2016 Postmortem

slipslidingaway

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60. HC was THE issue back in 2007 but the insurance and pharma companies were handed ...

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:14 AM

Oct 2015

a gift by the Dems when they denounced an insurance system for all, and we always blame the other party for all that goes awry

Obama made a deal with Billy Tauzin, after making a campaign commercial entitled "billy" that took him to task for drug prices.

Just listening now to aljazera news and the increase in Ativan, this was a drug my husband had many days during his two allogeneic transplants for acute leukemia, they are speaking of the cost increase even though this drug has been around for decades. I am not happy, it is a powerful drug for a myriad of symptoms and that many transplant patients rely upon. Screw the for profit centers, this drug has been around for decades.

For profit centers do not belong in our our HC system!

You want to buy a boat or a fast car, fine. But you should not make an enormous profit on my life.

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Hillary supporters keep telling me we won't have single payer in America anytime soon [View all] think Oct 2015 OP

Ditto for Sanders. brooklynite Oct 2015 #1

He at least will try RobertEarl Oct 2015 #4

No, he won't even try. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #27

Well then, I guess it doesnlt matter who is preident. meybe we should just turn over the keys... Armstead Oct 2015 #41

It does, they have to be for it treestar Oct 2015 #81

Exactly that. Hillary and her supporters are only about sure things Scootaloo Oct 2015 #9

They are chickens RobertEarl Oct 2015 #12

A Turd Wayer would settle for an initial offer of one slice hifiguy Oct 2015 #46

Just asking does not get you anywhere treestar Oct 2015 #83

What I learned in law school and clerking for two very smart judges hifiguy Oct 2015 #84

So what does "trying" consist of? treestar Oct 2015 #80

We elect leaders that are willing to fight for it. You know like Canada, England, Germany, France think Oct 2015 #5

If Sanders attempted to fight for single payer with a GOP house, he's an even bigger FOOL MohRokTah Oct 2015 #10

You still envision a GOP house. That may be. but if your vision already includes such things then of think Oct 2015 #13

A GOP controlled House is guaranteed, regardless. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #16

That poster doesn't know what they want artislife Oct 2015 #39

I envision a Republican House because every Democratic candidate says there'll be one... brooklynite Oct 2015 #59

He already did RobertEarl Oct 2015 #15

The politically naive astound me. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #17

You astound yourself? RobertEarl Oct 2015 #24

Are you repeating something that was said to you? nt artislife Oct 2015 #40

Parliamentary systems treestar Oct 2015 #66

There will always be plenty of excuses as to why America CAN'T do it. think Oct 2015 #70

You have not, however, addressed the difference between our system treestar Oct 2015 #76

So what if they have a different system. Does that mean we should just settle for think Oct 2015 #77

Who is arguing that? No one. treestar Oct 2015 #78

So you're saying that it's better to not to try changing things.... daleanime Oct 2015 #28

Vermont. Couldn't. Pass. It. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #2

They did pass it. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #6

Once again JV is wrong RobertEarl Oct 2015 #25

Bernie isn't the Governor of Vermont pinebox Oct 2015 #8

Oh they know it. Krytan11c Oct 2015 #19

I don't ignore it at all. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #34

They keep telling us lots of nonsense. It's azmom Oct 2015 #3

Indeed. They keep telling me what CAN'T be done. That's not the kind of leadership I want... think Oct 2015 #11

The same was said about emancipation, women's suffrage, the 40hour work week, and scores of other Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #14

Everything youve described took DECADES ti implement. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #20

No kidding. So, do we vote for someone who will promote it or someone who will settle for less? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #21

Obviously, we settle for moving the ACA towards single payer. Baby steps. That's how this works. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #23

When I was in the military I didn't notice the MPs doing much of anything Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #30

I love that Thomas Paine quote Armstead Oct 2015 #42

You should let Hillary know what she was promoting. enlightenment Oct 2015 #32

After reading that, I'm sure confused Armstead Oct 2015 #43

No, I don't most likely because of such thing was in her proposal. Not in this dimension. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #71

How many people have to die hifiguy Oct 2015 #85

That makes no difference whatsoever. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #86

I hope you can live with yourself. hifiguy Oct 2015 #87

That's just too bad. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #88

Whatever. hifiguy Oct 2015 #89

TRYING is INEXCUSABLE!! MohRokTah Oct 2015 #90

Bye now. hifiguy Oct 2015 #91

Wasted time on issues that cannot be advanced... MohRokTah Oct 2015 #92

Looks like they'll kick back and settle. They'll let Bernie do all the heavy lifting and then think Oct 2015 #29

Yep. The Go Along to Get Along wing of the party usually tells us it can't be done. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #31

Bernie has never sponsored "heavy lifting" policy Sheepshank Oct 2015 #33

A politician can do both but treestar Oct 2015 #68

The British nhs was implemented in two years. Medicare took less than that. Doctor_J Oct 2015 #44

This is not the UK. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #53

It depends on the situation sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #18

I support them BOTH, & I'll tell you-The RW doesn't want Americans to have single payer Sunlei Oct 2015 #22

And neither does Mrs Clinton Doctor_J Oct 2015 #38

Some of them will take credit for it if it ever does come to pass. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #26

yeah like Vermont has. you know Vermont where Bernie's been a politicians for decades lol nt msongs Oct 2015 #35

Laughing at America's inability to ensure healthcare coverage is Hilarious! think Oct 2015 #36

Just FYI, Sen. Sanders is a US legislator, not a Vermont State legislator. Zorra Oct 2015 #47

why doesn't hill2016 Oct 2015 #48

he serves at a FEDERAL LEVEL restorefreedom Oct 2015 #54

does he have any influence over hill2016 Oct 2015 #57

he is free to share his opinion restorefreedom Oct 2015 #62

so why didn't he hill2016 Oct 2015 #64

why couldn't hillary convince the country restorefreedom Oct 2015 #75

I guess like Hillary Clinton is responsible for stop and frisk and we have Rand Paul TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #72

they're the same ones who said heritage care was a "great first step toward single payer" Doctor_J Oct 2015 #37

I don't understand. Obama supporters fought tooth and nail for ACA, but they are okay with liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #45

Of course, single payer is a good end goal. BlueCheese Oct 2015 #49

I didn't hear this argument with the ACA and the Republicans have tried to kill it liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #50

We had a unique opportunity in 2009-2010. BlueCheese Oct 2015 #52

I don't have a crystal ball. I can't tell you what year Medicare for all will be passed. You may be liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #55

You want single payer? MrWendel Oct 2015 #51

Single Payer must be initiated on the House. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #56

Naysaying is so yesterday. We'll never have it if no one fights for it. I'm thankful think Oct 2015 #58

The coattails argument has no basis in current political reality. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #63

HC was THE issue back in 2007 but the insurance and pharma companies were handed ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #60

You think Speaker Ryan would allow it to come to the floor???????????? Historic NY Oct 2015 #61

Not until you can get a Congress that will pass it treestar Oct 2015 #65

if we do away with our democratic system and elect a king/queen La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2015 #67

If you don't fight for it and don't promote it of course it will NEVER happen. think Oct 2015 #69

It's not happening unless we can turn congress around with supermajorities Renew Deal Oct 2015 #73

It will never happen if no one is willing to take the lead and fight for it. Hillary so far shows no think Oct 2015 #74

WE have to elect the Congress. treestar Oct 2015 #79

Telling us what we "can't" do usually comes from Republicans. Vinca Oct 2015 #82

Trouble is, I want single payer NOW. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #93