2016 Postmortem

Kentonio

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138. As head to head national polls against potential GOP rivals dont seem to satisfy you

Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:50 PM

Oct 2015

Perhaps you might tell me which states that Obama won in 2012 that you think Sanders would lose to the GOP in a hypothetical 2016 race?

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Democrats� destructive Bernie Sanders myth: Stop saying he can�t win! [View all] pinebox Oct 2015 OP

I live in a red state, therefore, I know many, many Republicans. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #1

I live in the reddest part of East Tennessee R. P. McMurphy Oct 2015 #15

We are not going to carry Tennessee and we don't need to oberliner Oct 2015 #27

I wish you luck with that strategy. eom R. P. McMurphy Oct 2015 #31

If Bernie carries Tennessee we will win in an unprecedented landslide oberliner Oct 2015 #34

Sorry. I didn't grasp the point you were making. R. P. McMurphy Oct 2015 #59

Even here in "Liberal" New York State RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #44

My supervisor (RW ass) says SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2015 #61

I'm in Wisconsin madwivoter Oct 2015 #65

He will have my vote and my support. djean111 Oct 2015 #2

Exactly. coyote Oct 2015 #60

UNREC brooklynite Oct 2015 #3

Okay. You believe on that myth, go ahead. moabfan Oct 2015 #5

Unrec your unrec...You're jumbling up what it says Armstead Oct 2015 #25

Saying HRC is stronger doesn't mean BS can't win thesquanderer Oct 2015 #39

Why did you even answer? .... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2015 #53

You missed the times when I said I had no issues with Bernie's policies? brooklynite Oct 2015 #85

Not only can Bernie win the GE, dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #97

Well stated Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #105

Who ever wins the Democratic Primary will win the General. Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #102

I wouldn't be so sure of that Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #109

Bernie's got strong social media and Internet presence moabfan Oct 2015 #118

read this on dKos today... druidity33 Oct 2015 #108

So you stand by Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, the author of the 2014 Democratic losses? moabfan Oct 2015 #116

Talk about calling kettle black treestar Oct 2015 #113

All it takes is voting. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #4

I'm in it for the long haul...the same as Bernie. haikugal Oct 2015 #6

"It would be extraordinarily difficult for Sanders to win the presidency � there�s no way to avoid" JTFrog Oct 2015 #7

Nuance and intelligent 3D analysis can make one dizzy Armstead Oct 2015 #28

LOL! JTFrog Oct 2015 #29

Well I was serious.... in a snarky kind of way Armstead Oct 2015 #36

I really like Bernie. JTFrog Oct 2015 #50

A story my parents told me from 1948. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2015 #8

Well, Bernie Sanders cant win. You want people to lie and say he can? moobu2 Oct 2015 #9

Sure he can. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #10

+10000 n/t MissDeeds Oct 2015 #11

I believe Bernie has a better chance also. No one is going to influence my choice by telling me SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #71

+1 moabfan Oct 2015 #119

Why can't he? MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #14

When I write his name in, it won't be a fucking game, let me assure you. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #16

Is that why Bernie does better in a general than Hillary? pinebox Oct 2015 #17

So we go from FAUX "Solidarity" Yesterday with the Benghazi hearings.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2015 #19

If there is so much at risk to play games. RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #42

The Bernie Sanders supporters are the ones playing the games. moobu2 Oct 2015 #48

Male bovine excrement... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2015 #57

This is simply your personal opinion. RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #93

It's my opinion that is soundly based upon facts. moobu2 Oct 2015 #104

"Facts" as YOU see them RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #106

Games? Armstead Oct 2015 #47

That's what it sounds like to me RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #95

Sanders can win, but he's unlikely to do so mythology Oct 2015 #12

Again we are being ordered treestar Oct 2015 #13

Sure pinebox Oct 2015 #20

BS would lose on McGovern levels treestar Oct 2015 #110

Is that why Bernie does better than Hillary in a general against Republicans? pinebox Oct 2015 #111

Not really relevant at this point treestar Oct 2015 #112

It's relevant pinebox Oct 2015 #115

I'd have to see those polls treestar Oct 2015 #117

Here's a PPP one for you. Kentonio Oct 2015 #121

That's one state treestar Oct 2015 #122

Yes Hillary is currently leading against the Rs too Kentonio Oct 2015 #125

Yep, his ordering folks to listen to Ann Coulter couple days ago certainly opened some eyes. n/t JTFrog Oct 2015 #23

Here's my take on "electability" Armstead Oct 2015 #18

I am likewise being driven crazy by that meme. SheilaT Oct 2015 #21

He could win but.. DCBob Oct 2015 #22

All depends on how you look at it Armstead Oct 2015 #43

I don't think so zalinda Oct 2015 #63

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #24

Are people not entitled to their opinion? firebrand80 Oct 2015 #26

Opinion, sure pinebox Oct 2015 #30

Of course it's misinformation. RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #41

Oh, Chafee just dropped out.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2015 #33

Your continued support for Chaffee is greatly appreciated moabfan Oct 2015 #126

K&R. The "he can't win" meme is telling Populist_Prole Oct 2015 #32

Well, the good thing is.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2015 #35

Nice Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #37

Bernie Sanders isnt even a Democrat moobu2 Oct 2015 #38

Another statement that has to be squashed. RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #40

Well, Bernie Sanders himself said he was using the Democratic Party moobu2 Oct 2015 #51

Well, the Democratic Party is allowing him to run on their ticket, so Live and Learn Oct 2015 #69

But they aren't supporting him and they shouldnt moobu2 Oct 2015 #76

Don't be ridiculous, They aren't supposed to support anyone in the primary. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #77

Honestly.. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2015 #81

But they ARE giving tacit support to him RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #130

you don't get to decide that treestar Oct 2015 #114

What the hell difference does that make? He is the moral choice, a candidate Live and Learn Oct 2015 #68

Who cares if Bernie isn't a democrat? pinebox Oct 2015 #83

You realize it benefits the Democratic party also? RichVRichV Oct 2015 #84

Labels can indeed, be rather important to an undisciplined mind. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #91

YES WE CAN!!! sound familiar? That's right, Time for a Change!! Feel the Bern? MasonDreams Oct 2015 #45

A month and a half ago, I talked to someone close to his campaign DFW Oct 2015 #46

I ask those who don't think Bernie can win if they are going to vote for him 4dsc Oct 2015 #49

Already Bernie does better against Trump than hillary does. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #52

If you are labeling Democratic candidates ... DrBulldog Oct 2015 #54

Today Hillary spent 11 hours standing up to . . . clowns. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #55

If people voted morally for the good of all people and the earth, Bernie would win Live and Learn Oct 2015 #56

Thank you for thinking it through. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #66

Ironically, Bernie may be the better GE candidate Bernblu Oct 2015 #58

Thanks for thinking it through. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #67

...and this is why I find arguments about Bernie's electability unconvincing... brooklynite Oct 2015 #87

Who do you think showed up to vote for Obama? jeff47 Oct 2015 #90

Indeed humbled_opinion Oct 2015 #62

But but but Hillary supporters are so abused Phlem Oct 2015 #64

It comes down to this SmittynMo Oct 2015 #70

Just how - specifically - is Bernie going to bring COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #127

Something that is unspoken is yesterday could be a preview of a Hillary presidency.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #72

With Hillary as the nominee the people can't win. Broward Oct 2015 #73

what about "the people" that voted for her? brooklynite Oct 2015 #88

I don't care what "they" say. I am voting for Bernie in the primary and the general. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #74

Yes, he can win. madfloridian Oct 2015 #75

Bingo Populist_Prole Oct 2015 #79

The only reason they say Sanders can't win is... MohRokTah Oct 2015 #78

Why do you resort to lies? Kentonio Oct 2015 #124

It's not a lie MohRokTah Oct 2015 #132

Which is why the polls show him beating the GOP candidates? Kentonio Oct 2015 #136

Show me three polls each from all fifty states that show he can get 270 electoral votes. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #137

As head to head national polls against potential GOP rivals dont seem to satisfy you Kentonio Oct 2015 #138

Unassailable logic - prepare for it to be COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #128

I feel the Bern, but I'm also... SharpProgress Oct 2015 #80

As the NYS Lottery jingle goes - "you can't win it if you're not in it". Inasmuch as.... George II Oct 2015 #82

The reality is neither one can win if the two camps don't unite behind whomever gets the nomination onenote Oct 2015 #86

Democratic power brokers don't WANT him to win. ibegurpard Oct 2015 #89

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #92

Kick and R BeanMusical Oct 2015 #94

Many modern Democrats have been neutered to the point mhatrw Oct 2015 #96

you describe the slow death of democracy Fairgo Oct 2015 #98

He's got a better chance than Hillary in the general eelction jfern Oct 2015 #99

Sanders is mobilizing the voters who stayed home in 2010 and 2014 eridani Oct 2015 #100

Bernie can win if the BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #101

If people that work for a living vote their best interests, a myth will not have relevance and lonestarnot Oct 2015 #103

It might be a bit exaggerated but it's not a myth. DCBob Oct 2015 #107

In America, your toughness is tested. If Bernie can't stand the heat now, how will he have any.... AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #120

This is true treestar Oct 2015 #123

I'd feel much better about supporting him if I COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #129

Thirty years a thin record? RoccoR5955 Oct 2015 #131

I'm talking about legislative accomplishment, not COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #133

And, to answer your second point COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #134

It's all they've got. hifiguy Oct 2015 #135