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2016 Postmortem

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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:59 PM Oct 2015

Only Bernie Sanders Can Prevent Donald Trump From Sitting in the Oval Office [View all]

Well, this is interesting.
I cherry picked the snippets, the whole article is an interesting read.


Only Bernie Sanders Can Prevent Donald Trump From Sitting in the Oval Office
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/only-bernie-sanders-can-prevent-trump_b_8367286.html

Hillary Clinton is a polarizing figure for both Republicans and many progressives. Even with polls extolling Clinton's lead within the Democratic Party, underlying data shows that low voter turnout could result in a GOP victory. A CBS News article titled Hillary Clinton still leads Democratic race http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hillary-clinton-still-leads-democratic-race/ undermines its own title by stating some inconvenient truths regarding favorability numbers:
Just under half of Democratic primary voters nationwide say they would enthusiastically support Clinton if she became the party's nominee. Twenty-seven percent would support her with some reservations and another 11 percent would only back her because she is the nominee. Fourteen percent would not support her in a general election.


In order for any Democrat to win in 2016, a nominee can't have "fourteen percent" of Democratic voters staying home on Election Day and not supporting Clinton in an election. Since there are progressives supporting Bernie Sanders who make me look like Huma Abedin, the possibility of a mutiny of progressives on Election Day, if Clinton is the nominee, isn't just hyperbole. Also, it doesn't bode well for Democrats when "twenty-seven percent would support her with some reservation" and "11 percent would only back her" to prevent a Republican in the White House.

Already, polls show Bernie Sanders beating Trump by a wider margin than Clinton http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-defeats-trump-by-a-wider-margin_b_8345156.html . I explain in detail why Sanders can defeat Trump in this YouTube segment. Furthermore, while Sanders showed immense class in saying "Enough of the emails!" Trump would harp endlessly on every scandal and controversy (real or fabricated) associated with both Clintons.

Against Bernie Sanders, Trump would be on the defensive. Everyone knows the reality show host never worries about finances or cares about wealth inequality, or other issues that endear a candidate to the average voter. Bernie Sanders, because he's the antithesis of Trump, would shine in any televised debate and offer voters a clear choice. Because he energizes progressives and the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders is the only hope for Democrats in 2016. From Supreme Court nominees to the future of our country, only Bernie Sanders can prevent Donald Trump from making historic decisions in the Oval Office.

