2016 Postmortem

zeemike

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51. Well there is another possibility.

Wed Oct 28, 2015, 12:01 AM

Oct 2015

That her support is not as big as the media tells us it is. And she is more scared of Sanders than we think she is or should be.

I take those polls with a some salt, because they are part of the system and I think the system is corrupt to it's core...and it is not like polls are hard to make come out like you want them too. In fact lying with math is the easy way to lie.

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Let's be honest about three things: [View all] Vattel Oct 2015 OP

Of course she smeared him Robbins Oct 2015 #1

You got it. merrily Oct 2015 #29

Yep, her handlers must have told her... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #59

Her "handlers?" Guess a woman can't make up her own mind. Nitram Oct 2015 #147

Oh, spare me the mysogonist crap... tex-wyo-dem Oct 2015 #155

Ok, so you're just being patronizing and condescending. Nitram Oct 2015 #156

And Sanders knew he was referring to Hillary when mentioned "shouting." They both are smart. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #80

Run with that - we'll see how it works out demwing Oct 2015 #90

He wasn't referring to Hillary when he said "shouting." JDPriestly Oct 2015 #105

Priestly, two problems with that contention. Nitram Oct 2015 #148

You stick with that.... daleanime Oct 2015 #107

I get the same impression. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #88

thanks for a good chuckle nt msongs Oct 2015 #2

She said "some people", not "some person" or "Bernie Sanders". JaneyVee Oct 2015 #3

come on! DianeK Oct 2015 #9

Don't be dishonest Vattel Oct 2015 #14

Oh please! Fearless Oct 2015 #21

Good thing this is on-line, you can simply deny this.... daleanime Oct 2015 #48

Seems no worse than claiming BS was not meaning treestar Oct 2015 #77

If you look at it side-ways..... daleanime Oct 2015 #85

Uh-huh kenfrequed Oct 2015 #115

Going negative? If that's going negative, then this must be your first election. Nitram Oct 2015 #149

Don't insult my intelligence. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #157

I'm afraid you've just insulted your own intelligence, Ken. Nitram Oct 2015 #163

Uhm... the sentence does allow for plural subject agreement. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #167

'cmon - u know better 840high Oct 2015 #53

.... and where else do we hear that phrase? Myrina Oct 2015 #73

This is the reason people disregard your posts Android3.14 Oct 2015 #81

Juror #? says: "Stupid, but not really hideable" KamaAina Oct 2015 #101

My goodness Android3.14 Oct 2015 #112

A lot of it does seem to be directed at Bernie supporters KamaAina Oct 2015 #113

You rock, KamaAina Android3.14 Oct 2015 #114

What a stupid alert. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #125

Alerting is a tool used by those that can not carry the discussion so they try to end rhett o rick Oct 2015 #128

+1 BeanMusical Oct 2015 #130

As usual. You know they talk about their alert stalking on another site. cui bono Oct 2015 #127

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #135

Okay. I tell my husband he is sexist when he tell me to calm down when I am already calm. bravenak Oct 2015 #4

Don't you hate it when you are out trick or treating Vattel Oct 2015 #13

No! Yum! bravenak Oct 2015 #17

Wow, candy corn has such a long record of halloween sweetness. Vattel Oct 2015 #23

I see what you did there... Ned_Devine Oct 2015 #39

Cesar Chavez. He is a hero of mine. Vattel Oct 2015 #62

Bernie wasn't talking about women shouting. As the OP says, he has used that same language merrily Oct 2015 #32

"No amount of shouting" is a very old and well used expression and has never been construed rhett o rick Oct 2015 #131

I gotta rec this, more people need to see it! MohRokTah Oct 2015 #5

So Do I... WillyT Oct 2015 #7

Serious question... Docreed2003 Oct 2015 #55

This poster said in a thread a few days ago Puglover Oct 2015 #69

The word PUMA comes to mind for some reason. But many of her present and most vocal supporters A Simple Game Oct 2015 #122

No, he doesn't. Not using it would require actually responding to people jeff47 Oct 2015 #92

Yep... WillyT Oct 2015 #6

Hillary gets smeared with lies on this board daily upaloopa Oct 2015 #8

tu quoque Vattel Oct 2015 #15

99% of it is not lies. 840high Oct 2015 #54

Yes, vicious smears like accurately quoting her or her record. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #93

+1 Bubzer Oct 2015 #117

Which smears? Which lies? cui bono Oct 2015 #129

No need for lying. Her political world view is so toxic that it would be hard to make shit up whereisjustice Oct 2015 #138

Poor, poor Bernie 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #10

yeah right, he's bawling his eyes out. Armstead Oct 2015 #12

The worst thing anyone has said about Bernie in this campaign 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #60

Let me know when the appropriate meme has been decided on. Is Clinton... Armstead Oct 2015 #65

