2016 Postmortem

NanceGreggs

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57. No, he's not.

Thu Oct 22, 2015, 08:11 PM

Oct 2015

If BS is "similar" to Obama, how do you explain all of BS's supporters declaring they support Bernie because he's NOT Obama? If BS is "similar" to Obama, why did he want Obama primaried in 2012?

The revisionist history being promoted here is astounding. What's obvious is that BS is stagnating in the polls as HRC surges ahead. So now the "BS is NOT Obama" crowd are suddenly trying to convince people that if you liked Obama, you'll love Bernie.

No sale. You can peddle that bullshit as much as you like - but nobody's buying.

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The logical reason that Bernie will win. [View all] retrowire Oct 2015 OP

.... Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #1

And keep in mind, Sanders isn't running any ads yet. jeff47 Oct 2015 #2

This is a really good point. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #4

Um, you're only talking about Democratic voters. The biggest voting bloc in the country right now sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #12

Hillary's zero crossover appeal can be seen... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #47

Will the media take Bernie's money Plucketeer Oct 2015 #40

Yes. It buys hookers and blow just as well as Clinton's money. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #62

Full out laugh! artislife Oct 2015 #89

:hattip: (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #93

Ok. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #3

Thank you for reading and posting. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #5

More than the youth voted for Obama treestar Oct 2015 #6

false. retrowire Oct 2015 #8

As against far fewer electable opponents treestar Oct 2015 #52

I am an Obama supporter now for Bernie. I remember the exact same claims 'he can't win' etc sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #15

You are not an Obama supporter for a very long time treestar Oct 2015 #50

keep those fingers crossed! retrowire Oct 2015 #56

I voted for Obama twice artislife Oct 2015 #91

Not true - I actively volunteered for Obama TBF Oct 2015 #108

There is another factor zalinda Oct 2015 #7

That is the elephant in the room . TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #10

IMO - you are right. 840high Oct 2015 #31

Exactly... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #58

I reckon we'll see. cwydro Oct 2015 #9

I hope you are right sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #11

True. retrowire Oct 2015 #60

Thumbs up! SoapBox Oct 2015 #13

I don't know how many times ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #14

He's not Obama at all. That's why he's a better candidate. arcane1 Oct 2015 #18

That "loser" is still the front-runner. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #19

Where have I heard all that before...? arcane1 Oct 2015 #22

Again the assumption ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #24

You must have some even stronger, harsher words for O'Malley supporters n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #25

O'Malley supporters aren't convinced he's going to win. nt Codeine Oct 2015 #55

As a dispassionate observer I must give you this round. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #26

This subthread is even more hilarious than the OP Number23 Oct 2015 #27

Thanks, Number23! NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #30

Disingenuous, Nance. senz Oct 2015 #33

Bernie has only one speech ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #48

Obviously you've never listened to him. senz Oct 2015 #61

Sadly, I have listened to him ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #66

I'm going to let Nance Greggs write my posts from now on Codeine Oct 2015 #53

That's one silly rebuttal ... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #71

If BS's messsage is resonating with people ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #75

And, thank dog he isn't zalinda Oct 2015 #97

you assume too much which is not true JI7 Oct 2015 #16

thank you for reading and posting. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #21

I supported Obama in 2007, actually, wanted him to run for years before that. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #17

i was hoping someone like you would post in here! retrowire Oct 2015 #20

Because I supported Obama then. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #23

Same here ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #28

that does not explain why you didnt support hillary then retrowire Oct 2015 #29

Yes, it does. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #32

these details are much more helpful retrowire Oct 2015 #35

No. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #39

ahhhh retrowire Oct 2015 #43

Again, no. I have a fundamental disagreement with the basis of Socialism. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #45

A Democratic Socialism retrowire Oct 2015 #51

Democratic Solcialism is simply imposing the socialism econimic system via a democratic political... MohRokTah Oct 2015 #67

Okay. retrowire Oct 2015 #69

What you describe has precisely nothing to do with governmental control of the means of production. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #72

