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In reply to the discussion: Sirota: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department [View all]KoKo
(84,711 posts)135. Yes....very much fits our times.
I often think of Simon and Garfunkle's "Sounds of Silence" for these times...and there are so many more from the late 60's through the 70's in that other time of great stress, war and division in our country.
Sounds Of Silence Lyrics
http://www.metrolyrics.com/sounds-of-silence-lyrics-simon-and-garfunkel.html
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted
In my brain still remains
Within the sound of silence
In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a street lamp
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of
A neon light that split the night
And touched the sound of silence
And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never share and no one dared
Disturb the sound of silence
Fools said I, you do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you
But my words like silent raindrops fell
And echoed in the wells of silence
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon God they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the signs said, 'The words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls and tenement halls'
And whispered in the sound of silence
http://www.metrolyrics.com/sounds-of-silence-lyrics-simon-and-garfunkel.html
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted
In my brain still remains
Within the sound of silence
In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
'Neath the halo of a street lamp
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of
A neon light that split the night
And touched the sound of silence
And in the naked light I saw
Ten thousand people, maybe more
People talking without speaking
People hearing without listening
People writing songs that voices never share and no one dared
Disturb the sound of silence
Fools said I, you do not know
Silence like a cancer grows
Hear my words that I might teach you
Take my arms that I might reach you
But my words like silent raindrops fell
And echoed in the wells of silence
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon God they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the signs said, 'The words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls and tenement halls'
And whispered in the sound of silence
Songwriters
SIMON, PAUL
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Sirota: Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department [View all]
grasswire
Oct 2015
OP
Bernie establishing a world-wide highly respected charity? I probably could!
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#62
If it was a Bush, DU would be UNANIMOUS in opposition to it. Not one post would be in support.
arcane1
Oct 2015
#94
Yes. And of course the same reliable readers fall reliably for the same unreliable propaganda.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#70
From GOP propaganda coffers directly to the OP sections of DU....there is an obvious co-relation.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#59
None of this money was going to benefit the Clintons personally. The foundation is for charity.
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#9
Again, Presidents have always promoted the US air industry, which is a major producer
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#15
Yes. Promoting US interests is part of what the State Department does, and Boeing provides
pnwmom
Oct 2015
#18
Helping to escalate the global arms race is good, because it save jobs here??? Wow are we lost.
reformist2
Oct 2015
#21
Selling billions worth of weapons to a country that beheads more people than ISIS.
arcane1
Oct 2015
#95
it's not like the wife of one of her biggest donors in 2008 and now is on the BoD of Clinton Fd.
azurnoir
Oct 2015
#24
Well, they don't state that it's bribery, per se. Although appearances aren't too good.
senz
Oct 2015
#13
Clinton supporters will say it was just business as usual, nothing to see here.
Bernblu
Oct 2015
#19
I often forget that the Secretary of State approves all these arms deals. She's deep in all that.
reformist2
Oct 2015
#20
Are you claiming the article contains factual inaccuracies or just that you disagree that facts
think
Oct 2015
#36
If you believe Hillary Clinton has violated the law I will extend to you the courtesy ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#38
Activities can occur without violating the letter of the law that still are questionable at best.
think
Oct 2015
#41
If you believe there was a quid pro quo then you have established one of the elements neccessary
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#42
I wrote right in the title that letter of the law wasn't violated but keep ignoring the damn subject
think
Oct 2015
#49
Did SoS Clinton increase sales of military weaponry after donations were made or not?
think
Oct 2015
#54
If you believe you have satisfied the elements of bribery I gave you the Statute and A G info.
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#57
Thanks for not answering the simple question and then making a baseless claim once again....
think
Oct 2015
#63
If she didn't violate any laws what is the point of our tete a tete?
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#68
It's a question of character which is the subject here. Do you approve of the selling of weapons
think
Oct 2015
#77
If it's question of character as a small (d) Democrat I will let my fellow Democrats hash it out...
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#79
So you prefer not to give your opinion correct? That is understandable given the circumstances....
think
Oct 2015
#80
My opinion is she did nothing wrong. You hold a different opinion. That's how we roll in America.
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#81
You are welcome, sir or madame, and I would be remiss if I didn't wish you a happy week./nt
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#83
I hope you have a great week also. For what it's worth Hillary did extremely well in the hearing.
think
Oct 2015
#85
That was not an answer to the question I posed. I didn't ask you why you supported Clinton.
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#71
I am convinced far too many Bernie fans know too little about statistics and co-relations
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#55
There is no subject to discuss...that was my point, as others have tried to tell you!
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#61
I read Clinton Cash excerpts.. the GOP propaganda rag that alleges the same nothing...did you?
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#67
I read THIS article. This is what is being discussed. I have no clue what you are referencing
think
Oct 2015
#69
This article is not your right wing source so either discuss facts in THIS article or keep spinning
think
Oct 2015
#78
Consider it counter-spin....just keeping things in balance for the thinking folks at DU.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#100
Correlation <> causation, but in this case, it does equal a GLARINGLY HUGE conflict of interest! nt
mhatrw
Oct 2015
#148
Ugh. A punch to the gut. Bernie should head-on spotlight conflict of interest "realities" as a core
JudyM
Oct 2015
#66
There are other conflicts of interest like Walton family members and Walmart foundation donations.nt
Snotcicles
Oct 2015
#91
Terry McAuliffe..Al Gore & "Stolen Election 2000"....and Who Profited? It Goes On...
KoKo
Oct 2015
#141
Okay, so we're basically accusing Clinton taking bribes now. On a Democratic forum?
BlueCheese
Oct 2015
#118