Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Here's the transcript, decide for yourself: [View all]
COOPER: Secretary Clinton, is Bernie Sanders tough enough on guns?
CLINTON: No, not at all. I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country...
(APPLAUSE)
... supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do.
Senator Sanders did vote five times against the Brady bill. Since it was passed, more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. He also did vote, as he said, for this immunity provision. I voted against it. I was in the Senate at the same time. It wasn't that complicated to me. It was pretty straightforward to me that he was going to give immunity to the only industry in America. Everybody else has to be accountable, but not the gun manufacturers. And we need to stand up and say: Enough of that. We're not going to let it continue.
(APPLAUSE)
COOPER: We're going to bring you all in on this. But, Senator Sanders, you have to give a response.
SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.
I believe that there is a consensus in this country. A consensus has said we need to strengthen and expand instant background checks, do away with
this gun show loophole, that we have to address the issue of mental health, that we have to deal with the strawman purchasing issue, and that when we develop that consensus, we can finally, finally do something to address this issue.
CLINTON: No, not at all. I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country...
(APPLAUSE)
... supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do.
Senator Sanders did vote five times against the Brady bill. Since it was passed, more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. He also did vote, as he said, for this immunity provision. I voted against it. I was in the Senate at the same time. It wasn't that complicated to me. It was pretty straightforward to me that he was going to give immunity to the only industry in America. Everybody else has to be accountable, but not the gun manufacturers. And we need to stand up and say: Enough of that. We're not going to let it continue.
(APPLAUSE)
COOPER: We're going to bring you all in on this. But, Senator Sanders, you have to give a response.
SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.
I believe that there is a consensus in this country. A consensus has said we need to strengthen and expand instant background checks, do away with
this gun show loophole, that we have to address the issue of mental health, that we have to deal with the strawman purchasing issue, and that when we develop that consensus, we can finally, finally do something to address this issue.
http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2015/10/13/cnn-democratic-debate-full-transcript/
He was speaking directly to her and of her. Maybe he ought to be a bit more careful about accusing another candidate of yelling, when it is he who in fact yelled throughout most of the debate!
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
198 replies, 10610 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (37)
ReplyReply to this post
198 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
![](du4img/smicon-reply-new.gif)
Crystal clear. And yes, he yelled throughout the debate. But he is a man, it's OK
lunamagica
Oct 2015
#1
You would think the teacher just came in the room and told everyone to be quiet...
boston bean
Oct 2015
#2
Not even the sound of crickets. Which surprises me. I'm always amazed by their ability
lunamagica
Oct 2015
#3
maybe I should get ready for the onslaught. They might be in re-grouping mode!
boston bean
Oct 2015
#4
ten to one it will be an edited video snip of his debate response, cutting him out saying her name.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#7
Sanders had been saying the exact same thing about the gun issue for months before the debate.
appal_jack
Oct 2015
#54
I believe that she was genuine when she said with a big smile: "Thank you Bernie!" when he
BeanMusical
Oct 2015
#168
For real, now it will be he was talking about O'Malley, when he is directly responding to Clinton.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#11
Didn't you read your own transcript? Bernie was addressing O'Malley in the exchange which I posted.
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#16
It has nothing to do with the point of the post, nor Hillary's comments nor Bernies.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#19
It has everything to do with it. It shows he wasn't speaking to gender when he said that.
cui bono
Oct 2015
#26
He says that people on both sides of the gun issue shout instead of working to find common ground
thesquanderer
Oct 2015
#121
People and politicians in general. Where did he specifically say Hillary was shouting?
cui bono
Oct 2015
#152
It's pretty clear if you approach it to try to understand rather than to try play victim
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#170
If your point was to cast Bernie's responses as sexist then you failed, in both exchanges between
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#27
Yes because men don't shout and women don't RAISE THEIR VOICE, is that what you're implying? n/t
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#87
A heavily edited PORTION of the transcript taken out of context from the entire debate while
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#104
I did use your own link against your attempted smear but it didn't "bolster your point." n/t
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#108
Here's Bernie's interview from July and he used the terms yelling and screaming to describe
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#124
I'll charitably assume that this is total reading comprehension fail on your part.
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#171
In July Sanders used "yelling and screaming" in this interview and just as in his rebuttals against
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#164
She did? Are you one of those persons who think a woman voicing an opinion is yelling?
boston bean
Oct 2015
#17
You think so, huh? I just watched it again and I didn't hear her "shouting".
boston bean
Oct 2015
#48
You would have to ask Bernie why he felt it important to address Clinton in that manner
boston bean
Oct 2015
#62
So why is it okay for you to post that pic? What if someone did that about Hillary?
cui bono
Oct 2015
#30
AverageJoe90 is that you? Because, to be honest, you sound a lot like that loon.
Squinch
Oct 2015
#111
I demand you apologize for saying that. And then I demand that you buy me a car.
Squinch
Oct 2015
#188
I have been good. Got a cold though and skipped class. Too burned out to go with this cough.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#190
I think Uncle Joe's post above absolutely does show he was referring to her directly,
boston bean
Oct 2015
#31
Well, you would have to admit he was quite deferential to the man on the stage
boston bean
Oct 2015
#52
Yes, he was quite deferential to Martin, giving permission to the other man to raise his voice.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#50
That is true, but trials are held in person for a reason and not by transcript. The video is better.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#70
Kind of amazing that the other response to this post was hidden by a narrow 4-3 vote
Persondem
Oct 2015
#125
Then why did he tell O'Malley it was ok to raise voices over the same issue and points, actually?
boston bean
Oct 2015
#91
When is the Senator from a "rural state" (and a tiny one at that) going to STOP legislating....
George II
Oct 2015
#122
Do you not get the irony of your own "tagline" in this post? Seriously do you just not get it?
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#163
You are a great feminist. Taking concerns of feminists and calling it drama.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#182
I think it's ridiculous to try to paint Sanders as "not liking it when a strong woman speaks" due to
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2015
#184