2016 Postmortem

WorseBeforeBetter

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97. The comparison wasn't between blacks and whites.

Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:07 PM

Oct 2015

This is about you claiming to speak for other black people, and how presumptuous that is. Of course, the hallelujah chorus will be along any moment to back you up, but there is life beyond DU's protected groups and the Clinton Cave. Which, by the way, has only 9 people online right now. Solidarity, people! Show the site a little love!

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How many Black Politicians has Bernie Sanders stumped for? I can only find Jesse Jackson. [View all] bravenak Oct 2015 OP

Bernie Sanders has never stumped for any Democrat, much less a PoC leftofcool Oct 2015 #1

Do we know the reason? bravenak Oct 2015 #2

I don't know. What do you think his supporters would say? leftofcool Oct 2015 #4

None of them ever get back to me. bravenak Oct 2015 #5

"It hurts"? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #17

Smiling at you, my friend. bravenak Oct 2015 #32

Good. And hopefully developing some thicker skin through the smile. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #54

Wonderful advice!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #172

I'm sure he's supported some Democrats... BlueCheese Oct 2015 #13

Upward mobility in govt is a social justice issue. bravenak Oct 2015 #30

He stumped for Obama Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #40

And Obama stumped for him too AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #71

yes he did Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #129

That should be a thread in itself azurnoir Oct 2015 #175

That was quite a flip flop after calling for Obama to be primaried. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #176

Chuy Garcia is not a Democrat? think Oct 2015 #8

Jesse Jackson wasn't a Democrat? LWolf Oct 2015 #50

Sorry, Jesse Jackson was and is a Democrat. He was a candidate for the Democratic presidential still_one Oct 2015 #69

He stumped for Peter Shumlin. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #186

That is a lie. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #192

Has Bernie ever campaigned or raised money for a Democrat before? RandySF Oct 2015 #3

This is what I want to know also. bravenak Oct 2015 #6

He's helped raise money for the DSCC (among the deep pockets funders) brooklynite Oct 2015 #7

Yes Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #10

Thank you. Chuy Garcia, Jesse Jackson. bravenak Oct 2015 #15

Here's my thing, bravenak...on something very important! Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #9

I can bring the weed too!! bravenak Oct 2015 #12

By all means! Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #21

Damn Bravenak and Kev msrizzo Oct 2015 #43

Yes!!! You damn straight you can!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #53

I'm bringing BTA and his husband JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #177

Yay!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #180

Ya'll take trips with welfare checks? leftofcool Oct 2015 #36

Silly, you get the rest of it from your sugar daddy... msrizzo Oct 2015 #49

Aha! Knew it had to come from somewhere! leftofcool Oct 2015 #56

"Twinks and rough trade"? Classy. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #72

I'm black AND LGBT... Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #79

How did WillyT enter into this? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #103

Not as confused as I am by somebody trying to dictate to ACTUAL black people what black stereotypes Number23 Oct 2015 #162

I guess you don't get sarcasm? leftofcool Oct 2015 #82

Meh. It came across as someone who just learned what Fire Island is... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #105

If you like something a little sweet I'll bring the Cointreau Number23 Oct 2015 #160

I'll bring tequila, lovemydog Oct 2015 #171

Deal, baby! Number23 Oct 2015 #195

Sorry, my Google Fu is weak. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #11

I'm posting to answer this question in a real way later after I get through with folks playing games bravenak Oct 2015 #24

Bernie Sanders didn't stump for Obama but he did endorse Barack Obama in 2008 & 2012 think Oct 2015 #14

Thank you!! This is good. bravenak Oct 2015 #16

I was wrong. Bernie did stump for Obama in 2008 think Oct 2015 #44

Awesome! bravenak Oct 2015 #52

the insinuation game Enrique Oct 2015 #18

No answers then? Okay. bravenak Oct 2015 #20

i'm sure if you get any answers, they won't count Enrique Oct 2015 #31

I got Chuy Garcia already. He's not black but still I think I accept any poc as an answer. bravenak Oct 2015 #41

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #64

Did that happen? bravenak Oct 2015 #66

Yes Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #86

Ok. I guess I can accept those he endorsed as well as those who endorsed him. bravenak Oct 2015 #94

Bottom feeding AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #75

Heard a great interview on the radio today he did on Tavis Smiley's show. mucifer Oct 2015 #19

