2016 Postmortem

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104. K & R, pinebox!

Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:27 PM

Oct 2015

There is a LOT of blathering going on but most don't know what the hell they're talking about OR they do but they are just using "socialism" as a tool against all that don't support their Big Money, Bankster, Billionaire, War Machine, NO Change, Capitalist/Corprotist candidate.

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If you embrace socialism you should embrace both the social safety net as well as the high taxes [View all] hill2016 Oct 2015 OP

People who don't have any money shouldn't have to pay taxes. I'm a socialist. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #1

I would hope though that everyone who is able (even if they have no money) still contribute jonno99 Oct 2015 #2

"I would hope though that everyone who is able (even if they have no money) still contribute" Kalidurga Oct 2015 #77

What then is the social contract? What is the expectation for those who receive assistance from jonno99 Oct 2015 #94

look at Denmark's tax table as a template hill2016 Oct 2015 #4

So what? We pay tribute to the private health insurance companies and Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #9

to be fair. . . enid602 Oct 2015 #90

So what should someone making $50,000 pay in taxes if we want everything Denmark has? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #83

I don't really know. All I know is rich people should pay more and poor people should pay less. Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #85

You already flogged this horse -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #3

how many Sanders hill2016 Oct 2015 #6

The "plan" is increased taxation. Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #15

It's cheaper than what we have now AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #89

Maybe if you didn't raise it in such an annoying and conservatuve way Armstead Oct 2015 #18

Sanders has a plan to pay..Increased taxes on the very top earners whathehell Oct 2015 #33

I haven't seen any numbers hill2016 Oct 2015 #34

Um, we're not down to the smallest details yet, but I'm sure you can whathehell Oct 2015 #37

ok hill2016 Oct 2015 #38

No, I think whathehell Oct 2015 #66

Really? You come here with all your concern but haven't bothered to educate yourself? notadmblnd Oct 2015 #69

For Chrissakes there is plenty of money out there Capn Sunshine Oct 2015 #56

20 percent for defense? yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #91

They will be cheaper than what we have now AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #76

I would welcome the Denmark model and the higher taxes, if only it were possible here randys1 Oct 2015 #5

or maybe hill2016 Oct 2015 #7

YOu dont now what you are saying other than you are against taxes. You dont understand randys1 Oct 2015 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #11

Why do you include the Danish income tax rate in every one of these posts? whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #10

When you adjust for Americans then not paying insurance/medical AND elehhhhna Oct 2015 #16

They seem more concerned about image than the FAMILY Act. joshcryer Oct 2015 #12

And that's still less than the rate we had in the 60's Matariki Oct 2015 #13

You get a lot for your higher taxes. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #14

Well technically not Free healthcare Armstead Oct 2015 #19

True. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #23

sure hill2016 Oct 2015 #21

I donlt have kids and I pay for public schools. I'll probably never drive through Kansas but... Armstead Oct 2015 #25

hm... hill2016 Oct 2015 #31

As noted elsehere...That's always been the case Armstead Oct 2015 #35

but remember hill2016 Oct 2015 #39

The bill for everything gets added together into the budget on an ongoing basis Armstead Oct 2015 #42

oh hill2016 Oct 2015 #43

He does endlessly Armstead Oct 2015 #45

Armstead you are assuming an awful lot I think. nt redwitch Oct 2015 #48

Ooooooooooooooooo. Scary Denmark again. Have the talking points been handed out? Armstead Oct 2015 #17

No, they are trying a Mondale game on us. n/t sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #22

And it's gonna be 1972 all over again!!11! Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #41

my point is: hill2016 Oct 2015 #24

Let the American people decide issue by issue what's important to them Armstead Oct 2015 #28

sure hill2016 Oct 2015 #29

For every single program and every single war Armstead Oct 2015 #32

59% over 51K is Kang Colby Oct 2015 #20

Please show me exactly -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #26

Denmark. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #27

I wasn't aware that Denmark was legislating -- Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2015 #30

Bernie praises Denmark all the time. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #40

You somehow doubt that Bernie understands he isn't running for election in Denmark? frylock Oct 2015 #46

It's hard to say what a man who won't take... Kang Colby Oct 2015 #50

buh-bye. frylock Oct 2015 #52

Farvel (Danish) ..n/t Kang Colby Oct 2015 #55

Oh my neverforget Oct 2015 #54

Dude, obviously you were napping TM99 Oct 2015 #93

How often is "all the time"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #49

Enough to suggest he has a fetish for Denmark. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #53

Not an answer, how many times? And how does that fit the definition of "fetish"? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #57

Bernie's obsession with Danish policy is well documented. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #60

So is he more or less "obsessed" with Denmark than you are with guns? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #61

Bernie's obsession with Denmark is embarrassing. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #63

Well, you talk about guns all the time so you must have a "fetish" for them, no? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #65

Advocating for equal access to 2nd amendment protections... Kang Colby Oct 2015 #67

I just wanted to point out how absurd it is to accuse Bernie of having a "fetish" for Denmark. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #70

Thanks to you for proving my point. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #71

Thank you for proving mine! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #72

Maybe after Super Tuesday...Bernie can start his campaign in Denmark? Kang Colby Oct 2015 #73

Funny, I thought the gun fetishists were the ones living underneath things. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #75

I can appreciate your sense of humor. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #78

Back at you, Kang. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #79

I agree. n/t Kang Colby Oct 2015 #80

I Support THIS !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #36

And their Macdonald employees make over $20 an hour. Luminous Animal Oct 2015 #44

How much does Denmark waste on futile wars? Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #47

Whoa, DU today full of these scary socialism poste has this place gone full out libertarian? Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #51

This place is chock full of sock puppets of the right wing Capn Sunshine Oct 2015 #59

Yes, it is looking more and more like the TheThirdWayUnderground I have been watching Hillary, I Todays_Illusion Oct 2015 #64

You forgot the sales tax (vat) rate in Denmark 25%. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #58

Well, you can't have spending on infrastructure, the social well-being, delrem Oct 2015 #62

You're upset about taxes? I'm upset about wasted trillions for Hillary-sanctioned Iraq slaughter. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #68

Let's talk pinebox Oct 2015 #74

I am for high taxes on the wealthy. Too bad for you most people agree. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #81

All Democrats are for higher taxes on the wealthy. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #86

I doubt that taxes in that bracket will ever go that high so it's not even a debatable point. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #88

An observation ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #82

I SO miss unrec Hydra Oct 2015 #84

+1 Reading the OP, I thought I had stumbled onto "Reagan Underground" deutsey Oct 2015 #106

Disappointing That You Could Not Actually Make the Effort to Do Dollar Conversion The Roux Comes First Oct 2015 #87

Military expenditure (% of central government Defense spending) Denmark 3.2 United States 16.5 Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #92

Ok rebutting you pinebox Oct 2015 #95

+everything. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #96

Excellent post - K&R nt TBF Oct 2015 #98

Excellent Post pinebox! It's high time the US public pulls it's head out of its ass re Socialism 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #99

Damned well said! TM99 Oct 2015 #100

This needs to be its own post. geardaddy Oct 2015 #103

K & R, pinebox! SoapBox Oct 2015 #104

Excellent post! Kick! n/t in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #107

Low party count partisan ... Trajan Oct 2015 #97

I am content to use the profits capitalism creates to help those in need. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #101

The right has successfully villified taxes to the point where Americans are averse to paying them. cyberswede Oct 2015 #102

blah blah blah blah hillary's evil minions are hot today...... bowens43 Oct 2015 #105