Oh? retrowire Oct 2015 #76

No. Regulation of commerce is clearly a power spelled out in the constitution. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #77

but the important detail left out in your definition is retrowire Oct 2015 #78

By definition, that is solved through democratic representation. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #79

which is perfectly possible within a democratic socialist system. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #80

And I will oppose such a system being implemented with the last breath in my body. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #81

Even though it's fair and would protect people from being oppressed retrowire Oct 2015 #82

I believe it is unfair and oppresses people through a bureaucratic nightmare MohRokTah Oct 2015 #83

Well how do you believe it oppresses people then? n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #84

The same way you believe corporations oppress people. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #85

Then you have greatly misunderstood me retrowire Oct 2015 #86

Worse would happen under a bureaucratic nightmare through government control of the means of... MohRokTah Oct 2015 #90

facepalm* retrowire Oct 2015 #99

One word. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #102

yeah and? retrowire Oct 2015 #104

No matter how well Democratic Socialists attempt to make it work MohRokTah Oct 2015 #106

alright hillary then, but wait! retrowire Oct 2015 #110

You are not convincing me MohRokTah Oct 2015 #113

dat aint democratic socialism lol try again retrowire Oct 2015 #115

Hugo Chavez and his entire government were democratically ELECTED. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #118

being elected democratically retrowire Oct 2015 #119

Yes, it is. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #120

thank you for your time. retrowire Oct 2015 #121

I don't understand your confusion. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #34

does it explain why they didn't support kucinich biden Richardson etc ? JI7 Oct 2015 #37

why would it? n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #41

Well Old Codger Oct 2015 #36

oh i meant no disrespect old timer. retrowire Oct 2015 #38

No sweat Old Codger Oct 2015 #42

Clinton was the anti-Obama in 2008; now she's on our team and Sanders is the anti-O. ucrdem Oct 2015 #44

.... retrowire Oct 2015 #46

No comparison whatsoever. None. ucrdem Oct 2015 #49

lol ok retrowire Oct 2015 #54

I heard exactly what he said. ucrdem Oct 2015 #63

So he said "I am the anti-Obama" retrowire Oct 2015 #65

That particular phrase he whistled. ucrdem Oct 2015 #68

Okie dokie! n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #70

No, he's not. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #57

Exactly. ucrdem Oct 2015 #73

That actually makes some sense, in a way. Hillary always seems to hitch her wagon to falling stars. reformist2 Oct 2015 #74

Your logic is only halfway there. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #59

Well it's not just millenials! retrowire Oct 2015 #64

Where does that figure come from? Codeine Oct 2015 #87

If we elect h, we will lose artislife Oct 2015 #92

Except Sanders isn't showing that he is able to win the African American vote mythology Oct 2015 #88

Latina here artislife Oct 2015 #94

There's been a sea change as the primary season progresses Babel_17 Oct 2015 #95

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! You are exactly right and let's throw in Clinton fatigue, Anti Wall St. - in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #96

can't see how anyone could ignore this stuff. retrowire Oct 2015 #101

Never gonna happen. He's a gun-nut. Beausoir Oct 2015 #98

keep dancing! retrowire Oct 2015 #100

Bernie isn't going to get anywhere as large of a share of the African-American vote as Obama Freddie Stubbs Oct 2015 #103

but i'm not talking about racial demographics in this op. n/t retrowire Oct 2015 #105

Ignoring racial demographics is ignoring the key to the nomination Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #125

buuut retrowire Nov 2015 #126

Exactly. In 2008 I was not "youth" - TBF Oct 2015 #107

No, Bernie is not "appealing to the very same people that Obama had enchanted." Skinner Oct 2015 #109

i call those people retrowire Oct 2015 #111

I was actually referring to a specific group of people. Skinner Oct 2015 #112

I'm gonna go with... retrowire Oct 2015 #114

Yes, I was referring to African Americans. Skinner Oct 2015 #116

By "very same people" retrowire Oct 2015 #117

I am a Black voter, and Sanders appeals to me noiretextatique Oct 2015 #122

Despite prophecy being anything but logical, I admire your faith in it. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #123

Kick and R BeanMusical Oct 2015 #124

I ignore the BS, Nonsense Questions fredamae Nov 2015 #127

+1 nt retrowire Nov 2015 #128