2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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60. The recognition of "sexism" can be mistaken

Tue Oct 27, 2015, 09:46 PM

Oct 2015

I am not referring to obviously sexist statements or terms that we all know. Those should not be used, just as men deserve some common courtesy and respect too.

If Sanders has enough respect for Clinton as an opponent to speak freely, that IMO is a sign of respect. And he did not say anything that would have even gotten a second thought if he had been addressing a male .

But if common everyday English like "We can shout about this issue...." becomes a loaded phrase, what's next?...... "I'm sorry but you're wrong about that." Are there hidden gender stereotypes in that? ....How about "As a nation we have become too emotional about this issue".....Well gee, maybe that ls not acceptable because of the stereotype that women are emotional....."Please. Be logical." Nope. Women are assumed to be not as logical as men, so we can't imply that someone is not being logical.

And on and on it goes until there's.....Total Silence.

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A question about intellectual honesty. RE: Clinton's charge of sexism [View all] Armstead Oct 2015 OP

D Hilary say that? 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #1

There are things Hillary says, and the things they think Hillary said. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #4

You're smarter than that Armstead Oct 2015 #5

I know that she didn't say 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #6

You disagree with jut about every reporter and commentator who has discussed it? Armstead Oct 2015 #34

I don't think you even know exactly what she said. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #7

You disagree with almost every reporter and commentator who has been talking about it? Armstead Oct 2015 #24

No, they're really not. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2015 #20

do you need a definition of the word 'hypothetical'? DianeK Oct 2015 #11

Do you need to be told that men shouldn't tell women to stop shouting? leftofcool Oct 2015 #13

and exactly what man told what woman.. DianeK Oct 2015 #16

Exactly! leftofcool Oct 2015 #29

you 'might' be able to get away with that except that ... DianeK Oct 2015 #33

I see women being told to stop shouting as a credible issue. leftofcool Oct 2015 #38

what he said was... DianeK Oct 2015 #45

As far as I am concerned, it has already been said and there is no walking it back leftofcool Oct 2015 #46

ok...well thank you.. DianeK Oct 2015 #48

What the hell word was he supposed to use to make the point? Armstead Oct 2015 #36

Thank heaven no one told Hillary to stop shouting, then. merrily Oct 2015 #19

So we're all going to spemd eight years walking on eggs? Armstead Oct 2015 #27

& men shouldn't batter: does that make Sanders a batterer because he's a man? zazen Oct 2015 #57

Except Hillary never made that claim did she? leftofcool Oct 2015 #2

You're smarter than that too. Armstead Oct 2015 #8

What part of "we don't have to stop shouting" don't you get? leftofcool Oct 2015 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Oct 2015 #26

Okay let's just ever use any remotely critical terms against any women ever Armstead Oct 2015 #31

Critical terms are fine. Being to told stop shouting is not fine. leftofcool Oct 2015 #39

Every damn day another word or phrase is deemed unacceptable Armstead Oct 2015 #53

Like I said, criticize her all you want, but don't ever say, stop shouting. leftofcool Oct 2015 #63

He didn't say "Stop Shouting" Armstead Oct 2015 #64

Mansplaining that term Kalidurga Oct 2015 #51

I think you need to re-read this entire news story. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #3

I did and I saw the debate and I saw her say that line on two seoerate occasions Armstead Oct 2015 #9

Please post her comment. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #10

Nope. You know exacty what she said, and why. I know it. All of the pundits know it. Armstead Oct 2015 #17

If Joe resorted to unconscioius sexism, I would call him on it, but he didn't. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #14

I wasn't talking about how Joe Biden behaved. THis is a hypothetical question. Armstead Oct 2015 #21

What you appeared to be doing with you hypotheitcal question, at least by my reading, Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #35

Thank you. I felt the same way. leftofcool Oct 2015 #42

I'm sorry but your wife is being overly sensitive Armstead Oct 2015 #47

My wife is not overly sensitive. She knows a sexist remark when she hears one. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #50

I watched the debate with a very PC female (But not committed to any candidate). Armstead Oct 2015 #54

So women who recognize it as sexist are either over senisitive or ridiculous. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #56

The recognition of "sexism" can be mistaken Armstead Oct 2015 #60

It's a campaign Armstead portlander23 Oct 2015 #15

You're right. And it is why so many people are turned off to politics. Armstead Oct 2015 #22

This is why people like Bernie portlander23 Oct 2015 #28

More war on Christmas. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #18

Yes and Clinton declared it Armstead Oct 2015 #23

By not calling Sanders a sexist? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #25

Sure portlander23 Oct 2015 #30

Do you think a Hallmark card makes these lies more real? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #41

Just more funny ;) portlander23 Oct 2015 #43

I'm sorry. You are correct, Her choice of language and timing was an incredible coincidence. Armstead Oct 2015 #32

Your charge is Bull Shit. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #40

Apparently ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #37

"Hillary looked at Bernie funny!!!!!" JoePhilly Oct 2015 #44

Yes it is. Armstead Oct 2015 #49

Joe has more class so it's kind of a moot point. ucrdem Oct 2015 #52

Good luck trying to reason with that crowd. Broward Oct 2015 #55

opinion is not fact and infering is not implying. nt msongs Oct 2015 #58

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #59

If Bernie cannot stand the heat, he needs to drop out treestar Oct 2015 #61

Um, who started it by whining about insenstitive sexist behavior? Armstead Oct 2015 #62