no no. Intentional. Bad! Bad poster. Will never change. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #74

Zealous advocacy can cloud your thinking. Go watch a civil case where big $$$ are involved. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #77

Awful. It's what happens when you live in a bubble. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #24

I'm a gay woman, and the OP in that thread referenced gay people as well. cwydro Oct 2015 #28

That op did reference others as well and I did question them about that in a reply to their op. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #33

I will say that I certainly can see how it can be taken as racist. cwydro Oct 2015 #36

I do not belive the intention is support of Sanders at all. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #45

That's a good point. cwydro Oct 2015 #48

This should be brought to the attention of the owners of the board workinclasszero Oct 2015 #42

Racist and disgusting. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #49

Can someone tell me what AA is supposed to stand for here? Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2015 #51

African American. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #52

Thank You Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2015 #54

no problem!! m-lekktor Oct 2015 #56

The USA is full of people voting against their own self interests. Wake Up! Jackilope Oct 2015 #53

Says another 63-post wonder shenmue Oct 2015 #61

The USA is full of people voting against their own self interest. SoapBox Oct 2015 #64

You do realize that YOU do not get to define MY interests, right? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #83

Throw the mic! JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #93

See my expanded response in Post 108 ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #110

With all due respect, KS is not doing so hot and maybe not best example. Jackilope Oct 2015 #100

You are missing they point ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #108

Good points n/t JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #133

I am trying to understand and hope you can help me here. Jackilope Oct 2015 #141

All of this has been discussed at length, here ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #146

Let's cut through this bullshit right here. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #149

Harassing? How so? If you follow the conversation.... Jackilope Oct 2015 #162

Your question to 1SBM Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #167

Actually, I am a Martin O'Malley supporter ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #169

She. Jackilope Oct 2015 #170

Sincere my black ass... Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #181

WTH, Chitown. Not sure what your issue is .... Jackilope Oct 2015 #183

Have you read through the African-American Group posts, yet? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #188

Not in entirety, but getting your message in some key posts and articles. Jackilope Oct 2015 #208

Because, of course, EVERY Black person is a HRC supporters ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #184

Boom! Skidmore Oct 2015 #165

Gotta start somewhere.... Jackilope Oct 2015 #71

See Post #83. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #84

you embarrass yourself. m-lekktor Oct 2015 #97

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #166

I hate snobbery against new posters. cwydro Oct 2015 #177

You make some very valid points. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #63

I can understand that and realize that targeting or singling out AA is harsh. Jackilope Oct 2015 #109

Harsh? It's gawd damn racist! leftofcool Oct 2015 #129

Honestly, When looking at term "Stockholm Syndrome" Jackilope Oct 2015 #138

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #86

I like your last line. Glad you were able to say it, so far at least. randys1 Oct 2015 #115

Me too Person 2713 Oct 2015 #255

Who is the Democrat that made the comment, and what was said? Martin Eden Oct 2015 #60

Maybe I'm not understanding your question; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #94

I didn't see that in the OP Martin Eden Oct 2015 #103

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #113

Thank you for posting. I did not see this earlier. It is not appropriate post. Jackilope Oct 2015 #142

The thread is Meta,but the OP posted 4 links to other sites in order to pretend that it is not Meta kath Oct 2015 #229

I found the thread this one is referencing..... BooScout Oct 2015 #62

Not to mention Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #65

This is a blatantly racist post and reflects poorly on DU cosmicone Oct 2015 #70

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2015 #189

I notice you lack offense when a Clinton supporter declares that clinton owns LGBT and black people Scootaloo Oct 2015 #73

My outrage isn't even close to selective. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #85

Here you go Scootaloo Oct 2015 #87

You clearly didn't read my post. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #89

You said you're not selective. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #90

Not one single person supported the op you linked to. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #91

You said you would condemn it. You are refusing to do so. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #96

Perhaps, you will share where ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #98

This is ridiculous. Alleged liberals are now lecturing Black pepole what is best for them and many randys1 Oct 2015 #114

In my view ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #121

Yeah, I skipped over that, you are right, this is WAY racist, WAY over the top BUT, BUT --- randys1 Oct 2015 #122

What kind of privilege is involved in stripping people's identities... Scootaloo Oct 2015 #160

A.why dont you ask him...B. prove it randys1 Oct 2015 #161

I have. And you can go read it, starting at post #75 Scootaloo Oct 2015 #163

Why are you arguing with me? there are BLACK people telling you something is randys1 Oct 2015 #164

