2016 Postmortem

Andy823

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40. Exactly

Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:41 AM

Oct 2015

Here on DU we have the shit stirrers who do nothing but divide the board and complain. The majority of them probably have no intention of voting for the democratic nominee no matter who it might be! Their agenda is "not" putting democrats in office.

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"I won't vote for Hillary" is the canary in the coal mine [View all] Fumesucker Oct 2015 OP

well.. yes and no EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #1

I'm not trying to changres anyones's mind. Vote for ever you want to vote for... bowens43 Oct 2015 #2

I won't vote for her in the primaries... Lunabell Oct 2015 #3

I could not agree more. SkyDaddy7 Oct 2015 #22

Exactly Andy823 Oct 2015 #35

Why is taking a stand on principle considered pouting? Fuddnik Oct 2015 #45

It's not demwing Oct 2015 #62

I'm not pouting - just 840high Oct 2015 #105

Voting for Bernie in the primary... SkyDaddy7 Oct 2015 #121

I think you are right. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #4

Likewise in Florida. Fuddnik Oct 2015 #47

I'm in a solid BLUE section of LA County and I hear Hillary hatred all the time. Hepburn Oct 2015 #65

I feel this way as well retrowire Oct 2015 #5

If Bernie loses the general, he will not be able to vote for Hillary... Thor_MN Oct 2015 #10

WTF? Where did you get such an idea? Scuba Oct 2015 #17

I think retrowire meant the primary. n/t bvf Oct 2015 #19

What good is it to nominate Hillary when ... DrBulldog Oct 2015 #6

I met 2 of them yesterday. RiverLover Oct 2015 #7

The mind is a tragic thing to waste. To be against a woman for staying with her husband... kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #20

I agree about the issue in your subject line dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #94

Actually, it was a Navy Blue dress. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #109

She didn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer. RiverLover Oct 2015 #122

With a name like fumesucker, I would think you could handle the toxic atmossphere. Vattel Oct 2015 #8

I'm hanging out in GD-P Fumesucker Oct 2015 #13

I'm pining for Bernie and the fjords! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #9

Bingo! This is the point the OP is making! Most above have not "discussed" it so much as Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #41

Dems don't have to be in love just with every candidate. After Obama its kinda hard you know... uponit7771 Oct 2015 #11

He's just resting... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #12

Like Hillary? artislife Oct 2015 #76

Define "stay home" Martin Eden Oct 2015 #14

You are ascribing more sophistication on the part of voters than most of them deserve Fumesucker Oct 2015 #15

OK, so "stay home" isn't what you personally plan to do Martin Eden Oct 2015 #21

I sure hope you are right hellraiser69 Oct 2015 #38

I plan to vote in November 2016. Nedsdag Oct 2015 #92

It's a matter of turning alienated voters into strategic voters eridani Oct 2015 #16

Apathy is the enemy of democracy. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #23

Obama will make a great SC Justice Sunlei Oct 2015 #25

No, he wouldn't because the Supreme Court is not just about Roe and CU TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #78

I like your transmission analogy. My problem with Hillary is A Simple Game Oct 2015 #29

Well I agree with half of your strategy. I am so glad Sanders is getting people back into the liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #52

Well, Fume. Take comfort: Rep. Mo Brooks will move to impeach Hillary as soon as she is Hortensis Oct 2015 #18

what will Bernie Sanders say if he doesn't win the primary? Sunlei Oct 2015 #24

...assuming DU is in any way reflective of Democrats in the real world. It's not. brooklynite Oct 2015 #26

Your are so correct with that statement INdemo Oct 2015 #27

Exactly Andy823 Oct 2015 #40

Indeed, DUers are far more likely to hold their nose and vote for a nominee they don't care for Fumesucker Oct 2015 #42

EXACTLY!!! Dawgs Oct 2015 #48

I will vote for Hillary in the general if she gets the nomination, but iwillalwayswonderwhy Oct 2015 #28

SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS !!!! secondwind Oct 2015 #30

Which stage of grief is this? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #31

Being rude to Bernie supporters does Hillary no good. senz Oct 2015 #113

There you go again, Fimesucker, makin' stuff up and... Nitram Oct 2015 #32

Who will you be assigning blame to if Hillary loses the general? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #34

Sounds like you've already accepted the blame. nt Nitram Oct 2015 #36

He's only resting.. Fumesucker Oct 2015 #37

No he's not, he's an ex-Democrat! Nitram Oct 2015 #39

Indeed, you make my point for me Fumesucker Oct 2015 #43

I gujess you didn't notice my reference to the 'ex-parrot', of 'he's just restin' fame. Nitram Oct 2015 #123

