2016 Postmortem

artislife

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137. I know you support Hillary now.

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 07:51 PM

Oct 2015

I don't.

That is what it is.

My choice of candidate has nothing to do with which group treats me best personally. You had an awful experience here. You do what you must. I don't hate you for your choice or belittle you or think badly of you. I just won't vote the way you do in the primaries. I will still support my candidate.

I am experiencing this post as being mad at me for supporting Bernie while you no longer do. I don't know if that is true or not, but you are a grown woman with her own needs and issues that are important to you. You must vote in your best interest. If that is Hillary, great. Vote for her.

This is a board of opinions, as I see it. Just opinions bonking each other on the head, sometimes gently laying out an argument, other times exuberantly shouting its joy for its candidate. It's the very nature of the beast.

If I were an O'Malley supporter I would still post my opinion of my candidate. Elleng isn't rebuffed by the sheer numbers of people who don't care if her candidate drops out or not. My voting for Bernie has little to do with the members of this site. I came in supporting him looking for people who did as well. If they all left tomorrow, I would not change my vote because of it.

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But Bernie’s been consistent!!!! [View all] JTShroyer Oct 2015 OP

But, but but!!! CORPORATIST!!! TURD WAY!!!!! TRIANGULATE!!!! MohRokTah Oct 2015 #1

Hillary did so well yesterday!! JTShroyer Oct 2015 #2

And Sanders comes off as an old man yelling at clouds with no accomplishments in the Congress. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #3

Such a newb. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #4

My favorite story... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #5

Nice try but no cigar: Legislatively, Bernie Sanders Accomplished More Than Hillary Clinton Ever Did beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #6

Well done! PatrickforO Oct 2015 #8

206 bills signed into law AND the amendment king! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #10

Why do they even try? azmom Oct 2015 #14

Love you back, azmom! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #17

Wrong: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #11

Read the info at my link and tell me which part you disagree with. Tia! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #12

Read my link and tell me which part you disagree with! JTShroyer Oct 2015 #16

206, read them and weep. And edit your op if you want to salvage your credibility. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #20

Why do you include amendments? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #22

Read the damned info at the link: Bill Type/Status of Legislation/Became Law: 206 beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #24

teleSUR is a legitimate source? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #29

Another lie: https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #33

http://congress-bills.insidegov.com/d/a/Sen.-Bernard-%E2%80%9CBernie%E2%80%9D-Sanders-%5BI-.-VT%5D/S JTShroyer Oct 2015 #57

Another lie. 206 bills, all of them are BILLS, not amendments. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #69

3 JTShroyer Oct 2015 #77

Nope, 206. If you count the bills Hillary cosponsored you have to count Bernie's as well. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #81

Link: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #89

Go to my link, look at the 206 bills and tell me which ones don't count. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #93

Go to my link? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #96

Bzzt. Fail. We're done here. :) beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #107

I gave you an official government link JTShroyer Oct 2015 #112

I cited the info at the link, you chose to believe it doesn't exist. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #119

Did you go to my official government link? 3 bills listed on the official government link. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #124

206 in all, just like Hillary if you count cosponsored bills the total is 206. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #128

"if you count cosponsored" -- WTF are you even doing? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #130

From your op: Hillary Clinton ... sponsored 713 bills, COSPONSORED 2,676 beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author JTShroyer Oct 2015 #143

Sorry kiddo, but your link is NOT...I repeat...NOT passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #162

Telesur enid602 Oct 2015 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #154

How would you know? zappaman Oct 2015 #156

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #159

Lol! zappaman Oct 2015 #161

So how does she stand today on fracking? The TPP? Her support of the Iraq War? The XL Pipeline? rhett o rick Oct 2015 #113

There you go again, bmus. hifiguy Oct 2015 #118

The woo is strong in this one. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #125

Some other things, too. hifiguy Oct 2015 #131

I'm trying to do this logically but they're resisting. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #138

Logic bounces off of some people hifiguy Oct 2015 #139

killjoy....the OP might have gained some traction with the braindead, at least until NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #123

Lol! Don't hate me for my facts. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #127

So, what, a Hillaryclintonsupporter is making things up? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #133

They're a member? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #140

I dunno. It's an apt descriptor, though. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #142

+1 LWolf Oct 2015 #148

I still won't crash positive threads about Hillary. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #151

Here's another HRC speech, why didn't you include it? 99Forever Oct 2015 #7

Revisionist History to Hurt Hillary JTShroyer Oct 2015 #13

Bernie "didn’t do anything to actually stop it." That is a lie: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #15

Wrong (yet again): JTShroyer Oct 2015 #18

Those crappy graphics look like they came from freerepublic, and they don't count. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #21

Bernie Sanders funded the Iraq War. Period. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #23

Bernie voted and spoke out against the war your candidate wanted and voted for. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #27

And Bernie funded it. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #34

Yes, he gets credit for voting and speaking out against it, thank you. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #37

I never denied he gets credit for voting against it!?!? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #45

Your words: "yet didn’t do anything to actually stop it." beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #51

He knew the authorization would pass, though? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #66

How many dead because of the IWR that Hillary voted for? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #68

90 gun deaths a day. Thanks Bernie for allowing gun manufactures to be exempt from liability. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #72

How did the PLCAA legislation kill people? And how many Iraqi kids died? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #83

It stripped citizens of their power to hold the gun manufactures accountable JTShroyer Oct 2015 #95

How does that kill people? Explain it without repeating talking points. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #99

Just because you don't accept my answer: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #101

You are not allowed to cut and paste entire articles, you've been told this before. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #103

You aren't my boss and are acting like a bully by flooding my post with harassment: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #110

It's a copyright violation to post the entire article. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #114

