2016 Postmortem

JDPriestly

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41. I liked Kerry in 2004 and voted for him.

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 09:16 AM

Oct 2015

I liked Obama in 2008 and 2012 and voted for him.

I worked hard to elect Kerry and Obama and part of the reason was that they were much less evil than Bush or their Republican opponents.

I like a lot of things about the Obama administration, but it could have been and could be a much better administration.

This time, I am voting for the best of the best, Bernie Sanders. I'm not going to vote for the lesser of two evils which would be Hillary vs. some Republican.

If you want to know the difference between that 2001 resolution against terrorism that authorized the Afghanistan War and the 2002 Iraq War Resolution that Bernie voted against, please see my post #39. (I think that is the number.)

It's a little confusing. I have corrected the misinformation being spread about Bernie's vote several times and am hoping that some misleading posts will be removed by their author.

Thakns.

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I Challenge ANYONE Who Claims that Hillary's Iraq Vote Disqualifies Her to Prove They Said the Same [View all] McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 OP

Well jfern Oct 2015 #1

Nice list, jfern RobertEarl Oct 2015 #3

Yes jfern Oct 2015 #6

Kerry's and Clinton's 2003 aumf vote was for diplomacy not war BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #9

They knew what they were voting for jfern Oct 2015 #11

Contrast their naive trust in Bush with Bernie's reasoned objection to the Iraq War Resolution: JDPriestly Oct 2015 #33

no enid602 Oct 2015 #56

We all knew at the time what that vote was authorizing. nt stillwaiting Oct 2015 #34

NO! The whole world knew that Bush wasn't about "diplomacy". delrem Oct 2015 #36

Please show me where Kerry called for war crimes trials for the Bush Junta. TIA - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #82

Sorry, but if you voted for the war in Iraq and still can't apologize for it, you're a War Hawk. reformist2 Oct 2015 #2

I ain't voting for Kerry this time! RobertEarl Oct 2015 #4

This is all that needs to be said IMO. ion_theory Oct 2015 #53

Hillary has already said it was a mistake uponit7771 Oct 2015 #54

That's not an apology. And if she tried cprise Oct 2015 #60

If only she had that one "mistake" for us to judge her artislife Oct 2015 #65

Oh, a mistake! Scootaloo Oct 2015 #78

No, like voting against the Brady bill five times. Guns have killed more Americans than IWR uponit7771 Oct 2015 #79

We're talking about the Iraq War Resolution right now, uponit. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #80

We're talking about votes that were a mistake, one of them were Hillarys 5 of them were Sanders uponit7771 Oct 2015 #89

The entire thread is about the Iraq War resolution, uponit. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #91

Yes, I can.. Hillary made a mistake and admitted it ... sanders hasn't admitted shit uponit7771 Oct 2015 #92

As I noted... it's not a "mistake." Scootaloo Oct 2015 #96

Nobody died from the Brady bill not passing AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #93

People have died due to help of Sanders bad gun stances in America uponit7771 Oct 2015 #95

Nobody died from the Brady bill not passing AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #97

Our opinions have "evolved". That is what thoughtful people do you know. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #5

Actually, this is not true. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #35

Agreed, I oversimplified that point Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #73

I voted for Jill Stein. Fuck the war mongers. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #7

Yeah, I changed to (I) and voted for Stein in the general cprise Oct 2015 #62

You voted for Jill Stein instead of Obama?...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #76

I think they mean instead of Kerry. n/t Fawke Em Oct 2015 #87

In 2004, Jill Stein was running for State Congress in Mass... SidDithers Oct 2015 #98

Yes. I did. And I voted for Nader instead of Obama. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #112

Me too. And, she's running again. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #100

60 Words And A War Without End BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #8

I thought Bernie ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #17

That was the Afghanistan war. Even Kucinich voted for that n/t eridani Oct 2015 #22

I'm not ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #64

Berme has repeatedly stated correctly that he voted for that 2001 authorization for the War in JDPriestly Oct 2015 #37

Thanks - ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #63

You might want to change Pakistan to Afghanistan in your first ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #70

If that's how it was worded treestar Oct 2015 #26

There were two war resolutions. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #38

No, ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #67

The Bush Junta cynically and cravenly used 9-11 as a pretext by KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #86

True, but the funding came from bin Laden and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #88

We discussed this before. There were, as I explained on another thread, two war resolutions. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #39

Bush had already started the Iraq War in August of 2002. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #46

The Iraq War officially started in the Spring of 2003. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #50

Actually the 9/11 ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #66

aided and abetted by all those vermont reps and senators who have voted for military funding msongs Oct 2015 #10

What I get from your post is SwampG8r Oct 2015 #59

I was 14 in 2004. LoveIsNow Oct 2015 #12

Wesley Clark was also my first choice. Too bad. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #40

+1 Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #81

Me, too. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #84

Over a million Iraqis are dead, McCamy. many, many more are refugees Scootaloo Oct 2015 #13

I liked Kerry in 2004 and voted for him. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #41

If you are referring to me ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #69

I did. And a lot of others here did. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #14

Yes, it caused a big rift and expulsions from this site. cprise Oct 2015 #48

Trick challenge on your part. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #15

OP is playing Gotcha! with the blood of 1000000 dead KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #90

My wife was a Dean delegate in the 2004 convention. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #16

I was a Dean supporter, too. What OP is missing... cprise Oct 2015 #43

Very well said. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #58

HILLARY ISN'T JOHN KERRY Perogie Oct 2015 #18

Kerry wasnt on walmarts board of directors while they fought unions Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #19

I voted for Kerry Spirochete Oct 2015 #20

It's certainly why I didn't support him in the primary eridani Oct 2015 #21

Duelfer Report released Sept. 30, 2004. moondust Oct 2015 #23

As a dispassionate observer it is my considered opinion... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #24

+1 treestar Oct 2015 #25

At this point, you would think Bernie was responsible for every gun death. djean111 Oct 2015 #42

The fact is that we now have a candidate who bravely voted against the 2002 Iraq War Resolution JDPriestly Oct 2015 #44

Except the attack ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #72

Bin Laden, their "Saudi" leader, was operating from Afghanistan...... virtualobserver Oct 2015 #85

That would make ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #102

Afghanistan was harboring Bin Laden...he only escaped to Pakistan because of Bush virtualobserver Oct 2015 #103

It was stupid and immoral. ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #104

When your country is attacked, you need to respond virtualobserver Oct 2015 #105

I just don't think Afghanistan attacked us. ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #107

That man was in Afghanistan virtualobserver Oct 2015 #109

That is a myth . TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #106

I know the ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #108

Hillary lied about coming under sniper fire at an airport. She is for more outsourcing, & H1b visas peacebird Oct 2015 #27

+ 1000 for Courage and Vision !!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #28

^^This^^ tblue Oct 2015 #32

Thank you. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #45

Yup. Maybe Hillary supporters are single issue voters, and obviously they think Bernie's djean111 Oct 2015 #47

Similar can be said about Sanders, none of the candidates can throw stones despite his uponit7771 Oct 2015 #74

Love the Tolstoy quote EndElectoral Oct 2015 #29

We didn't really have a choice at that time. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #30

that was a huge point of contention for many DUers in that election bigtree Oct 2015 #31

Seems you joined DU just after all the action. Dean supporters were very passionate. n/t cprise Oct 2015 #49

Have Been Ant-War All My Life From the Moment I Could Comprehend Photos Of the Carnage cantbeserious Oct 2015 #51

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #52

Did not vote for Kerry in the Primary. TM99 Oct 2015 #55

Prove a negative? 99Forever Oct 2015 #57

I would have voted Hillary in 2004 PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #61

You can tell that folks don't like being called out on their hypocrisy by ... Persondem Oct 2015 #68

Carried signs,organized protests, helped put millions on the street. Scruffy1 Oct 2015 #71

"he trusted my judgment." moondust Oct 2015 #75

DU rec...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #77

I didn't vote for Kerry in the primary. Enough said. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #83

Blah-blah-blah challenge blah blah-dee blah Android3.14 Oct 2015 #94

I thought Kerry was a terrible candidate BuelahWitch Oct 2015 #99

It's just a comparison for me HassleCat Oct 2015 #101

"I'm going to hold my nose and vote for the despicable warmonger" Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #110

Actually, said a lot of people, all across the country. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #111

Hillary did not vote for the Bush Cheney invasion lawexpert Nov 2015 #113