Never seen Fumesucker make stuff up or play the drama queen. senz Oct 2015 #114

That's exactly what I've been concerned about. Vinca Oct 2015 #33

Why be concerned if the party wants Hillary then they should be ready for voter apathy already YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #44

As Hillary rises in the polls I expect the attacks on her to grow exponentially./nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #46

Still won't make her electable in the GE. Dawgs Oct 2015 #49

Thank you for confirming my observation. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #50

LOL!! Dawgs Oct 2015 #55

Emoticons are inadequate camouflage for paucity of thought DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #60

Great research. Dawgs Oct 2015 #74

In your initial response you dismissed betting/predictions markets as laughable: DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #75

My last response is why it's laughable. Dawgs Oct 2015 #77

I was expecting ... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #79

Right, and I showed the "market" thought Hillary would win in December of 2007. Dawgs Oct 2015 #80

Yes, when two or more people or teams compete... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #82

It would have helped if you said that in the first place. Dawgs Oct 2015 #89

I would insult my interlocutor too if I was incapable of making an elementary inference. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #91

I am a Hillary supporter who has "harangued" no one, nor do I intend to do so. Tipperary Oct 2015 #51

sorry but that right there is harangueing. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #54

It is haranguing to say that if Dems do not go the polls then we are in danger of Tipperary Oct 2015 #56

Why don't we place the blame where it belongs, on the politicians, not the voters. Blaming liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #58

If a Democrat who chooses not to vote cannot see the possible ramifications of that failure Tipperary Oct 2015 #61

Wow. Good luck convincing people to vote with that attitude. I am 39 by the way and have liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #64

Apparently you have misunderstood me because I do not give a fig if you vote or not. Tipperary Oct 2015 #66

Democrats are 30% of the electorate. You don't win with 30%. jeff47 Oct 2015 #67

Quotes around "you're a lousy Democrat" implies that I wrote that, and I did not. That Tipperary Oct 2015 #68

:eyes: jeff47 Oct 2015 #69

I am sorry if you object to my opinion, but that is what it is, an opinion. Tipperary Oct 2015 #70

And your opinion doesn't actually help win elections. jeff47 Oct 2015 #73

No, that is not my goal. Tipperary Oct 2015 #88

Not everyone who votes for Democrats is a "Democrat" Fumesucker Oct 2015 #57

exactly. They don't have to do anything. All they have to do is blame the other party and threaten liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #59

Lately, the email issue is beginning to implode Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #53

True. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #63

You can call it whatever you want, it won't change the dynamics of the situation Fumesucker Oct 2015 #84

In matters of conscience the law of majority has no place. Gandhi Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #71

I'll be voting for the dem candidate. cwydro Oct 2015 #72

A vote for Hillary is a vote for the further co-optation of the Democratic Party Maedhros Oct 2015 #81

Another way to look at it from Paul Krugman ... Persondem Oct 2015 #83

A lot of people don't believe Hillary is serious about her proposals Fumesucker Oct 2015 #85

Realistically, without the House of Representatives Persondem Oct 2015 #93

Hold her feet to the fire? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #100

PUMA - Remember those people? firebrand80 Oct 2015 #86

I remember what happened to Hillary the last time Fumesucker Oct 2015 #87

The weaknesses you point out in Hillary are very true firebrand80 Oct 2015 #90

Every person is entitled to their vote. If Bernie wants to vote for Hillary if she wins the liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #97

Anyone not voting for Hillary in the General election is braindead. sellitman Oct 2015 #95

braindead ? olddots Oct 2015 #98

buh bye. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #99

Good riddence sellitman Oct 2015 #120

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger Fumesucker Oct 2015 #101

WTH - what a choice of words. 840high Oct 2015 #104

She simply can not win the general election emsimon33 Oct 2015 #96

Stop telling us you won't vote for Hillary upaloopa Oct 2015 #102

Say, I won't be voting for Hillary either... Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #103

Fine suit yourself upaloopa Oct 2015 #106

I agree and voting for a corporate shill is not mine. Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #108

I appreciate you kicking my thread Fumesucker Oct 2015 #111

I feel your pain. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #107

Wisihing pain on me won't make your own pain less Fumesucker Oct 2015 #110

I was wishing pain on you? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #115

I apologize and you step up the personal insults? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #116

People are discussing this the wrong way left lowrider Oct 2015 #112

There were similar statements said in 2012. joshcryer Oct 2015 #117

There was a contested primary in 2012? Fumesucker Oct 2015 #118

Oh, no, people were cheering Nader... joshcryer Oct 2015 #119

You make the mistake of equating DU workinclasszero Oct 2015 #124