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #120

Did you want him to abandon our troops after Hillary got them sent there? think Oct 2015 #32

Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #42

Hillary made vets artislife Oct 2015 #40

This! Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #55

+10000000 azmom Oct 2015 #60

+10000000 beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #67

Hillary fought for healthcare for vets JTShroyer Oct 2015 #78

I do. artislife Oct 2015 #82

Then don't vote for her JTShroyer Oct 2015 #90

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #155

Bernie funded the troops after Hillary's vote helped put them in harms way. Autumn Oct 2015 #91

Are you a pacifist? If you support azmom Oct 2015 #26

That's really not fair RandySF Oct 2015 #59

This. Beartracks Oct 2015 #163

LOL She was duped by Bush. azmom Oct 2015 #19

Bernie created a country where 90 people die a day from gun violence. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #25

How did he do that? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #28

Voting against the Brady Bill 5 times. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #31

And it passed anyway. How many people died because of the PLCAA? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #35

So glad PRESIDENT CLINTON signed the Brady Bill into law. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #38

So Bernie wasn't responsible for those deaths. Thank you for admitting it! beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #43

Yes. Bernie was responsbile. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #49

How? You just said the Brady Bill passed so he's not responsible. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #52

The Brady Bill still exists? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #58

You said Bill signed it into law, so his votes against it didn't kill anyone. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #65

Bernie made gun manufactures exempt from liability and has consistently supported the NRA until now: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #75

No he didn't that's another lie. And how many dead Iraqi children paid for her position? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #79

More Americans have died from gun violence than in Iraq -- 30,000 a year -- thanks Bernie JTShroyer Oct 2015 #85

Another lie: Bernie consistently voted for assault weapon bans and background checks. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #86

You don't care about the dead Iraqis and soldiers? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #88

Bernie has consistently been pro-gun throughout most of his career JTShroyer Oct 2015 #92

A lie: Bernie Sanders’ critics misfire: The Vermont senator’s gun record is better than it looks beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #97

Bernie Sanders -- Gun Nut: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #102

The author of the article is a moron, and again, stop posting the entire article. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #106

I gave you an answer -- you call the article's author a "moron": JTShroyer Oct 2015 #117

According to the definition, Hillary is more of a gun nut than Bernie: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #121

Hillary has always been in favor of hunters and is CURRENTLY in favor of hunters. WTF? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #126

So she's a gun nut according to the definition? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #129

When did Hillary vote against the Brady Bill 5 times or give immunity to the gun industry? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #132

Does she fit the definition of a "gun nut" or not? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #136

Even Obama called Hillary Annie Oakley.nt artislife Oct 2015 #44

And how many people did Annie Oakley kill? okasha Oct 2015 #108

Hillary? artislife Oct 2015 #111

Annie Oakly. okasha Oct 2015 #134

She voted to give Bush the power to go to war. Many people knew better. Armstead Oct 2015 #41

Revisionist? 99Forever Oct 2015 #47

Yup, your post is indeed revisionist history Scootaloo Oct 2015 #144

And I notice you didn't include the MANY amendments Bernie got passed in his time, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #9

Hillary's total doesn't include amendments? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #36

If they did Aerows Oct 2015 #48

Hillary's bills she put forward and passed. artislife Oct 2015 #50

In addition to: JTShroyer Oct 2015 #63

But she has cluster bombed the eff artislife Oct 2015 #73

As a brown person artislife Oct 2015 #74

Have you looked into Bernie and the funding of weapons for Israel during the last Summer? bravenak Oct 2015 #87

None of the candidates have a good record on Brown people artislife Oct 2015 #94

I go with which group treats me best personally. That way I know my voice will not be shouted down. bravenak Oct 2015 #105

I know you support Hillary now. artislife Oct 2015 #137

Meh. Support is relative. bravenak Oct 2015 #141

There is a lot of shit artislife Oct 2015 #146

When it is used against blacks by whites... bravenak Oct 2015 #147

I remember it. artislife Oct 2015 #149

This time was worse for blacks than the last time with Hill. bravenak Oct 2015 #150

Good luck to all of us artislife Oct 2015 #152

So, he's getting more "pointed" against Clinton...well, then don't Gloria Oct 2015 #30

Sitting pretty? LOL azmom Oct 2015 #39

So she voted to start a war against Iraq because of 9/11??? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #46

Bush told us that, yes. He told everyone that. JTShroyer Oct 2015 #53

And you believed that Saddam was responsible? What is wrong with you? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #61

For you to be bale to say this in retrospect must make you feel pretty cool, LOL JTShroyer Oct 2015 #80

No, since that vote sent my brother to Ramadi I'm not feeling cool at all. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #84

How am I defending it? JTShroyer Oct 2015 #98

You claim Hillary's not responsible. She voted for it, she owns it. Even she knows that. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #100

She voted for an authorization bill not the war itself (HUGE DISTINCTION THAT YOU IGNORE) JTShroyer Oct 2015 #104

She voted for the Iraq war, so your slogan should be: she believed Bush and people died. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #109

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #122

alert results irisblue Oct 2015 #145

Just an example of how consituents play into votes... Gloria Oct 2015 #56

Except some knew better, they knew Bush lied and what would happen: beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #62

That had nothing to do with constituents and azmom Oct 2015 #70

Laudy laudy .... 99Forever Oct 2015 #64

That's like the third time I've seen that recently. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #71

H has always chosen to go on the attack artislife Oct 2015 #54

Except her constituents were against the war. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #115

Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote frazzled Oct 2015 #76

Thank you so much! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #153

The Rabid Hillary-Bros V0ltairesGh0st Oct 2015 #157

Yep. Just another consistent piece of whopping BS from a Clinton supporter. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #158

Vermont.... SharpProgress Oct 2015 #160