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In reply to the discussion: But Bernie’s been consistent!!!! [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)6. Nice try but no cigar: Legislatively, Bernie Sanders Accomplished More Than Hillary Clinton Ever Did
Bernie sponsored 3 and co-sponsored 203 - all of which were signed into law:
https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B"bill-status"%3A"law"%7D
Your creative editing of the facts didn't work the first time you tried it, why would you think it would work now?
https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B"bill-status"%3A"law"%7D
Legislatively, Bernie Sanders Accomplished More Than Hillary Clinton Ever Did
Sanders has been very effective in looking after the most vulnerable sectors of his country's society, Alternet suggested, as he passed bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care, the website added.
As difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members, said the author of the Alternet article, Zaid Jilani.
Alternet reminded readers that between 1994 and 2006 Sanders crowned himself as the amendment king despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives.
He proved to be more efficient and pro-active than right-wingers like Bob Barr and John Boehner, Jilani wrote.
The veteran senator from Vermont passed exclusively progressive amendments, which was particularly original in Congress. He pushed forward his objectives to reduce poverty, help the environment, by achieving bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable, as well as progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.
Also, Sanders became the first lawmaker to ever achieve an audit of funds given out by the Federal Reserve, bringing transparency to over US$2 trillion of funds handed out by the secretive organization, Alternet added.
Alternet offered a long list of the major amendments Sanders has effectively pushed forward, including the February 1995 Corporate Crime Accountability amendment, as well as the Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers in April 1998. This just to mention a few of the many efforts that translated into benefits, including protection measures for troops, for reduction of poverty, for affordable healthcare and many more.
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/33106-bernie-sanders-accomplished-more-than-hillary-clinton-ever-did
Sanders has been very effective in looking after the most vulnerable sectors of his country's society, Alternet suggested, as he passed bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care, the website added.
As difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members, said the author of the Alternet article, Zaid Jilani.
Alternet reminded readers that between 1994 and 2006 Sanders crowned himself as the amendment king despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives.
He proved to be more efficient and pro-active than right-wingers like Bob Barr and John Boehner, Jilani wrote.
The veteran senator from Vermont passed exclusively progressive amendments, which was particularly original in Congress. He pushed forward his objectives to reduce poverty, help the environment, by achieving bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable, as well as progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.
Also, Sanders became the first lawmaker to ever achieve an audit of funds given out by the Federal Reserve, bringing transparency to over US$2 trillion of funds handed out by the secretive organization, Alternet added.
Alternet offered a long list of the major amendments Sanders has effectively pushed forward, including the February 1995 Corporate Crime Accountability amendment, as well as the Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers in April 1998. This just to mention a few of the many efforts that translated into benefits, including protection measures for troops, for reduction of poverty, for affordable healthcare and many more.
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/33106-bernie-sanders-accomplished-more-than-hillary-clinton-ever-did
Bernie Sanders record of pushing through major reforms will surprise you
I'm a progressive, but Im a progressive who likes to get things done, Hillary Clinton said at the first Democratic debate, in response to a question from moderator Anderson Cooper about whether she defines herself as a moderate or a progressive.
The implication was that progressive Bernie Sanders is too far to the left to accomplish anythingall of his ideas are pie-in-the-sky. You have to be able to find the bipartisan, warm, purple space as Clinton said earlier this year, to get anything done. Slates Jamelle Bouie was super-impressed by this rationale, saying Clinton has skilled use of bureaucratic power.
The problem with this narrative is that it is completely false. Not only has Sanders gotten a lot more things done than Clinton did in her own short legislative career, hes actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.
The Amendment King
Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members.
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As if things didnt look bad enough, in 1994 the Republicans swept into power in the House of Representatives, dashing the hopes of many that Congress could do anything progressive whatsoever. But Sanders was not content with tilting at windmills. He didnt want to just take a stand, he wanted to pass legislation that improved the United States of America. He found his vehicle in legislative amendments.
Amendments in the House of Representatives are often seen as secondary vehicles to legislation that individual members sponsor, but they are an important way to move resources and build bipartisan coalitions to change the direction of the law. Despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives between 1994 and 2006, the member who passed the most amendments during that time was not a right-winger like Bob Barr or John Boehner. The amendment king was, instead, Bernie Sanders.
https://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/bernie-sanders-record-of-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you/
I'm a progressive, but Im a progressive who likes to get things done, Hillary Clinton said at the first Democratic debate, in response to a question from moderator Anderson Cooper about whether she defines herself as a moderate or a progressive.
The implication was that progressive Bernie Sanders is too far to the left to accomplish anythingall of his ideas are pie-in-the-sky. You have to be able to find the bipartisan, warm, purple space as Clinton said earlier this year, to get anything done. Slates Jamelle Bouie was super-impressed by this rationale, saying Clinton has skilled use of bureaucratic power.