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Sanders has about 25% support upaloopa Oct 2015 #1
The general is over a year out AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #7
You're forgetting pinebox Oct 2015 #15
Bernie Sanders is no Barack Obama. (I'm sure that will be turned around) George II Oct 2015 #99
You say that as if it was a bad thing. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #102
You're right that odds are against BS getting the nomination thesquanderer Oct 2015 #31
Please... Plucketeer Oct 2015 #72
"Just"25% support at this time? Tell that to Obama and he'll fall out of his chair laughing . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #79
We are determined to fight the big money candidate to the end. How Democrats can gloat and side rhett o rick Oct 2015 #98
Magic and Politicub Oct 2015 #101
Glitter is awesome BainsBane Oct 2015 #103
Not yet Politicub Oct 2015 #104
Sanders has about 25% support workinclasszero Oct 2015 #113
ok. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #2
Yea right FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #3
uh huh. n/t zappaman Oct 2015 #4
Actually heads up Oct 2015 #95
Hillary will garner huge voter turnout. YUUUGE. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #5
Yeah, turnout to vote against her Reter Oct 2015 #14
LOL. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #17
But HRC's YUUUGE turnout could be the Repubs voting against her! ;-) (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2015 #21
They always have big turnout. Hillary will turn out waaay more though. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #54
Yeah.... daleanime Oct 2015 #51
I really do not think that will be the case. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #82
The millennials have already proven in 2012 they don't vote for pretenders. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #83
This is complete garbage SharpProgress Oct 2015 #6
No it's actually not pinebox Oct 2015 #11
I read the article, the title of this thread... SharpProgress Oct 2015 #28
Oh please pinebox Oct 2015 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Oct 2015 #89
Wow... WillyT Oct 2015 #8
Donald Trump isn't a serious candidate AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #9
It is very unlikely that Trump will even be the GOP nominee. MineralMan Oct 2015 #10
I don't know pinebox Oct 2015 #12
In 08' Huckabee won Iowa repub Caucus, 2012 Santorum took it emulatorloo Oct 2015 #25
Could you try to be a little consistent? onenote Oct 2015 #30
Yes, apparently the Koch Bros are considering purchasing Rubio emulatorloo Oct 2015 #16
. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #13
Ya go figure. pinebox Oct 2015 #20
There is one thing that allows me to sleep well at night. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #26
Yes because Bernie is so bad pinebox Oct 2015 #27
He is a Socialist MohRokTah Oct 2015 #29
You're in luck! Absolutely no candidate is proposing that. arcane1 Oct 2015 #33
You are silly. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #34
And please link to where ANY candidate proposes that. You can't. arcane1 Oct 2015 #35
Bernie Sanders has referred to himself as a Socialist on many occasions. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #37
So you FAILED to provide a link. Red-bating is what republicans do to frighten the ignorant. arcane1 Oct 2015 #40
I need provide no link as Sanders has described himself as a Socialist on multiple occasions MohRokTah Oct 2015 #43
Ah, I see what you're doing here! Sorry it took me so long. arcane1 Oct 2015 #48
this poster is clearly 5 years old...at most. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2015 #67
He's a Dem Socialist pinebox Oct 2015 #41
Go back to the nineties. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #44
Oh you want to go back to the 90s do ya? pinebox Oct 2015 #61
She never called herself a Socialist MohRokTah Oct 2015 #62
hey you said the 90s pinebox Oct 2015 #66
She's now a Corporatist Plucketeer Oct 2015 #73
I'll take a "Corporatist" over a self avowed Socialist any day of the week... MohRokTah Oct 2015 #84
we could go back to the 80's and it would still apply to Bernie...no evolving Sheepshank Oct 2015 #87
Sure let's do that pinebox Oct 2015 #88
Don't waste your time, they don't ACTUALLY believe what they are posting. arcane1 Oct 2015 #49
when the media turns their attention to bernie they wont call him a democratic socialist saturnsring Oct 2015 #58
Denmark pinebox Oct 2015 #63
count me in as well but that stuff isnt free and the media can use the price tag to end b.s. chances saturnsring Oct 2015 #68
Your 1950s thinking is quaint AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #112
That is a lie AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #111
Democratic socialists don't believe in government control of means of production AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #110
Your Heaven awaits in Somalia... kristopher Oct 2015 #114
You apparently don't know anything about socialism then.... blackspade Oct 2015 #116
Me too and thank goodness! leftofcool Oct 2015 #97
great photos! nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #53
But can he prevent forest fires? Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #18
hmmm pinebox Oct 2015 #36
H A Goodman. LOL...nt SidDithers Oct 2015 #19
Not Goodman pinebox Oct 2015 #23
Oh FFS. Do you never research the writers you quote? onenote Oct 2015 #22
You mean like all these on The Googlez? pinebox Oct 2015 #24
Yet you chose to build an OP based not on any of those sources, but on the least credible one onenote Oct 2015 #32
Shoot the messenger much? pinebox Oct 2015 #38
When its not a credible messenger, yes. onenote Oct 2015 #46
You seem to have to ask that question over and over and over... JTFrog Oct 2015 #50
Then why highlight Goodman? Best to use your other sources. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #39
Yawn. pinebox Oct 2015 #42
It is tactical advise about how to persuade voters to vote for Bernie emulatorloo Oct 2015 #45
Trump has already acknowledged this. He says he wants Hiillary to win the nomination because 'she sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #47
yes, and because of trumps mixed policy positions, restorefreedom Oct 2015 #56
because we should always believe everything Trump has to say? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #57
Bernie is beating him in the polls! And he knows that. So do we. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #77
no one has challenged or attacked Bernie ...once they do............ Sheepshank Oct 2015 #85
I was just explaining why Trump said what he said! And you need to learn a bit more about sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #86
and you need to learn that Bernie is being coddled..... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #92
I really don't know why anyone on DU would promote Trump as a truth-teller emulatorloo Oct 2015 #59
Who's promoting him as a truth teller? He's looking at the 'scientific' polls we hear so much about sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #80
IMHO it is better to quote the polls than quote asshole lying Republicans. emulatorloo Oct 2015 #93
And I'm sure the biggest asshole on earth Codeine Oct 2015 #60
Glad you care what Donald Trump says about our party. zappaman Oct 2015 #70
I knew H. A. Goodman wrote this crap before I even looked. moobu2 Oct 2015 #52
Oh you did? pinebox Oct 2015 #64
FEEEEAR! JaneyVee Oct 2015 #55
Facts! pinebox Oct 2015 #65
Trump won't be the nominee WI_DEM Oct 2015 #69
Ah, finally some common sense DFW Oct 2015 #71
Donald Trump will do a fine job of beating Donald Trump. Gore1FL Oct 2015 #74
Exactly what I was thinking. Just let him keep talking and tweeting Persondem Oct 2015 #96
Bernie!! AzDar Oct 2015 #75
And only Bernie Sanders can recover one or more houses of Congress. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #76
Problem is Robbins Oct 2015 #78
It's a simple argument that HRC supporters are afraid to address Android3.14 Oct 2015 #81
Trump isn't going to be the Republican nominee... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #90
oh gosh, you're right. This isn't really an issue is it!! nt Sheepshank Oct 2015 #91
If H.A was paying attention he would see Trump is already slipping... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #94
I agree with this article. Bernie is the answer for the nomination, not Clinton. While admirable, moabfan Oct 2015 #100
Why? Is he going to steal his chair when he and Donald take a tour.... Walk away Oct 2015 #105
So true. n/t InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #106
That's silly talk. First, Rubio or Bush will stop Trump. If they fail, Clinton is not as strong as Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #107
Good read and analysis. GoneOffShore Oct 2015 #108
DSB is anything but unfair. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #115
Very doubtful as Trump will need about 42% of the Hispanic vote to win Quixote1818 Oct 2015 #117
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