Sadly, Tavis Smiley is on the list of personas not gratas with Cornel. bravenak Oct 2015 #22

Not everyone agrees with your list. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #27

Most black folks do who follow politics. We discuss them constantly. Go look. bravenak Oct 2015 #46

You speak for "most" black people? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #62

I speak for them more than say, a white person? Yeah. I think I do. bravenak Oct 2015 #65

The comparison wasn't between blacks and whites. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #97

lol, if that were Tom Joyner, I'd be impressed Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #34

Is your internet search feature broken? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #23

I love how you always show up for me when I am in need. bravenak Oct 2015 #25

You seem to be "in need" a lot. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #42

Thank you ever so! bravenak Oct 2015 #47

Politicians of all colors and stripes azmom Oct 2015 #63

Who better to cash in with after office than the Clintons? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #68

I think I'll catch a Movie on Netflix instead. azmom Oct 2015 #73

I just spent nearly three hours with "The Tin Drum"... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #101

How many PoC office holding Democrats have stumped for Bernie? 99Forever Oct 2015 #26

They have to do something for him first? Okay. bravenak Oct 2015 #33

You gawddamn right they do. 99Forever Oct 2015 #38

I do not think black people owe. bravenak Oct 2015 #48

Straight up truth. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #151

I lack emotion for these candidates. Amazing how not loving them makes one see things. bravenak Oct 2015 #153

Results of your jury service: Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #131

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #28

I was talking about Bernie. bravenak Oct 2015 #35

And Cheese Sandwich is talking about Hillary. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #116

Cheese Sandwich can start a thread then. bravenak Oct 2015 #118

Cheese Sandwich starts many threads. But thisn'll do just fine. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #126

Kewl! bravenak Oct 2015 #127

S/he did start a thread about it thesquanderer Oct 2015 #135

So it was a dismissive, smart-ass reply of Hillary's? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #144

I agree, not racist. As for dismissive or smart-ass... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #150

Bernie Sanders gave them the Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #39

Holy crap. I can't believe she actually said that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #61

While that was a bit of a tone deaf moment for Hillary Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #76

Media is giving her a pass Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #106

DU can't handle the truth Cheese Sandwich Oct 2015 #124

Looks like they couldn't handle your latest comment either jfern Oct 2015 #163

Out of context. See post #135 (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2015 #136

I was reading several weeks ago that some of the black groups were using the phrase LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #29

Thank you. bravenak Oct 2015 #37

Ok... What did you just say... I am an old fart.. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #59

Sorry. bravenak Oct 2015 #70

Yep. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #80

My grandma was. Scrubbed thousands of miles of floors but never got ss on her work. bravenak Oct 2015 #81

So unjust. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #85

I tend to agree, social justice still takes a long time. We have come a long way, but I think LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #88

I agree with everything u just said. bravenak Oct 2015 #98

This. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #157

Great post. bravenak Oct 2015 #158

Left can mean a whole lot of things. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #168

I am not real sure this is a relevant question. Remember jwirr Oct 2015 #99

That is a good point. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #108

Even many of us political junkies did not know much about jwirr Oct 2015 #110

The only reason I did SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #114

Ed Schultz was my introduction to him. jwirr Oct 2015 #119

And now they're making MSNBC a clone of NBC. nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #121

Yeah I know. I am not a tv watcher but I really miss the jwirr Oct 2015 #134

Obama Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #45

Yep. Obama. I count Chuy Garcia too. bravenak Oct 2015 #55

Thanks for counting Chuy. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #84

Since noone brought up the name yet Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #51

Yep. I saw that. I like him. bravenak Oct 2015 #58

I adore him. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #78

I'm an atheist too. bravenak Oct 2015 #83

Kinda? How about "very"? SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #87

Lol bravenak Oct 2015 #95

bravenak, you need to STOP! Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #91

Heh. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #92

My shucking and jiving will conceal my non jesus praising ways! bravenak Oct 2015 #93

Oh Lordie. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #96

I tend to have that effect on people!! bravenak Oct 2015 #113

Well, at least they'll be awake! nt SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #117

Now, why does your post make me think of The Color Purple? leftofcool Oct 2015 #104

My favorite movie!!! bravenak Oct 2015 #111

I absolutely adore Keith. He is very good at what he does. jwirr Oct 2015 #102

I knew nothing about him until he was sworn in. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #107

