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Oilwellian

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56. And then there were the child refugees...

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:24 PM

Oct 2015

pouring over our border as a result of the violent instability caused by the coup.

Immigrant America: Murder and Migration in Honduras

Hillary explains why the child refugees should be sent back to a certain death. She loves and cares for women and children so much. (Note: she attempts to blame the increased violence and instability caused by the coup, on the drug cartel instead.)

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Democratically elected Honduran president, ousted by coup, describes Hillary Clinton: [View all] Vattel Oct 2015 OP

I don't believe that anyone questions Hillary's intelligence and capability. djean111 Oct 2015 #1

Exactly. She's smart. That's not what scares me about her. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #29

Clinton's on the Privatization of Mexico's National Oil Industry since the year 2000? TPP ready? DhhD Oct 2015 #85

Lots of people are intelligent. It's that she doubts OUR intelligence that bother me. She truly sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #69

She's very intelligent but I struggle with the "capable" - TBF Oct 2015 #82

"she is very weak in the face of pressures... from the most extremist right-wing sectors of the U.S" wyldwolf Oct 2015 #2

he was talking about foreign policy hawks. Vattel Oct 2015 #4

I know what he was talking about wyldwolf Oct 2015 #6

Doesn't mean we should be enabling it with our votes. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #7

that's a matter of opinion. But your op is emphatically wrong wyldwolf Oct 2015 #8

I don't care where she got them from, the MIC is doubling down, and she will enable djean111 Oct 2015 #9

you cared enough to post a misleading quote. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #10

You do know that this is not my OP, right? n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #11

I do now. But when someone comes in and defends an OP, and answers for the OP... wyldwolf Oct 2015 #13

Why is admitting you were wrong so damn difficult? cui bono Oct 2015 #58

psst. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #59

And with that retort, I expect I can rely on you to never complain about a Bernie supporter. cui bono Oct 2015 #63

It's comical the way some Bernie supporters interpret things. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #64

The quote is not misleading. You tried to mislead by suggesting Vattel Oct 2015 #14

It's definitely misleading wyldwolf Oct 2015 #15

see post 17 Vattel Oct 2015 #18

I did, and the second part is your opinion wyldwolf Oct 2015 #20

That's one reason I stand slightly apart from the Democratic Party. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #36

The lesson is she can defend *herself*, not others cprise Oct 2015 #24

You seem to have left out Goldwater for some reason. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #26

because this has nothing to do with Goldwater. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #38

These were your words, not mine. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #45

you do realize Goldwater wasn't a Democrat, right? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #46

Never pass up a chance to do a little liberal bashing I see. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #49

Through all that writing you still miss a specific point wyldwolf Oct 2015 #50

Progressive critique, nice touch there. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #51

I can't deny or confirm. Why don't you prove it? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #53

So even you think just because Hillary said she was friends and consulted with Kissinger A Simple Game Oct 2015 #61

How did you get THAT conclusion from what I wrote? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #62

I can't get any conclusion from what you wrote because you just won't deal with the reality. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #65

So you made up that conclusion? Not surprised. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #66

You're missing the point that YOU said more than that, you added "hardly from right wing extremists" cui bono Oct 2015 #57

So, she defended herself...good for her. She did a good job. passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #76

Agreed! Hillary didn't have a foreign policy Obama did:One President at a time lewebley3 Oct 2015 #33

Excellent response Thespian2 Oct 2015 #22

Nearly everyone agrees that war is sometimes the right choice. Vattel Oct 2015 #17

So now you're speaking for yourself, not the "Democratically elected Honduran president" wyldwolf Oct 2015 #21

The democratically elected Honduran president spoke for himself. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #37

You're comparing Iraq to World War 2, to justify your candidate's hawkishness. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #74

Not the same thing. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #32

What America saw on Thursday was Hillary defending herself, whathehell Oct 2015 #80

He gets it. When the MIC applies the pressure, Hillary caves in, is a willing accomplice. reformist2 Oct 2015 #3

Has she challenged her Saudi friends on women's rights? Divernan Oct 2015 #23

Is that her job, or indeed, the US job? treestar Oct 2015 #40

I do think she likes most women and children artislife Oct 2015 #70

I am voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton.... stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #5

Let's try to stay on topic. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #34

I was wondering. artislife Oct 2015 #71

It is certainly perceived to be Red, in Mexico. See my reply up thread. DhhD Oct 2015 #86

The only possibility away from this pattern is to vote for Bernie. mmonk Oct 2015 #12

Have you seen O'Malley's strong comments on Israel/Palestine? askew Oct 2015 #54

I wish it were a choice between Bernie and O'Malley artislife Oct 2015 #72

Me too, me too. askew Oct 2015 #77

Or Larry Lessig freedom fighter jh Oct 2015 #81

Right. We've witnessed that here: Her IWR vote, her vote for The Patriot Act, her hawking for war in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #16

Lanny Jesse Davis Downwinder Oct 2015 #19

Speaking of... Oilwellian Oct 2015 #41

Also, you can't buck the MIC. Downwinder Oct 2015 #44

Well, there you have it... KansDem Oct 2015 #25

Zelaya is just pandering to his supporters, telling them what they want to hear...but he is Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #27

She's guided by political ambition. azmom Oct 2015 #28

Always her #1 priority. Nothing demonstrates that more clearly sammythecat Oct 2015 #35

Well put. But she didn't just reluctantly vote for the War she tried to sell it to other rhett o rick Oct 2015 #67

And Bernie is not? treestar Oct 2015 #91

No. He is not. sammythecat Oct 2015 #96

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #30

Hillary was Secretary of State. PeoViejo Oct 2015 #31

She was Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #52

So he did not get what he wanted for Honduras treestar Oct 2015 #39

Was she? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #47

Not the actions of a progressive. Excellent link. Thanks. Had to bookmark that one. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #55

And then there were the child refugees... Oilwellian Oct 2015 #56

I wish she would get locked in a room with the likes of Noam Chomsky for three months lostnfound Oct 2015 #60

Gosh, that would be tougher than the hearing she just went through! nt artislife Oct 2015 #73

So you claim she and Obama went against our own interests now? treestar Oct 2015 #84

This is what I believe, newly elected President Obama had only been a Senator for four years Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #88

what motive would Hillary have for treestar Oct 2015 #90

In support of the oligarchs and U.S. corporations wanting to profit from the poverty of that nation, Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #92

Well that source certainly sounds objective. treestar Oct 2015 #93

Why is it our job to not call a military coup, a military coup when it is a military coup? Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #94

We are not supposed to recognize coup governments. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #95

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #42

But..but..she is a strong willed politician who makes "Hard Choices"!! Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #43

Right on, man! nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #68

It's not just Clinton, but most in DC. Gregorian Oct 2015 #48

In the face of all of this information Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #75

I am voting for Hillary Clinton. leftofcool Oct 2015 #78

Surprise! senz Oct 2015 #89

Ugh. Forgot about this fiasco. .. riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #79

"Ambiguous" is another term for "evolving" and they all mean the same thing Android3.14 Oct 2015 #83

and then send back anyone who flees! MisterP Oct 2015 #87

K & R, unacceptable - nt dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #97