2016 Postmortem

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1. Aren't you tired of this?

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If Hillary gets the nomination, I wonder how many disaffected dems will [View all] whatchamacallit Oct 2015 OP

Aren't you tired of this? Blus4u Oct 2015 #1

If by 'this' you mean whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #6

If you want change...it begins at home. FarPoint Oct 2015 #83

Basically, wait your turn artislife Oct 2015 #132

Well that sounds like a lot of work workinclasszero Oct 2015 #190

You might want to rethink the "spam internet polls" thing kristopher Nov 2015 #236

My guess @0. "Disaffected" don't do loyalty or any other vows. Hortensis Oct 2015 #221

Seems to be the topic of the day Gman Oct 2015 #2

yeah. That lesson is that no matter what happens, Dixiecrats will blame the left. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #77

Ain't that the truth.. whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #80

It's funny how there is always a reason to go rightward, isn't it? JRLeft Oct 2015 #81

Sadly, you're spot on here. TDale313 Oct 2015 #98

If more people would have voted for Nader, he would have won? nt artislife Oct 2015 #136

No. The people that did Gman Oct 2015 #165

Hillary voted for Nader? GummyBearz Oct 2015 #169

No it isn't. artislife Oct 2015 #170

Had Nader not run, 9/11 would have never happened Gman Oct 2015 #171

How about all those Dems artislife Oct 2015 #173

But it wasn't even a fair vote count Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #187

All this, and yet the blame goes to Nader... artislife Oct 2015 #188

So now Nader is responsible not only for the Bush stranger81 Oct 2015 #191

Not just now. I've been saying this Gman Oct 2015 #197

I didn't realize that Nader voted yea on IWR.. frylock Oct 2015 #194

It's becoming increasingly clear that many Sanders supporters have a problem with Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #3

Delgates are the not same as voters. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #19

delegates are awarded based on caucus and primary vote tallies. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #104

You need delegates to secure the nomination......... Historic NY Oct 2015 #205

I feel the whole delegate thing was intentional bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #225

IKR? workinclasszero Oct 2015 #102

Excellent point.... FarPoint Oct 2015 #128

Advocating against democracy? Fearless Oct 2015 #223

I think people are just tired of voting for people they don't believe in. You know, democracy. IokuA Nov 2015 #227

Really, when the alternative is ten thousand times worse? Maybe you need to look at the math randys1 Oct 2015 #4

I didn't say I wouldn't do it whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #10

Of course you do, but I am simply amazed when I see that kind of remark. randys1 Oct 2015 #15

Yes when the turkey caused salmonella to spread to all other foods. bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #20

I appreciate your point, randys1 whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #22

Why is it perfectly fine for one artislife Oct 2015 #199

is it a monsanto turkey turkey dinner? hopemountain Oct 2015 #144

So throw the victims of the GOP in the trash as well? randys1 Oct 2015 #145

thank you randys1 hopemountain Oct 2015 #149

the turkey is cooked and is trash. hopemountain Oct 2015 #189

Good post trumad Oct 2015 #18

Don't you guys get it? If people are having this difficult of a time forcing themselves to vote liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #125

Oh I get it, they dont. If your goal is to eliminate the lying , thieving rat bastard randys1 Oct 2015 #130

If it makes sense to you go ahead. It does not make sense to me. I will not do it anymore. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #133

What are you accomplishing? What will you say if Ted Cruz is president and he appoints someone randys1 Oct 2015 #135

Oh, so now if I don't vote for the nominee women will die. Nice blackmail, but it won't work. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #140

" If your goal is to eliminate the lying , thieving rat bastard politicians in both.." DJ13 Oct 2015 #152

about as many "PUMA" votes as Obama lost last time firebrand80 Oct 2015 #5

Im not sure I'm a Hillary supporter today. CincyDem Oct 2015 #7

Hillary and the DNC is counting on everyone falling in line artislife Oct 2015 #138

Perfect is the enemy of good CincyDem Oct 2015 #153

One can choose to vote for the DNC nominee or support the Republicans by not voting. I am not sure Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #8

This is the BS that needs to stop..... Sivart Oct 2015 #61

It is bs not to realize votes not cast for Democrats is not a positive for our Democtatic candidates Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #75

But it is BS.... Sivart Oct 2015 #122

Can you supply a link to that? artislife Oct 2015 #141

I missed on the percentage of 66%, it was 63%: Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #147

Thank you!! nt artislife Oct 2015 #150

The answer to this dilemma is to select better candidates. stranger81 Oct 2015 #192

It just makes me dig my heels in further. nt artislife Oct 2015 #139

there are other options restorefreedom Oct 2015 #79

Yes, Nader provided a lesson in voting for a third, did not work out very well. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #95

nader is not the reason 2000 went R restorefreedom Oct 2015 #112

If Nader had not been in there would have been more votes for Gore than Bush in Florida, the state Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #118

i care about those things too restorefreedom Oct 2015 #120

Gore and H seem to have the same problem with the Left artislife Oct 2015 #142

Nader denialism lives on. redstateblues Oct 2015 #158

200,000 registered Democrats in FL voted for W. jeff47 Nov 2015 #228

As far as I'm concerned voting for Hillary will be pointless. Dawgs Oct 2015 #9

Have you been under a rock? brush Oct 2015 #24

My explanation is Hillary. Dawgs Oct 2015 #40

Okay. See you in Nov. 2016 brush Oct 2015 #52

The problem is Hillary, not the republicans. n/t Dawgs Oct 2015 #55

So what are you saying? brush Oct 2015 #60

Absolutely she does have a much bigger upside. Dawgs Oct 2015 #64

We'll see then won't we. brush Oct 2015 #70

You keep repeating what the GOP have done in prior elections like that should mean something to me. Dawgs Oct 2015 #71

They haven't won since '88 without cheating . . . brush Oct 2015 #117

I think you're both wrong. The 2016 election is not in the bag for anyone. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #108

Correction since you seem to have misunderstood. The dem nominee will win. brush Oct 2015 #116

I didn't misunderstand you. I just disagree that it's a sure thing. (n/t) Jim Lane Oct 2015 #131

So, if Bernie gets the nomination, but I live in a state where he has no chance of winning onenote Oct 2015 #35

No. Didn't say that. n/t Dawgs Oct 2015 #42

I thought you said it's pointless to vote for someone who can't win. onenote Oct 2015 #49

I said... Dawgs Oct 2015 #51

So you were just talking about her inability to win your state and your decision to vote? onenote Oct 2015 #62

No. That's not what I'm saying. Dawgs Oct 2015 #67

LOL every vote adds to the total treestar Oct 2015 #184

If you don't support Clinton Robbins Oct 2015 #11

Most Dems will vote for Hillary Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #12

Rejoice whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #13

Rejoice why? Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #14

You said we could at least take pride in nominating a woman whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #17

She's the right candidate if you're a corporatist... Yurovsky Oct 2015 #168

Still think Jeb is going to become president after that pathetic debate performance? brush Oct 2015 #196

See post #24, you of the very low post count brush Oct 2015 #26

My guess is that there response is similar to mine. n/t Dawgs Oct 2015 #43

Whoever that is it's most likely a repug trying to get dems not to bother voting brush Oct 2015 #54

Sorry, I don't buy into the "low count" BS that some use to discredit others. n/t Dawgs Oct 2015 #57

So you don't think there are people paid to do that very thing? brush Oct 2015 #58

I think it against TOS rules to point out low posts and to call anyone a troll. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #208

I didn't call anyone a troll. brush Oct 2015 #219

Oh sorry, 'tr lls'. i wonder what you meant by that? nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #220

Sorry, explaining to someone "We have a lot of paid tr_lls who visit here . . . brush Oct 2015 #222

Wow. Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #66

We have a lot of paid tr_lls who visit here to discourage people from voting brush Oct 2015 #72

I assure that is not my goal at all Jan Bunson Oct 2015 #76

No need to blame her low post count for people no voting Hillary. Hillary supporters have done in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #195

I've got 4 times your post count. Am I allowed to speak? jeff47 Nov 2015 #229

You do realize the poster proclaimed Jeb Bush would win the presidency, right? brush Nov 2015 #239

You realize the post has more content than that, right? jeff47 Nov 2015 #240

I think I'll go with Nate Silver . . . brush Nov 2015 #242

ever heard of cathartic hypothisis ? olddots Oct 2015 #84

It will be easy, because I will see who else is on the ballot and choose the best of the available Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #16

Aren't you tired of this fear game you are playing? NCTraveler Oct 2015 #21

Isn't "follow your principles and help a republican win" a fear game? whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #23

You are taking part in "you are either with us, or against us." NCTraveler Oct 2015 #32

Sorry, don't know what to tell you whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #38

"Despite your assurances that Jeb and Hillary are miles apart, I disagree." NCTraveler Oct 2015 #46

Deal with it whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #48

I agree that you are not alone. Neither is Trump. Look at his poll numbers. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #53

Lots of bogus assumptions there whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #59

Truly not one assumption. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #63

Are you insinuating something about my identity and purpose for participating on this site? whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #65

"Are you insinuating" "How old are you?" NCTraveler Oct 2015 #69

Sorry you're displeased whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #73

I don't sign loyalty oaths or vote for labels. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #25

What a horrible, selfish person you are whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #29

you must a privileged, selfish person restorefreedom Oct 2015 #86

Thanks. I'll ask my chauffeur what he thinks. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #90

and gassing up the limo! :) restorefreedom Oct 2015 #94

One of the limos. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #100

ho ho! an entire fleet! heh. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #113

Very good. 840high Oct 2015 #161

It's The Young Ones I Worry About The Most... WillyT Oct 2015 #27

oh, please. you and I and a bunch of us have lived through decades of disappointment onenote Oct 2015 #47

This is so true. Codeine Oct 2015 #175

Well then they're fuckin' idiots. Codeine Oct 2015 #177

You Know That... I Know That... But Many New Kids Full Of Hope Have Not Been Made... WillyT Oct 2015 #179

Plus... "YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT" Has A Really Low Electoral Approval Rating... WillyT Oct 2015 #185

I've never pledged loyalty to any party. Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #28

Only once before have I felt so terrible about voting for a jwirr Oct 2015 #30

I feel ya whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #33

You guys and gals are really doubling down. MoonRiver Oct 2015 #31

The American people are losing whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #34

I guess calling people losers will get them to support your candidate in the future. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #209

Enough to be certain that the next POTUS.... 99Forever Oct 2015 #36

You don't seem to understand national presidential politics very well. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #37

Enlighten me whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #39

Primaries and the genreal election are two different things. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #41

Right whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #45

For you, you mean. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #210

People need to know this.............. thelordofhell Oct 2015 #44

Don't be so sure Robbins Oct 2015 #50

boy are you on a roll today Sheepshank Oct 2015 #68

You and fellow centrists are getting what you want Robbins Oct 2015 #74

Just like they did to Obama? mythology Oct 2015 #97

Obama and Hillary are much, much, much closer in political ideology Maedhros Oct 2015 #127

Sanders isn't a Democrat, though. Codeine Oct 2015 #182

Democrats will vote for the nominee BainsBane Oct 2015 #56

Interesting theory. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #212

Another StayHomeUnderground thread. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #78

No, I'll vote whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #87

I'm not really referring to you ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #89

I'll do it whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #99

I have little doubt that if HRC gets the nomination dirtydickcheney Oct 2015 #82

She'll also lose the Ge - BIG TIME. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #126

Agreed - she'll lose the GE dirtydickcheney Oct 2015 #134

Exactly. They must protect their gravy train and they know Bernie isn't going to play along with in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #143

If Hillary getst the nom, I wonder how many disaffected "dems"... SidDithers Oct 2015 #85

no alterations required restorefreedom Oct 2015 #88

Wondering if it goes back to "you cannot criticize"... dirtydickcheney Oct 2015 #93

i think commenting on policies is ok restorefreedom Oct 2015 #111

I will most likely leave of my own accord whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #91

Promise?... SidDithers Oct 2015 #101

I won't promise, but it's a high probability whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #105

Or you could do what I have promised to do. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #215

Well then we won't be hearing much from you after she is nominated.... Walk away Oct 2015 #92

Likely true <cue thunderous applause> whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #96

And I'm sure we'll get the blame when Hillary loses the GE. God I can really see why liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #137

I don't think she will lose but only cause the GOP is a mess this time around. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #217

Give it a rest and go knock doors for Bernie. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #103

Thanks whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #106

Me too! emulatorloo Oct 2015 #107

You've reminded me whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #110

If you'll blame Clinton for winning, will you blame Sanders for losing? randome Oct 2015 #109

Well, seeing as he was always a long shot whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #114

I never took that pledge. rateyes Oct 2015 #115

What is your agenda posting this? You want the republican candidate to win? B Calm Oct 2015 #119

Sure, the sore losers can stay home and give the Republicans the WH. Beacool Oct 2015 #121

We have lost the House, the Senate, and the majority of Governorships, Zorra Oct 2015 #123

Most of the 83.1 million millennials will stay home and THIS Progressive will vote Green Party in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #124

I agree about the Millennials and I too will be writing Bernie's name in and voting Green down liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #129

Another Naderite. Thanks for giving us Bush redstateblues Oct 2015 #160

They will? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2015 #148

The time-honored political tradition Codeine Oct 2015 #181

Another woe-is-me Bernie fan post. Give it a rest. nt Adrahil Oct 2015 #146

Why wouldn't dems want Hillary nominated Timber4598 Oct 2015 #151

Vote for whomever you want. NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #154

Thank you. I think you are probably the first poster I have seen that has not tried to blame the liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #156

The Democratic Party will lose many votes. azmom Oct 2015 #155

Isn't it funny Sheepshank Oct 2015 #157

It's easy to be magnanimous when your candidate is the frontrunner and you're certain she will win whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #201

It will be get easier as the time nears to cast your vote. DCBob Oct 2015 #159

we're not talking about the political geeks ibegurpard Oct 2015 #172

AFAIK the party loyalty pledge is an internet thing. IRL, Clinton supporters obtained Hillary merrily Oct 2015 #162

yes, the internet is a very convenient medium for anonymously bullying people. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #163

I will do my best not to even seem as though I am trying to bully you. merrily Oct 2015 #164

Ah, thanks merrily. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #166

I'm not convinced Hillary's SC picks would be anything to write home about. winter is coming Oct 2015 #174

I have been posting at DU too long. I know how the recorded message responds to that. merrily Oct 2015 #176

It's a wild card but we will see. mmonk Oct 2015 #167

Man, if you guys spent half as much energy Codeine Oct 2015 #178

Same as in 2012. joshcryer Oct 2015 #180

why feel that strongly anti-Democratic? treestar Oct 2015 #183

Wake up, nobody is buying this simplistic white hat/black hat bullshit anymore whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #204

You've got the WRONG clues -- lots of them, What. Hortensis Nov 2015 #226

How about educating yourself? jeff47 Nov 2015 #230

You think you have it tough NOW, Jeff47? Hortensis Nov 2015 #234

She's the flip side of the same old establishment coin whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #235

Oh, we were just fucked over in the transition. That makes it all better! jeff47 Nov 2015 #237

Actually an outspoken HRC supporter has convinced me that it won't matter if it's HRC or a Repub. aikoaiko Nov 2015 #241

If we throw a vote away out of principal olddots Oct 2015 #186

The real peril is younger voters staying home. Vinca Oct 2015 #193

Of course. We kids have been sacrificed many times to protect Medicare and Social Security jeff47 Nov 2015 #232

Oh no. Not this again. NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #198

No idea. MineralMan Oct 2015 #200

+1 from a Sanders supporter onenote Oct 2015 #202

What Party Loyalty Pledge cantbeserious Oct 2015 #203

The unstated, but none the less expected one n/t whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #214

One Must Belong To A Sect That Does this One cantbeserious Oct 2015 #216

Thank gawd I don't do pledges. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #206

I've never made a party loyalty pledge so I don't have one to honor. Autumn Oct 2015 #207

:) whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #218

I have not, nor will I ever made a "party loyalty pledge." 99Forever Oct 2015 #211

Clinton Inc has got this ibegurpard Oct 2015 #213

Hmmm decisions decisions ...vote for the good or vote for who can win. L0oniX Oct 2015 #224

Don't think of it Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #231

When the policy differences come down to jeff47 Nov 2015 #233

If Hillary gets the nomination silenttigersong Nov 2015 #238