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In reply to the discussion: Party loyalty is a means of control. I vote for those who will represent me, period. [View all]SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)26. Thank you.
I'm looking for a Heinlein quote on party politics that I can't find offhand, but he believed in party politics and party loyalty, for basically the same reason as trade unions - power in unified numbers.
Nevertheless, I think the current corporate Dem party kinda stinks. Just not as bad as the Rs.
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Party loyalty is a means of control. I vote for those who will represent me, period. [View all]
F4lconF16
Oct 2015
OP
the more I hear Hillary, the more convinced I am that she will fight Wall Street & the GOP
SleeplessinSoCal
Oct 2015
#56
I thiink you missed the point of the OP. It IS cavalier to contnue to vote for people
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#216
+ 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
orpupilofnature57
Oct 2015
#252
I will be voting for the candidate who best represents my interest, that candidate is Hillary
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#3
Sanders is not electable, of course Bill Krystal is hoping for Sanders to be the
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#63
Bill Krystal is hoping for HRC to steal the nomination to electrify his base and demoralize ours.
Vincardog
Oct 2015
#98
Why is so much credence given to Bill Krystal's opinions? He's a smirking little twit.
YOHABLO
Oct 2015
#222
Sanders looks very ethical compared to Hillary. What moves has he made that have damaged
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#154
Sanders has stated he would use military action and use drones. He has voted for bombing and
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#165
Bernie Sanders was a small child in WWII. His father immigrated from Europe and the family
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#229
No response to my post? Well, if you must bring up another subject, Bernie did not have good
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#285
Let's hope a President would use military action in defense of this country. That's what makes
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#343
Hello Cthulhu kicks ass and is adorable at the same time, isn't she?
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#234
The scandal about the link between the donations from foreign countries and Hillary's and Bill's
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#159
David Sirota in Salon reporting on Hillary's approvals of arms sales is right wing?
JDPriestly
Oct 2015
#320
The supreme court is the reason we should all support the eventual candidate
rynestonecowboy
Oct 2015
#134
so you vote for the status quo, dishonest government , big business and the 1%. Good for you....
bowens43
Oct 2015
#246
No, quiet the opposite, voting for a functional government, experienced candidate who knows how to
Thinkingabout
Oct 2015
#295
"Working on both sides of aisle" is kind of hard when you said that one side is the enemy. n/t
Dawgs
Oct 2015
#294
Please enlightern us how any candidate is better for the country than Bernie? On What POLCICY are
Vincardog
Oct 2015
#43
"not voting for Clinton once she is the nominee is doing a disservice to the majority"
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2015
#281
So would you vote for a can of Spam if it was leading in the polls? It has no policy.
BeanMusical
Oct 2015
#327
I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the OP... I haven't given it much thought, yet.
1monster
Oct 2015
#90
I will vote for Hillary, if necessary (I hope it isn't) for one reason only.
SusanCalvin
Oct 2015
#22
Really? You think that if a repub get elected he/she isn't going to appoint scotus justices
onenote
Oct 2015
#131
A Sanders nomination will cause more people to vote Green than a Hillary one?
dreamnightwind
Oct 2015
#241
I am quite aware of all that, I simply have no problem with it whatsoever
dreamnightwind
Oct 2015
#244
It is if we can finally convince the Democratic Party to quit lining up behind pro-corporate
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2015
#18
if you say 1sbm is privileged, that would make Trayvon MArtin as having been privileged also
JI7
Oct 2015
#240
Funny ... I can point to a bunch of DUers that understand EXACTLY what Trayvon Martin ...
1StrongBlackMan
Oct 2015
#331
There's a lot of valid objections to voting for her in the general? ...
1StrongBlackMan
Oct 2015
#180
Me neither. If Hillary is forced on us despite the underwhelming enthusiasm for her
Catherina
Oct 2015
#8
If people would just vote in the primary for the person who best represents the PEOPLE
cui bono
Oct 2015
#9
I think a large chunk of the electorate on the left is where you are.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2015
#11
I'll go further. Even as bad as it is, it's miles better than anyone else's up there.
Catherina
Oct 2015
#183
The choice we face now is Bernie or someone else for our candidate/ the best chance the republicans
Vincardog
Oct 2015
#51
Please vote your conscience in the primaries, but remember the Terms of Service:
TexasTowelie
Oct 2015
#21
I said nothing to that effect and everyone can choose who to vote for in the general election
TexasTowelie
Oct 2015
#50
its not bad to get a reminder now and then, esp with many new posters. nt
restorefreedom
Oct 2015
#78
Funny how we're allowed to gripe about them once they are already in office, but not when it is
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2015
#41
What happens to working people when they have to compete with workers in Vietnam?
Enthusiast
Oct 2015
#79
What a ridiculous alert, I guess they wanted the op locked out of his own thread.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#231
^^^ This ^^^ - The DNC DLC Third Wayers Have To Go - Else The People Will Perish
cantbeserious
Oct 2015
#57
Why shouldn't the American people expect representation? It isn't utopia to expect democracy.
Enthusiast
Oct 2015
#93
The Democratic Party has never demanded loyalty. You are thinking of the GOP.
McCamy Taylor
Oct 2015
#62
The DEM party is just a lesser evil to me, too many right wingers in the party
m-lekktor
Oct 2015
#68
It's the only way we can help get the country back on track. continuing to vote
Doctor_J
Oct 2015
#104
I don't agree. I want to get our party out of the clutches of the corporatists. nt
SusanCalvin
Oct 2015
#133
I'm not sure if I agree with you or not but I can understand your argument
A Little Weird
Oct 2015
#152
Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2015
#161
If you are comfortable giving control of the SCOTUS to the GOP for a generation that is your right
Gothmog
Oct 2015
#177
I won't vote for anyone who does not represent me. The slogan "we suck less" does not work
GoneFishin
Oct 2015
#193
As long as you're willing to accept the possibility of the "we suck more" guy getting elected
brooklynite
Oct 2015
#198
I am supporting the guy who is least like the "we suck more" guy. I think concerned people should
GoneFishin
Oct 2015
#201
I have never studied an issue and then found a Republican who can represent me...maybe it's......
Tikki
Oct 2015
#212
Party Loyalty is BUNK we saw what happened last time when the 'loyal' third way, neo liberal,
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
Oct 2015
#248
I completely disagree, Party Loyalty, is a means of keeping the republicans from overrunning...
DrewFlorida
Oct 2015
#268
This site is named Democratic Underground, not Third Way Lebertarian Underground.
Todays_Illusion
Oct 2015
#299
"The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity"
Babel_17
Oct 2015
#314
"Because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush"
greenman3610
Oct 2015
#317
No there is a great deal of difference between Al Gore and Bush: You are uninformed!
lewebley3
Oct 2015
#329