2016 Postmortem

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60. look at the internals

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:31 PM

Oct 2015

http://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/10_16_2015_final_marginals.pdf

only 18 people under 24 were polled

108 people over 65 were polled

we do need to do a better job reaching the older voters

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POLL: Hillary Clinton just took the lead...IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. [View all] JaneyVee Oct 2015 OP

K&R mcar Oct 2015 #1

But..but..Bernie won the debates! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #2

And all 50 states ! upaloopa Oct 2015 #14

But of course! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #34

bbb enid602 Oct 2015 #134

Of course Sanders won. sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #106

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #108

"Billary"??? sufrommich Oct 2015 #113

I am profoundly disappointed that three of my fellow members allowed this calumny to stand DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #131

I am profoundly disappointed okasha Oct 2015 #137

I used to think bigotry was endemic to the right, no more. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #138

Unfortunarely, it's catching. okasha Oct 2015 #139

Billary? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #115

Suddenly, Hillary supporters love polls. tecelote Oct 2015 #114

Only the scientific ones. riversedge Oct 2015 #152

Well whaddya know, actual scientific polls contradicting internet polls StrongBad Oct 2015 #3

You mean actual people thinking with the heads and not with their hearts. It may not hold but kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #105

Yes, but is it scientific? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #4

Haha workinclasszero Oct 2015 #9

It correlates with the last poll from Gravis between 10/5 and 10/6 were it was Bernie +3 still_one Oct 2015 #11

I want that man to be our next NASA Director. nt onehandle Oct 2015 #12

Agreed. I wonder if there's a way to inform the Democratic Candidates Volaris Oct 2015 #98

I like. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #29

I am SOOOO stealing that gif!!!! MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #53

I'll likely vote for her on the basis of not being a Republican. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #58

Right there with ya. MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #65

This is great news...I am heading to the gym soon...This will provide added motivation. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #5

The trend was starting to reverse itself before the debate still_one Oct 2015 #6

WooHoo! Awesome news! MoonRiver Oct 2015 #7

And on to the coronation! It's the come back kid version...whatever. HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #8

It's not a coronation when people vote for her after learning about all candidates. StrongBad Oct 2015 #13

If there's a crown, it will be a coronation. HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #15

vetted enid602 Oct 2015 #136

I was thinking this morning, who is trying the hardest upaloopa Oct 2015 #18

And who was organizing a concerted effort to skew the "online polls"? This is who: George II Oct 2015 #24

I wish we could put this permanately on the home page upaloopa Oct 2015 #43

pfft.those are calls on bernie support pages. hopemountain Oct 2015 #127

Nobody's trying to get you to vote for anyone, upaloopa Scootaloo Oct 2015 #44

Likewise nobody is forcing Hillary on you upaloopa Oct 2015 #89

No, I just get loyalty oath demands three times a day Scootaloo Oct 2015 #93

+1 NealK Oct 2015 #97

Yeah, but what about the online Clicky-Clicky against her? onehandle Oct 2015 #10

Aww the internets magician haz a sad... workinclasszero Oct 2015 #20

Meanwhile, okasha Oct 2015 #143

Hillary is surging whilst Bernie is in a free fall cosmicone Oct 2015 #16

She blew a 60-point lead against Sanders when they first started d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #110

That's actually funny! Walk away Oct 2015 #155

Losing a lead is funny? d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #158

Time for self-soothing: Bernie is in better shape now than Obama in 2007 n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #17

That's considered a dead heat not the lead iamthe99 Oct 2015 #19

True Dem2 Oct 2015 #23

That is a fair assessment but the thread title the OP wrote disagrees with her link posted iamthe99 Oct 2015 #31

And other stories on this poll use that wording exactly n/t Dem2 Oct 2015 #33

yes out of 500 voters she has in this poll, a 7 person lead questionseverything Oct 2015 #56

Careful, us old farts vote in much higher percentages that the young punks CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #147

New Hampshire is demographically an older than average state 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #151

18 voters out of 500 under 24 years questionseverything Oct 2015 #156

Is 37 higher than 35? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #72

Are you familiar with margin of error? Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #85

Yes, of course. But 37 is more than 35. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #88

Moe could also mean this: BeanMusical Oct 2015 #122

Correct mythology Oct 2015 #99

Just as I suspected a few weeks ago and confirmed on Tuesday night: George II Oct 2015 #21

So you are in favor of more debates then? BeanMusical Oct 2015 #125

I personally do not like a lot of debates. juajen Oct 2015 #153

How stuff works iamthe99 Oct 2015 #22

Math and statistics are hard workinclasszero Oct 2015 #26

Is this Boston globes first NH poll? ram2008 Oct 2015 #25

Suffolk's second DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #28

2nd this cycle, but they've been at this for years. This ain't their first rodeo. MADem Oct 2015 #109

A total of 54% believed Mrs. Clinton won the debate, versus 23% who thought Mr. Sanders prevailed. youceyec Oct 2015 #27

42.8% did not watch the debate. Okay they weren't asked who won. Skwmom Oct 2015 #39

Here's the thing quickesst Oct 2015 #57

A big part of winning a debate is convincing the media and pundits you won the debate. DCBob Oct 2015 #68

And yet the debate had record viewership Renew Deal Oct 2015 #79

Sanders supporters frantically clicked anywhere the could on the pollsters website... wyldwolf Oct 2015 #59

