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cprise

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60. That's not an apology. And if she tried

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #54)

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 10:45 AM

Oct 2015

her recent alliances with neocons and her record in State would show her insincerity.

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I Challenge ANYONE Who Claims that Hillary's Iraq Vote Disqualifies Her to Prove They Said the Same [View all] McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 OP

Well jfern Oct 2015 #1

Nice list, jfern RobertEarl Oct 2015 #3

Yes jfern Oct 2015 #6

Kerry's and Clinton's 2003 aumf vote was for diplomacy not war BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #9

They knew what they were voting for jfern Oct 2015 #11

Contrast their naive trust in Bush with Bernie's reasoned objection to the Iraq War Resolution: JDPriestly Oct 2015 #33

no enid602 Oct 2015 #56

We all knew at the time what that vote was authorizing. nt stillwaiting Oct 2015 #34

NO! The whole world knew that Bush wasn't about "diplomacy". delrem Oct 2015 #36

Please show me where Kerry called for war crimes trials for the Bush Junta. TIA - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #82

Sorry, but if you voted for the war in Iraq and still can't apologize for it, you're a War Hawk. reformist2 Oct 2015 #2

I ain't voting for Kerry this time! RobertEarl Oct 2015 #4

This is all that needs to be said IMO. ion_theory Oct 2015 #53

Hillary has already said it was a mistake uponit7771 Oct 2015 #54

That's not an apology. And if she tried cprise Oct 2015 #60

If only she had that one "mistake" for us to judge her artislife Oct 2015 #65

Oh, a mistake! Scootaloo Oct 2015 #78

No, like voting against the Brady bill five times. Guns have killed more Americans than IWR uponit7771 Oct 2015 #79

We're talking about the Iraq War Resolution right now, uponit. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #80

We're talking about votes that were a mistake, one of them were Hillarys 5 of them were Sanders uponit7771 Oct 2015 #89

The entire thread is about the Iraq War resolution, uponit. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #91

Yes, I can.. Hillary made a mistake and admitted it ... sanders hasn't admitted shit uponit7771 Oct 2015 #92

As I noted... it's not a "mistake." Scootaloo Oct 2015 #96

Nobody died from the Brady bill not passing AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #93

People have died due to help of Sanders bad gun stances in America uponit7771 Oct 2015 #95

Nobody died from the Brady bill not passing AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #97

Our opinions have "evolved". That is what thoughtful people do you know. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #5

Actually, this is not true. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #35

Agreed, I oversimplified that point Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #73

I voted for Jill Stein. Fuck the war mongers. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #7

Yeah, I changed to (I) and voted for Stein in the general cprise Oct 2015 #62

You voted for Jill Stein instead of Obama?...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #76

I think they mean instead of Kerry. n/t Fawke Em Oct 2015 #87

In 2004, Jill Stein was running for State Congress in Mass... SidDithers Oct 2015 #98

Yes. I did. And I voted for Nader instead of Obama. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #112

Me too. And, she's running again. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #100

60 Words And A War Without End BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #8

I thought Bernie ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #17

That was the Afghanistan war. Even Kucinich voted for that n/t eridani Oct 2015 #22

I'm not ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #64

Berme has repeatedly stated correctly that he voted for that 2001 authorization for the War in JDPriestly Oct 2015 #37

Thanks - ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #63

You might want to change Pakistan to Afghanistan in your first ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #70

If that's how it was worded treestar Oct 2015 #26

There were two war resolutions. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #38

No, ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #67

The Bush Junta cynically and cravenly used 9-11 as a pretext by KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #86

True, but the funding came from bin Laden and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #88

We discussed this before. There were, as I explained on another thread, two war resolutions. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #39

Bush had already started the Iraq War in August of 2002. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #46

The Iraq War officially started in the Spring of 2003. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #50

Actually the 9/11 ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #66

aided and abetted by all those vermont reps and senators who have voted for military funding msongs Oct 2015 #10

