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Fla Dem

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146. You have no way to know what he intended. I take it at face value.

Mon Oct 19, 2015, 05:19 PM

Oct 2015

And the fact he prefaced his remarks by saying this is probably politically incorrect leads me to believe we interpreted his remarks as he meant them to be understood.

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The debate: according to MNSBC, Sanders email complaint was rehearsed -- and not intended [View all] pnwmom Oct 2015 OP

Wow, Hillary supporters are attacking Bernie for this? WEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jfern Oct 2015 #1

This isn't an attack, and I am not in either camp. I just thought it was interesting. n/t pnwmom Oct 2015 #2

Hillary didn't seal the deal, this came afterwards Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #19

This isn't an attack, and I am not in either camp. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #69

That was about my reaction. Bubzer Oct 2015 #134

I saw that earlier, but I don't trust the source who said it. artislife Oct 2015 #70

Found this artislife Oct 2015 #77

Weak doesn't even begin to describe it. HERVEPA Oct 2015 #3

True. Because it's not an attack at all. Just a recognition pnwmom Oct 2015 #5

Below HERVEPA Oct 2015 #31

unbelievably ungrateful if that is what they think. It got the pigs off her back roguevalley Oct 2015 #118

Grateful for good luck, yes. But if he didn't intend this gift, pnwmom Oct 2015 #127

See my post above HERVEPA Oct 2015 #128

Neither of your above posts explains why. nt pnwmom Oct 2015 #129

Your constant Hillary blather HERVEPA Oct 2015 #130

How is this an attack? zappaman Oct 2015 #6

If Sanders had intended the remark as a critique, the timing was rather poor....and the debate Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #18

Please see where pundit self decribes as right of center artislife Oct 2015 #79

I know you're not new to DU... Bubzer Oct 2015 #136

Unless proven its a petty lie Armstead Oct 2015 #144

Attacking a candidate's strengths is Swift Boating 101. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #15

minions enid602 Oct 2015 #30

Oh spare me. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #33

I just love you! Puglover Oct 2015 #58

Oh, my! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #60

Posting while Puglover Oct 2015 #62

Sounds delicious! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #64

Most of us techies don't obsess about the emails, but to about the callous nature LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #36

You're right, she should have used those secure government computers... Human101948 Oct 2015 #102

Sorry, that is an apple situation, I was talking about oranges. Not the same. OH sorry, they LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #105

For a tech guy you really don't have a good grasp of technology... Human101948 Oct 2015 #124

The difference is who gets to bear the burden of responsibility. Hillary unnecessarily A Simple Game Oct 2015 #140

You apparently didn't read the piece at the link. This is not about "supporters." MADem Oct 2015 #61

Pundit self described right of center. artislife Oct 2015 #82

This is not about "Hillary supporters" though--it's about some jerk appearing on Morning Joe, MADem Oct 2015 #84

I am not attacking her supporters artislife Oct 2015 #86

There's no question that the written source is a conservative nutjob, and the on-air source has MADem Oct 2015 #90

Where did it say Hillary's supporters" . It was a reporter on Morning Jerk who said it. Fla Dem Oct 2015 #141

Well, this thread got 12 recs that seem to all be from Hillary supporters jfern Oct 2015 #142

How do you know the rec's were from Hillary supporters? Fla Dem Oct 2015 #143

If you look at their profiles jfern Oct 2015 #147

Says Joe Scarborough lol. But you said "According to MSNBC" IanBrownie Oct 2015 #4

It wasn't even Scarborough. msrizzo Oct 2015 #10

You could have clicked the link and had the full picture in less time than it took to type that post MADem Oct 2015 #63

In the opinion of a reporter in Joe's show, whose name you don't even know... IanBrownie Oct 2015 #108

It's Mark Halperin, that little weasel who used to write for TIME years ago and fleeted up to MADem Oct 2015 #117

The only problem I have with Hillary's email problem is that it glaringly illustrates how very djean111 Oct 2015 #7

