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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Here's the transcript, decide for yourself: [View all]boston bean
(36,409 posts)31. I think Uncle Joe's post above absolutely does show he was referring to her directly,
by way of giving Martin O'Malley permission to raise his voice,
Now, to try to transform their grief, they went to court, where sometimes progress does happen when you file in court, but in this case, you want to talk about a - a rigged game, Senator? The game was rigged. A man had sold 4,000 rounds of military ammunition to this - this person that killed their daughter, riddled her body with five bullets, and he didn't even ask where it was going.
And not only did their case get thrown out of court, they were slapped with $200,000 in court fees because of the way that the NRA gets its way in our Congress and we take a backseat. It's time to stand up and pass comprehensive gun safety legislation as a nation.
(APPLAUSE)
COOPER: Senator Sanders, I want you to be able to respond, 30 seconds.
SANDERS: I think the governor gave a very good example about the weaknesses in that law and I think we have to take another look at it. But here is the point, Governor. We can raise our voices, but I come from a rural state, and the views on gun control in rural states are different than in urban states, whether we like it or not.
Our job is to bring people together around strong, commonsense gun legislation. I think there is a vast majority in this country who want to do the right thing, and I intend to lead the country in bringing our people together.
And not only did their case get thrown out of court, they were slapped with $200,000 in court fees because of the way that the NRA gets its way in our Congress and we take a backseat. It's time to stand up and pass comprehensive gun safety legislation as a nation.
(APPLAUSE)
COOPER: Senator Sanders, I want you to be able to respond, 30 seconds.
SANDERS: I think the governor gave a very good example about the weaknesses in that law and I think we have to take another look at it. But here is the point, Governor. We can raise our voices, but I come from a rural state, and the views on gun control in rural states are different than in urban states, whether we like it or not.
Our job is to bring people together around strong, commonsense gun legislation. I think there is a vast majority in this country who want to do the right thing, and I intend to lead the country in bringing our people together.
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Crystal clear. And yes, he yelled throughout the debate. But he is a man, it's OK
lunamagica
Oct 2015
#1
You would think the teacher just came in the room and told everyone to be quiet...
boston bean
Oct 2015
#2
Not even the sound of crickets. Which surprises me. I'm always amazed by their ability
lunamagica
Oct 2015
#3
maybe I should get ready for the onslaught. They might be in re-grouping mode!
boston bean
Oct 2015
#4
ten to one it will be an edited video snip of his debate response, cutting him out saying her name.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#7
Sanders had been saying the exact same thing about the gun issue for months before the debate.
appal_jack
Oct 2015
#54
I believe that she was genuine when she said with a big smile: "Thank you Bernie!" when he
BeanMusical
Oct 2015
#168
For real, now it will be he was talking about O'Malley, when he is directly responding to Clinton.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#11
Didn't you read your own transcript? Bernie was addressing O'Malley in the exchange which I posted.
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#16
It has nothing to do with the point of the post, nor Hillary's comments nor Bernies.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#19
It has everything to do with it. It shows he wasn't speaking to gender when he said that.
cui bono
Oct 2015
#26
He says that people on both sides of the gun issue shout instead of working to find common ground
thesquanderer
Oct 2015
#121
People and politicians in general. Where did he specifically say Hillary was shouting?
cui bono
Oct 2015
#152
It's pretty clear if you approach it to try to understand rather than to try play victim
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#170
If your point was to cast Bernie's responses as sexist then you failed, in both exchanges between
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#27
Yes because men don't shout and women don't RAISE THEIR VOICE, is that what you're implying? n/t
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#87
A heavily edited PORTION of the transcript taken out of context from the entire debate while
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#104
I did use your own link against your attempted smear but it didn't "bolster your point." n/t
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#108
Here's Bernie's interview from July and he used the terms yelling and screaming to describe
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#124
I'll charitably assume that this is total reading comprehension fail on your part.
Jim Lane
Oct 2015
#171
In July Sanders used "yelling and screaming" in this interview and just as in his rebuttals against
Uncle Joe
Oct 2015
#164
She did? Are you one of those persons who think a woman voicing an opinion is yelling?
boston bean
Oct 2015
#17
You think so, huh? I just watched it again and I didn't hear her "shouting".
boston bean
Oct 2015
#48
You would have to ask Bernie why he felt it important to address Clinton in that manner
boston bean
Oct 2015
#62
So why is it okay for you to post that pic? What if someone did that about Hillary?
cui bono
Oct 2015
#30
AverageJoe90 is that you? Because, to be honest, you sound a lot like that loon.
Squinch
Oct 2015
#111
I demand you apologize for saying that. And then I demand that you buy me a car.
Squinch
Oct 2015
#188
I have been good. Got a cold though and skipped class. Too burned out to go with this cough.
bravenak
Oct 2015
#190
I think Uncle Joe's post above absolutely does show he was referring to her directly,
boston bean
Oct 2015
#31
Well, you would have to admit he was quite deferential to the man on the stage
boston bean
Oct 2015
#52
Yes, he was quite deferential to Martin, giving permission to the other man to raise his voice.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#50
That is true, but trials are held in person for a reason and not by transcript. The video is better.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#70
Kind of amazing that the other response to this post was hidden by a narrow 4-3 vote
Persondem
Oct 2015
#125
Then why did he tell O'Malley it was ok to raise voices over the same issue and points, actually?
boston bean
Oct 2015
#91
When is the Senator from a "rural state" (and a tiny one at that) going to STOP legislating....
George II
Oct 2015
#122
Do you not get the irony of your own "tagline" in this post? Seriously do you just not get it?
Bread and Circus
Oct 2015
#163
You are a great feminist. Taking concerns of feminists and calling it drama.
boston bean
Oct 2015
#182
I think it's ridiculous to try to paint Sanders as "not liking it when a strong woman speaks" due to
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2015
#184