The problem with this narrative is that it is completely false. Not only has Sanders gotten a lot more things done than Clinton did in her own short legislative career, hes actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.
The Amendment King
Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members.
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As if things didnt look bad enough, in 1994 the Republicans swept into power in the House of Representatives, dashing the hopes of many that Congress could do anything progressive whatsoever. But Sanders was not content with tilting at windmills. He didnt want to just take a stand, he wanted to pass legislation that improved the United States of America. He found his vehicle in legislative amendments.
Amendments in the House of Representatives are often seen as secondary vehicles to legislation that individual members sponsor, but they are an important way to move resources and build bipartisan coalitions to change the direction of the law. Despite the fact that the most right-wing Republicans in a generation controlled the House of Representatives between 1994 and 2006, the member who passed the most amendments during that time was not a right-winger like Bob Barr or John Boehner. The amendment king was, instead, Bernie Sanders.
https://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/bernie-sanders-record-of-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you/
Your creative editing of the facts didn't work the first time you tried it, why would you think it would work now?
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And Sanders comes off as an old man yelling at clouds with no accomplishments in the Congress.
MohRokTah
Oct 2015
#3
Nice try but no cigar: Legislatively, Bernie Sanders Accomplished More Than Hillary Clinton Ever Did
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#6
Read the info at my link and tell me which part you disagree with. Tia!
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#12
206, read them and weep. And edit your op if you want to salvage your credibility.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#20
Read the damned info at the link: Bill Type/Status of Legislation/Became Law: 206
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#24
Another lie: https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#33
http://congress-bills.insidegov.com/d/a/Sen.-Bernard-%E2%80%9CBernie%E2%80%9D-Sanders-%5BI-.-VT%5D/S
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#57
Nope, 206. If you count the bills Hillary cosponsored you have to count Bernie's as well.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#81
Go to my link, look at the 206 bills and tell me which ones don't count.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#93
I cited the info at the link, you chose to believe it doesn't exist.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#119
Did you go to my official government link? 3 bills listed on the official government link.
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#124
206 in all, just like Hillary if you count cosponsored bills the total is 206.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#128
From your op: Hillary Clinton ... sponsored 713 bills, COSPONSORED 2,676
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#135
So how does she stand today on fracking? The TPP? Her support of the Iraq War? The XL Pipeline?
rhett o rick
Oct 2015
#113
killjoy....the OP might have gained some traction with the braindead, at least until
NorthCarolina
Oct 2015
#123
Those crappy graphics look like they came from freerepublic, and they don't count.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#21
Bernie voted and spoke out against the war your candidate wanted and voted for.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#27
Yes, he gets credit for voting and speaking out against it, thank you.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#37
90 gun deaths a day. Thanks Bernie for allowing gun manufactures to be exempt from liability.
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#72
How did the PLCAA legislation kill people? And how many Iraqi kids died?
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#83
How does that kill people? Explain it without repeating talking points.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#99
You are not allowed to cut and paste entire articles, you've been told this before.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#103
You aren't my boss and are acting like a bully by flooding my post with harassment:
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#110
So Bernie wasn't responsible for those deaths. Thank you for admitting it!
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#43
You said Bill signed it into law, so his votes against it didn't kill anyone.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#65
Bernie made gun manufactures exempt from liability and has consistently supported the NRA until now:
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#75
No he didn't that's another lie. And how many dead Iraqi children paid for her position?
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#79
More Americans have died from gun violence than in Iraq -- 30,000 a year -- thanks Bernie
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#85
Another lie: Bernie consistently voted for assault weapon bans and background checks.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#86
A lie: Bernie Sanders’ critics misfire: The Vermont senator’s gun record is better than it looks
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#97
The author of the article is a moron, and again, stop posting the entire article.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#106
According to the definition, Hillary is more of a gun nut than Bernie:
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#121
Hillary has always been in favor of hunters and is CURRENTLY in favor of hunters. WTF?
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#126
When did Hillary vote against the Brady Bill 5 times or give immunity to the gun industry?
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#132
And I notice you didn't include the MANY amendments Bernie got passed in his time,
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2015
#9
Have you looked into Bernie and the funding of weapons for Israel during the last Summer?
bravenak
Oct 2015
#87
I go with which group treats me best personally. That way I know my voice will not be shouted down.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#105
And you believed that Saddam was responsible? What is wrong with you?
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#61
For you to be bale to say this in retrospect must make you feel pretty cool, LOL
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#80
No, since that vote sent my brother to Ramadi I'm not feeling cool at all.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#84
You claim Hillary's not responsible. She voted for it, she owns it. Even she knows that.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#100
She voted for an authorization bill not the war itself (HUGE DISTINCTION THAT YOU IGNORE)
JTShroyer
Oct 2015
#104
She voted for the Iraq war, so your slogan should be: she believed Bush and people died.
beam me up scottie
Oct 2015
#109