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2016 Postmortem
Showing Original Post only (View all)Unskewing Monmouth's Iowa Poll [View all]
So Monmouth has released a new Iowa poll:
Hillary Clinton has support of 65% of likely Iowa Democratic caucus-goers, while Bernie Sanders has
24% and Martin OMalley has 5%, according to first Monmouth University poll since Clintons House Benghazi panel appearance and Vice President Joe Bidens decision not to run.
If you believe this poll I have a bridge to sell you. There's no effing way this is correct.
This is a 10-12 point race in Iowa.
Did I break down the numbers for you? No. Because it is a fucking ridiculous result.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/27/1440708/-Unskewing-Monmouth-s-Iowa-Poll#
The comments say it all. Bad methodology.
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Clinton's 41 pt edge in Monmouth IA is bc the frame is wayyy too narrow: *reg* D who vtd in last 2 primary. That's not a caucus electorate
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What a joke(1+ / 0-)
So you had to caucus during Dean/Kerry as well to be included in this poll? Who the hell approved this methodology?
by fatwa on Tue Oct 27, 2015 at 08:18:33 AM PDT
Gotta agree with you. (2+ / 0-)
There's no way the numbers could shift that drastically. What's the MOE? I just woke up so haven't looked at the crosstabs but anyone looking at those numbers should be skeptical.
P.S. I am not a crackpot.
New voters excluded(2+ / 0-)
Only 7% are between 18 and 34. 39% 65 and over. Ignore.
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by Paleo on Tue Oct 27, 2015 at 08:18:20 AM PDT
even the best pollsters are wrong(0+ / 0-)
5% of the time.
This is their first Iowa poll for Dems, so we've got nothing to compare it to.
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by TobyRocksSoHard on Tue Oct 27, 2015 at 08:23:02 AM PDT
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I predicted LONG AGO that the "unskewing of polls" by Sanders supporters would begin at some point
MohRokTah
Oct 2015
#1
We don't have to. Hillary's own campaign is now saying the poll is rdiculous and actually
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#141
Trump is also now complaing about the scientific polls now that he is a loser!
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#24
The methodology is sound based on past voting patterns....are those going to change?
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#28
And this is what's going to make watching y'all get blindsided all the sweeter..
frylock
Oct 2015
#77
Has it occured to you that "the population that is OVERWHELMINGLY supporting Bernie" isn't in Iowa?
brooklynite
Oct 2015
#41
Yeah the portion of the population that never shows up at the voting booth!
workinclasszero
Oct 2015
#62
Yeah, me too. A lot of the people being outright dismissed as unreliable also voted for Obama..
frylock
Oct 2015
#91
I'm not worried about people that will sit home against their best interests
workinclasszero
Oct 2015
#104
Explanation: Alerter really had to struggle to come up with a reason for alerting and has failed
Cha
Oct 2015
#138
You can't make a freakin' move without those itchy alert fingers tracking you down. Lots of fun
Cha
Oct 2015
#137
Believe it or not, there really are people who pay for hundreds of thousands of Facebook likes
Zorra
Oct 2015
#69
exactly!! prior caucus participation may miss larger trends of newly motivated voters
zazen
Oct 2015
#72
Not as prideless as the time DU went all 19th century on the Ebola propaganda, but close.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2015
#57
Look at the demographics of the electorate, especially in Iowa. They're right on!
George II
Oct 2015
#66
You should start a facebook page where you and those similarly concerned can lodge your complaints
DemocratSinceBirth
Oct 2015
#124
And like the Monmouth poll, it excluded younger and new voters who are not yet registered
magical thyme
Oct 2015
#128
Neither "excluded" younger and new voters - both used a sampling that reflects the demographics...
George II
Oct 2015
#129
Excellent analysis, thank you. Apparently even her own campaign doesn't believe that poll.
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#134