I will be interested in seeing what PPP reports on Monday WI_DEM Oct 2015 #30

65% landlines. bunnies Oct 2015 #32

yes, but lots of people have both a landline and cell phone. WI_DEM Oct 2015 #35

I dont know anyone. bunnies Oct 2015 #47

look at the internals questionseverything Oct 2015 #60

Older voters tend to get their information from the television, which outright lies to them. Maedhros Oct 2015 #64

....Unlike the INTERNETS which don't have ANY crap on those tube things Gloria Oct 2015 #102

Yep, somepeople get all of their information on the internet... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #148

I have three landlines and one cellphone. nt MADem Oct 2015 #111

And we use to mock the Republicans for voting against their own economic self interests. Broward Oct 2015 #36

I guess this is the new line from Sanders supporters. Dems are too dumb to vote correctly. StrongBad Oct 2015 #38

I think they are at the stage where you throw upaloopa Oct 2015 #40

Some are still in denial. okasha Oct 2015 #144

It's an interesting primary iamthe99 Oct 2015 #45

Clinton supporters will be flocking to Sanders after hearing this line. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #49

No, more misinformed than anything thanks in no small part to Broward Oct 2015 #77

What a difference a debate makes. ucrdem Oct 2015 #37

Wasn't that the rallying cry of the Bernie true believers? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #41

He's feeling the Bern. ucrdem Oct 2015 #42

OUCH! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #46

username ironic iamthe99 Oct 2015 #48

Interesting huh? n/t whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #50

Welcome to DU...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #149

The BERN turns! MoonRiver Oct 2015 #76

Ha ha ha! MADem Oct 2015 #116

I agree. Our country will fare well under President Hillary Clinton. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #119

He'd make a good Secretary of Labor. We haven't had a good one in a while. nt MADem Oct 2015 #120

Wouldn't that be sweet! nt MoonRiver Oct 2015 #121

He certainly wouldn't be cowed giving testimony to Congress. MADem Oct 2015 #123

But do you think he would give up being a Senator? MoonRiver Oct 2015 #126

To spend the next eight years as Labor Secretary? Sure, why not. MADem Oct 2015 #133

I think we have a plan MADem! MoonRiver Oct 2015 #141

Bernie is berning out! stevenleser Oct 2015 #117

How do they decide what percentage of an age group to poll? Skwmom Oct 2015 #51

Based on past voting patterns and demographics within the state. Also self identification as a Dem. StrongBad Oct 2015 #54

I hope we have many, many more debates BainsBane Oct 2015 #52

I second that n/t cosmicone Oct 2015 #61

That would be wonderful. HubertHeaver Oct 2015 #92

Two points????? Two whole points????? LongTomH Oct 2015 #55

In 2008, Clinton won NH by.....2.5 points brooklynite Oct 2015 #62

This is a poll, not the actual primary election and two points is "margin of error" LongTomH Oct 2015 #66

Bernie supporters firebrand80 Oct 2015 #63

She's on the high end of a post-debate bounce rocktivity Oct 2015 #67

Wait... I was assured the polls would secure Bernie's victory! Adrahil Oct 2015 #70

This year is not a year to believe the pollsters, especially now everyone saw how the debate votes Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #69

So Dem minds are so fragile they easily believe and follow what the MSM says? StrongBad Oct 2015 #74

I said don't believe the polls, I haven't believed them for a long time, they have the single Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #86

You can not trust them, but they're historically reliable and a good predictor of outcomes. StrongBad Oct 2015 #87

Great news... although it doesn't surprise me. DCBob Oct 2015 #71

And this poll includes Biden. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #73

Really.. No doubt her numbers will be higher once Joe is out. DCBob Oct 2015 #78

Grasping at straws Old Codger Oct 2015 #75

Your post reminds me of this video Renew Deal Oct 2015 #80

No...Boston Globe, prepared by Suffolk University brooklynite Oct 2015 #81

My main point really Old Codger Oct 2015 #132

With a 4.4% margin of error Bubzer Oct 2015 #82

Actually, that's a pretty standard MOE. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #84

Standard MOE tends to be 3% - 3.5%... this is a little outside that. Bubzer Oct 2015 #94

Clinton's performance showed that media's narrative on Clinton was wrong. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #83

Great! Hating billionaires is not a policy proposal. R B Garr Oct 2015 #90

Don't count yer chickens too early DFW Oct 2015 #91

I has to do with how far she was behind in NH before the debate. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #104

I get all that DFW Oct 2015 #157

Still within the margin of error. n/t RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #95

Here's more from the poll.. DCBob Oct 2015 #96

If elected and Hillary doesn't change the system this celebration will be meaningless. raindaddy Oct 2015 #100

No one changes the system this time. We will have a Republican House through Jan 2023 due to stevenleser Oct 2015 #118

That is great news Gothmog Oct 2015 #101

K&R RandySF Oct 2015 #103

Oops! MADem Oct 2015 #107

Ages 65+ gets 21% of the sample pool, but 18-24 only gets 3.6%? HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #112

Polling is getting difficult these days because..... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #135

1.4 point lead, 4.4 point MOE jfern Oct 2015 #124

K&R BooScout Oct 2015 #128

I wish it was a 10 point lead. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #129

Well done CNN FOX MSNBC etc Egnever Oct 2015 #130

Knowledgable people don't pay attention to internet polls CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #140

There were more than internet polls Egnever Oct 2015 #142

I pay most attention to the latest polls and to the trend lines CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #145

Well the trend has not been going Hillaries way Egnever Oct 2015 #146

My bad - should have said the latest trend - the one after the debate. CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #150

Bernie has gained 8% points since this outfit's last poll. nt mhatrw Oct 2015 #154