I said no such thing, did I? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #168

It's definitely selective outrage, or this they'd be mad at this thread jfern Oct 2015 #176

Did I read this correctly? JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #254

Do you doubt that there are posers on this site? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #191

I KNOW you don't have the entitlement to tell anyone that they're not. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #220

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #224

Clinton supporter declares that Clinton owns LGBT and black people here jfern Oct 2015 #175

Social justice issues are poisoned on DU Prism Oct 2015 #135

Yes. This ^^^^^^^^^ Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #148

interesting read!! nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #179

Posting for response later. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #190

Please don't waste your time. Number23 Oct 2015 #200

I think you are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #205

Some people have made chasing after black posters here a full time gig Number23 Oct 2015 #206

Results from Number2 Major Nikon Oct 2015 #214

Thanks, Major. Number23 Oct 2015 #216

alert results/EDIT/ forgot alerters comment irisblue Oct 2015 #207

Oh my God!! Number23 Oct 2015 #209

Doubled down Major Nikon Oct 2015 #215

The problem here Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #199

I'll just be blunt Prism Oct 2015 #210

Oh, honey, now waitaminute Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #217

alert results Bryce Butler Oct 2015 #226

I think most liberals want both jfern Oct 2015 #211

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Oct 2015 #233

Red Herring deflection and the OP isn't the racism police nor do they have to live on DU to point uponit7771 Oct 2015 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author randome Oct 2015 #80

kick for truth Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #99

You find racist comments truthful? leftofcool Oct 2015 #132

Yeah, it's pretty bad HassleCat Oct 2015 #111

And for most of the AfAm people I know it isnt even about loyalty to anybody, especially Hillary randys1 Oct 2015 #126

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #195

Excellent post Dem2 Oct 2015 #127

Thank you. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #172

My understanding is they're supprised everyone else doesn't hate Hillary or love Sanders as much uponit7771 Oct 2015 #186

k&r Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #150

Did you alert on it? n/t moondust Oct 2015 #152

You can only fool people into voting against their own self interest for so long AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #156

And you can only harass and insult people into voting Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #159

Which is what has been happening with Hillary AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #171

What does that even mean? Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #174

It means you are projecting AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #194

LOL Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #197

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #239

Self delete Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #178

How about asking PoC and LGBT why they support Hillary and not degrade their intelligence first? uponit7771 Oct 2015 #185

The corporate interest is in no ones best interest AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #235

Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #202

There's plenty of hyperbole to go around here Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #180

That post fucking sucked, as does the poster. Codeine Oct 2015 #182

This is correct. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #213

29 people rec'd that racist ass'd thread too... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #193

I see you questioning whether the post was racist or not because a few white posters said that it Number23 Oct 2015 #201

Who would do such a thing?!!? zappaman Oct 2015 #203

I am confused as to the issue here: guillaumeb Oct 2015 #204

Not at all... MellowDem Oct 2015 #218

Link and quote AA's being conservative also. It's TECHNICALLY racist to deride a whole group of uponit7771 Oct 2015 #219

There are polls showing African Americans... MellowDem Oct 2015 #221

Could you source them? I've not seen one of those polls ever... not saying they don't exist just uponit7771 Oct 2015 #222

Here jfern Oct 2015 #225

Which candidate are you saying is "outright racist"? Ken Burch Oct 2015 #227

Great post. Truly laughed. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #234

I mean it. I couldn't figure out who you were attacking there. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #237

Ohh. Ok. Thanks. Nt NCTraveler Oct 2015 #238

I hadn't seen the "Stockholm Syndrome" post at the time I responded earlier. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #240

How many people have said this one DU? davidpdx Oct 2015 #228

I think you misunderstood the post. Vattel Oct 2015 #241

You are more charitable beause you and WillyT are white straight men, and you are both very Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #242

You assume way too much Vattel Oct 2015 #248

this is something the OP has been doing for over a year now JI7 Oct 2015 #258

Agree. Here and in real life, I've seen the phrase "gays for republicans are.... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #249

Umm, we always say white people vote against their interests. LittleBlue Oct 2015 #261

So far as I recall, the argument is "why do people vote against their best interests?" randome Oct 2015 #265

We do? Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #267

That was POSUCS post #2. randome Oct 2015 #264

Oh my GOD.. now this.. that loyalty group demand again Peacetrain Oct 2015 #268