What I get from your post is SwampG8r Oct 2015 #59

I was 14 in 2004. LoveIsNow Oct 2015 #12

Wesley Clark was also my first choice. Too bad. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #40

+1 Alittleliberal Oct 2015 #81

Me, too. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #84

Over a million Iraqis are dead, McCamy. many, many more are refugees Scootaloo Oct 2015 #13

I liked Kerry in 2004 and voted for him. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #41

If you are referring to me ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #69

I did. And a lot of others here did. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #14

Yes, it caused a big rift and expulsions from this site. cprise Oct 2015 #48

Trick challenge on your part. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #15

OP is playing Gotcha! with the blood of 1000000 dead KingCharlemagne Oct 2015 #90

My wife was a Dean delegate in the 2004 convention. Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #16

I was a Dean supporter, too. What OP is missing... cprise Oct 2015 #43

Very well said. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #58

HILLARY ISN'T JOHN KERRY Perogie Oct 2015 #18

Kerry wasnt on walmarts board of directors while they fought unions Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #19

I voted for Kerry Spirochete Oct 2015 #20

It's certainly why I didn't support him in the primary eridani Oct 2015 #21

Duelfer Report released Sept. 30, 2004. moondust Oct 2015 #23

As a dispassionate observer it is my considered opinion... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #24

+1 treestar Oct 2015 #25

At this point, you would think Bernie was responsible for every gun death. djean111 Oct 2015 #42

The fact is that we now have a candidate who bravely voted against the 2002 Iraq War Resolution JDPriestly Oct 2015 #44

Except the attack ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #72

Bin Laden, their "Saudi" leader, was operating from Afghanistan...... virtualobserver Oct 2015 #85

That would make ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #102

Afghanistan was harboring Bin Laden...he only escaped to Pakistan because of Bush virtualobserver Oct 2015 #103

It was stupid and immoral. ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #104

When your country is attacked, you need to respond virtualobserver Oct 2015 #105

I just don't think Afghanistan attacked us. ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #107

That man was in Afghanistan virtualobserver Oct 2015 #109

That is a myth . TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #106

I know the ohheckyeah Oct 2015 #108

Hillary lied about coming under sniper fire at an airport. She is for more outsourcing, & H1b visas peacebird Oct 2015 #27

+ 1000 for Courage and Vision !!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #28

^^This^^ tblue Oct 2015 #32

Thank you. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #45

Yup. Maybe Hillary supporters are single issue voters, and obviously they think Bernie's djean111 Oct 2015 #47

Similar can be said about Sanders, none of the candidates can throw stones despite his uponit7771 Oct 2015 #74

Love the Tolstoy quote EndElectoral Oct 2015 #29

We didn't really have a choice at that time. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #30

that was a huge point of contention for many DUers in that election bigtree Oct 2015 #31

Seems you joined DU just after all the action. Dean supporters were very passionate. n/t cprise Oct 2015 #49

Have Been Ant-War All My Life From the Moment I Could Comprehend Photos Of the Carnage cantbeserious Oct 2015 #51

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #52

Did not vote for Kerry in the Primary. TM99 Oct 2015 #55

Prove a negative? 99Forever Oct 2015 #57

I would have voted Hillary in 2004 PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #61

You can tell that folks don't like being called out on their hypocrisy by ... Persondem Oct 2015 #68

Carried signs,organized protests, helped put millions on the street. Scruffy1 Oct 2015 #71

"he trusted my judgment." moondust Oct 2015 #75

DU rec...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #77

I didn't vote for Kerry in the primary. Enough said. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #83

Blah-blah-blah challenge blah blah-dee blah Android3.14 Oct 2015 #94

I thought Kerry was a terrible candidate BuelahWitch Oct 2015 #99

It's just a comparison for me HassleCat Oct 2015 #101

"I'm going to hold my nose and vote for the despicable warmonger" Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #110

Actually, said a lot of people, all across the country. Ken Burch Oct 2015 #111

Hillary did not vote for the Bush Cheney invasion lawexpert Nov 2015 #113