Oh wow. That is cool. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #159

I am hoping you are correct on MN - our two senators have jwirr Oct 2015 #100

Obama stumped for Bernie Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #60

I did not know you liked Obama! Hey! I love him too! bravenak Oct 2015 #77

Of course, I campaigned for him in 2008 and 2012 Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #122

How Many POC Politicians Asked For His Aid cantbeserious Oct 2015 #67

Can he not just help them on spec? bravenak Oct 2015 #74

I don't think so, neither black NOR white Democrats. George II Oct 2015 #89

I am not seeing much. bravenak Oct 2015 #128

Not many I'd guess Armstead Oct 2015 #90

Your good answer is wasted whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #112

Yup, a shame your truth will be blown off. nt riderinthestorm Oct 2015 #125

Well, Sanders did get an endorsement...sort of Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #109

Now, see - this is why I hang around this place. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #120

Yes...I read that a couple of months ago Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #137

I find this race between then interesting. I need to explore the issue more and read more on it. bravenak Oct 2015 #130

That's a great link. Number23 Oct 2015 #165

FWIW he did endorse Barack Obama; twice. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #115

Yep. bravenak Oct 2015 #123

the talking point is that he's a dong-swinging chauvinist, not a Portlandia-style race-blind pinko MisterP Oct 2015 #132

I can decide, thanks. It is Third Way Progressive, I think. bravenak Oct 2015 #133

Third Wayers are proudly moderate, "radical centrists." WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #138

Exactly!! They are MODERATE on race. bravenak Oct 2015 #140

Third Wayers, not progressives. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #141

No. I made the definition. I get it. I am concerned about you. bravenak Oct 2015 #143

Nonsensical definitions your thing? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #146

Not nonsensical at all. lovemydog Oct 2015 #170

Initial response, I have no f'ing clue ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #139

Thank you for your advice. And insinuations. bravenak Oct 2015 #142

I understand your concern, but you only need to look at Sander's stance for equality ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #156

Words like race card were historically used by conservatives against blacks and democrats as a bravenak Oct 2015 #166

Does It Have To Be A Black Politician ??? - What If He Ended In Handcuffs Fighting For Civil Rights WillyT Oct 2015 #145

I am discussing him stumping for candidates. I wil accept any poc. From his career as a politician. bravenak Oct 2015 #147

Does Keith Ellison Count ??? - Black And Muslim... WillyT Oct 2015 #148

He is already listed on thread, but I have decided to count those who endore him as well as bravenak Oct 2015 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #173

I made up my mind. bravenak Oct 2015 #181

I know when the third waters decided Kendrick meek was too dark to SwampG8r Oct 2015 #149

They all should have supported him. Period. bravenak Oct 2015 #154

No one would SwampG8r Oct 2015 #155

1 black congressional endorsement isn't that low considering he has 0 white endorsements jfern Oct 2015 #161

I have decided to accept women politicians, lgbtq ones, and poc, and any disabled or veterans bravenak Oct 2015 #164

In the past very few would want what he had to offer SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2015 #167

My, what inconvenient questions you ask! Hekate Oct 2015 #169

so tell us- How many Politicians has Bernie Sanders stumped for, period? azurnoir Oct 2015 #174

You'll have to ask your fellow supporters; I'm going for the flying pig. nt Hekate Oct 2015 #178

I'll tell you - Barack Obama in 2012 azurnoir Oct 2015 #179

Me too. bravenak Oct 2015 #182

specially when the answer is even less convenient or are you glad to find out he stumped for Obama azurnoir Oct 2015 #183

Yep. Glad to see that. bravenak Oct 2015 #184

Good I hoped you were azurnoir Oct 2015 #185

You're making things up. Fearless Oct 2015 #187

I have no need. bravenak Oct 2015 #188

Yet you are. Fearless Oct 2015 #189

How does that make you feel? That perception you have? bravenak Oct 2015 #190

You told me you're not making things up? And that should be reason to believe you? Fearless Oct 2015 #191

You are being rude. bravenak Oct 2015 #193

"I was told the crust is the best part!!" awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #194

Right? They say things that aurprise me. bravenak Oct 2015 #197

didn't he support Barack Obama in the general elections of 2008 & 2012? WI_DEM Oct 2015 #196

Yep. We counted him! bravenak Oct 2015 #198