Amen! Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #110

The Sanders fans who have carried the GOP water on Egazhi were disappointed to hear Sanders Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #125

Oh, right. I have never seen ANYONE at DU on board with the Benghazi crap. djean111 Oct 2015 #126

Feh kenfrequed Oct 2015 #137

He immediately preceded the remarks with yodermon Oct 2015 #8

Exactly, msrizzo Oct 2015 #11

Yep. What the Hillary Camp is doing here is really dishonest. It's sad. reformist2 Oct 2015 #17

What makes you think okasha Oct 2015 #111

Where is the Hillary camp doing anything to further this idiocy along? Please show us. nt Fla Dem Oct 2015 #145

This mythology Oct 2015 #28

That is why I don't believe the 'reporter' at all. Chemisse Oct 2015 #32

Both were skillful gwheezie Oct 2015 #9

Yes. Whatever the intention, they both handled it well and as a result pnwmom Oct 2015 #12

The intention was extremely clear to everyone but a reporter you can't name and whom Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #24

ha! interesting. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #34

So Kathleen is a fan of dynasties, eh? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #40

Bernie had no choice but to roll with what he said.... riversedge Oct 2015 #13

Did you even watch? Bernie even prefaced it by saying it wasn't good politics to defend an opponent! reformist2 Oct 2015 #16

yes, I did watch and I do recall--and have often rea that comment. What is your point? riversedge Oct 2015 #21

The point is that Sanders said that what he was gonna say "may not be great politics" Vattel Oct 2015 #55

Well, we will never know if your 'natural interpretation" is correct or not unless Sanders riversedge Oct 2015 #76

Yes, and until we know with certainty, let's talk about things that might have happened Vattel Oct 2015 #83

+1 AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #113

Debate winner!^^^^^^^ Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #22

You have no way to know what he intended. I take it at face value. Fla Dem Oct 2015 #146

Polling shows this was the only memorable line, so Camp Hillary needs to undermine it. Sad. Grim. reformist2 Oct 2015 #14

there is no 'camp hillary' that is undermining it. It was reported in an opinion riversedge Oct 2015 #25

Who I maintain is a member of Camp Hillary. She's prolly hoping to be White House press secretary. reformist2 Oct 2015 #49

What an uninformed comment. The writer of that dreck is a conservative wingnut. MADem Oct 2015 #101

And what are your thoughts on Roswell? okasha Oct 2015 #112

Mark Halperin is the one who originally started this rumour. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #51

yes, I actually heard him the day after the debate. But as I said it was riversedge Oct 2015 #71

The original source is a reporter who was suspended for calling Obama a "dick" on MSNBC. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #78

Halperin is a political editor at Bloomberg. ucrdem Oct 2015 #56

Yes, I know. riversedge Oct 2015 #73

Yep. Halperin is no fan of Dems. But it's not that big a deal in any case. ucrdem Oct 2015 #88

"A reporter on MSNBC'S "Morning Joe" said Sanders' remark had been rehearsed" madfloridian Oct 2015 #20

whatever the intention of bernie's handlers restorefreedom Oct 2015 #23

Nonsense. See video: Bernie Tells Reporter Why He Won't Attack Clinton --> AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #26

I think it was very smart of him gwheezie Oct 2015 #41

I'd like to say it was brilliant political jujitsu, but I honestly believe it was sincerity. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #44

I agree, I think it gave people a sense of bernie gwheezie Oct 2015 #47

Hillary Clinton might just be the most clever and adroit debater since this gentleman. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #27

I thought Bernie wasn't rehearsing tho. aidbo Oct 2015 #29

Morning Joe? bullshit. They obviously don't have any idea about Bernie and who he is. still_one Oct 2015 #35

Congratulations. Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #37

HAHAHA!!! Talk about spin. The last report was that Bernie did not prep for the debate. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #38

Hillary supporters never worry about consistency jfern Oct 2015 #100

Oh bullshit ibegurpard Oct 2015 #39

"Halperin: Sanders� E-mail Comment Was Supposed To Be a �Condemnation,� Not an Exoneration" ucrdem Oct 2015 #42

Snorkeling in a septic tank that reporter was Fumesucker Oct 2015 #43

Mark Halperin wa suspended by MSNBC for calling President Obama a "dick": beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #45

"Mark Halperin blasted Hillary Clinton" about her response to the email scandal: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

Halperin is an idiot gwheezie Oct 2015 #48

He's the source of the quote in the op. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #50

I support hrc gwheezie Oct 2015 #53

I know you do and you deserve respect for supporting her without smearing other candidates. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

If you believe anything on Mourning Joe Bernblu Oct 2015 #52

That doesnt make sense considering that Sanders opened by saying "this may not be politically smart" DCBob Oct 2015 #54

This post wins the daily "Silly Season"award for reasons that should be clear to you by now. Vattel Oct 2015 #59

Kathleen Parker,a flower of conservative southern punditry, cites unnamed reported w/ unnamed source aikoaiko Oct 2015 #65

video: ucrdem Oct 2015 #66

After gushing over HRC and saying Bernie did badly, he says "I was told...." aikoaiko Oct 2015 #87

It was a crap line if it was a scripted hit, in which case it's a credit to Sanders either way. ucrdem Oct 2015 #94

More whining from Hillary supporters. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #67

Which Hillary supporters? Name them, please. MADem Oct 2015 #89

You make wild stupid claim with nothing to back it up. riversedge Oct 2015 #91

The writer had her own way of interpreting what Bernie intended and what Hillary achieved... cascadiance Oct 2015 #68

So what. If it was a rehearsed attack, it backfired. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #72

They should be focusing on the part right after that Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #74

This may be of interest artislife Oct 2015 #75

Thank you, that IS interesting, isn't it? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #81

You should really be ashamed of yourself tularetom Oct 2015 #80

What is "dishonest" about the post? Did you click the link? If you had, you would have read MADem Oct 2015 #93

Yes, the OP is doing Sanders a great service bringing these ridiculous claims here to be debunked Fumesucker Oct 2015 #95

The OP is reporting on a story that a conservative wingnut is shopping, quoting a broadcast media MADem Oct 2015 #103

In the OP, pnwmom is pushing the line that the assholes are pushing. Vattel Oct 2015 #109

An idiotic claim. eom Bonobo Oct 2015 #85

"Morning Joe" says it all emsimon33 Oct 2015 #92

Really? Who really gives a sh*t? SmittynMo Oct 2015 #96

Ya think? Android3.14 Oct 2015 #97

hahahahahahaha fredamae Oct 2015 #98

Told ya! nt Walk away Oct 2015 #99

A lame and desperate attempt to smear Bernie for pushing back against the media harping on the GoneFishin Oct 2015 #104

It's not like Bernie hasn't done that before or anything... beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #106

Mark Halpern reported last week... brooklynite Oct 2015 #107

He also called Obama a "dick" on MSNBC so yes, let's cite him as a credible source on DU! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #114

Based on his ability to get inside information for GAME CHANGE and DOUBLE DOWN? Yes. brooklynite Oct 2015 #123

Thanks, brooklynite! So he confirmed the story. nt pnwmom Oct 2015 #121

I heard this before and it makes NO sense. Skwmom Oct 2015 #115

That�s exactly how I took that bit of info dorkzilla Oct 2015 #139

Weak sauce AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #116

I new it! Sanders really meant to hammer Clinton. mhatrw Oct 2015 #119

Maybe that is true and maybe not. I believe Bernie's heart was in the right place and he Tipperary Oct 2015 #120

Kathleen Parker. mmonk Oct 2015 #122

lol - spin, spin, spin ... TBF Oct 2015 #131

I heard that day Sanders had not rehearsed for the debate Samantha Oct 2015 #132

"Morning Joe"....'Nuff said. blackspade Oct 2015 #133

Revolting kenfrequed Oct 2015 #135

keep up the scorched earth, smear by any and all means. By all means magical thyme Oct 2015 #138