+1 Bubzer Oct 2015 #118

Is Bernie too fragile to take criticism of his use of the word shouting to describe Nitram Oct 2015 #150

ikr? it's just a little smear. Vattel Oct 2015 #16

She can't even take credit for it... MrMickeysMom Oct 2015 #11

I don't care either Dem2 Oct 2015 #18

We don't need a leader who feels like victim! If she is so easily shouted down, and believes it's sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #19

yes on all counts. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #22

Yes Thespian2 Oct 2015 #37

Or Barbara Lee, or any number of strong women who were RIGHT on the issues and have never claimed to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #43

Ab-so-lutely... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #50

Barbara Lee was also the ONLY ONE to vote against the occupation of Afghanistan bvar22 Oct 2015 #106

Hillary certainly enjoys her privilage. Bubzer Oct 2015 #121

I would further suggest... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #79

It's ironic, because at this point she doesn't really need to smear Sanders. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #20

so if she "doesn't need" to smear him, restorefreedom Oct 2015 #25

Maybe. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #26

ok, waaaaay ahead was my term restorefreedom Oct 2015 #31

Well there is another possibility. zeemike Oct 2015 #51

i think your possibility is very likely to be the case. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #64

Agree, and I'm voting for Sanders in the primary, too. deurbano Oct 2015 #91

I really don't think she is a particularly good campaigner. No Obama, that's for sure. Vattel Oct 2015 #33

yeah. usually practice makes perfect. usually....... nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #35

Unfortunately, it will be hard for her to lose this primary. But I am still hoping. Vattel Oct 2015 #36

i am actually quite hopeful restorefreedom Oct 2015 #38

My guess? She wants to reserve as much money as possible for the general election, winter is coming Oct 2015 #40

i guess she will need a long term account then.... restorefreedom Oct 2015 #42

She had an 80% burn rate in Q3. jeff47 Oct 2015 #94

Ding, ding, ding, winner! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #120

I don't think she's had a good couple of weeks, except with the most partisan supporters. Go to the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #41

I'm voting for Sanders in my state's primary, even though it is likely to be so late as to not Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #45

WHAT? She KILLED during the debate and she destroyed a panel of teabaggers at the hearing... George II Oct 2015 #141

In your opinion. Like I said, any bump she got was not for her, it was Dems V Repubs and she sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #143

I've mentioned already on DU that I'm disappointed in her position on the death penalty but.... George II Oct 2015 #144

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #24

K&R RandySF Oct 2015 #27

Wow. Phlem Oct 2015 #52

Hey Randy~ sheshe2 Oct 2015 #137

A fresh smear every day. The Clinton campaign way. leveymg Oct 2015 #28

It's going to get much worse... just look at her 2008 smears against Obama. fbc Oct 2015 #30

Speaking as a woman, zentrum Oct 2015 #34

I sometimes feel her jabs will inadvertently help the opposition d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #44

I think zentrum Oct 2015 #58

Obama went through the same things Sanders is going through right now d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #82

Wow, a jab! Nitram Oct 2015 #151

What a jab is right! d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #158

So nice to know that Bernie works well with Republicans. Nitram Oct 2015 #166

Definately! d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #168

That's how Clinton rolls. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #46

Just like the last time.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #57

Hillary: "Anyone Who Does Not Vote for Me is a Sexist" EEO Oct 2015 #47

The funny part is that Bernistas have been playing this card for some time now. Nitram Oct 2015 #109

I haven't seen any Bernie supporters calling Hillary anti-Semitic. beerandjesus Oct 2015 #123

Playing what card? cui bono Oct 2015 #136

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oh poor Bernie, being subject to the woes of running for POTUS treestar Oct 2015 #61

I'm surprised that you would adopt this tactic in responding to pointing out a smear. Vattel Oct 2015 #63

Right. It's Sanders' supporters who can't handle the smear. randome Oct 2015 #71

Its politics in te worst sense Armstead Oct 2015 #72

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #74

the campaign/supporters then treestar Oct 2015 #75

The whining on this topic has become rather hilarious. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #67

She knows it will fire UglyGreed Oct 2015 #66

Seems to be backfiring. dorkzilla Oct 2015 #96

My wife who is the head of the household UglyGreed Oct 2015 #97

According to some on this board a while back dorkzilla Oct 2015 #98

There you go again, Ugly. Nitram Oct 2015 #110

Here's a thread with some people who are truly obsessed with the "sexist angle": BeanMusical Oct 2015 #124

I'm sorry. I should have used his last name and called him Mr. Greed? Nitram Oct 2015 #142

You are so funny, Martin. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #145

Thanks. I try. Nitram Oct 2015 #146

Don't give up. With a lot of practice, one day you'll be funny for real. BeanMusical Oct 2015 #153

Gee thanks for the encouragement! Nitram Oct 2015 #154

You're welcome! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #169

Mom, Hillary is making faces at me again!!!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #68

LOL! randome Oct 2015 #70

lol! treestar Oct 2015 #76

LMAO! leftofcool Oct 2015 #87

LMAO! Nitram Oct 2015 #170

Her postions on war, fracking, the TPP, cluster bombs and her Wall Street buddies will hurt djean111 Oct 2015 #78

^^^THIS^^^ jwirr Oct 2015 #103

+100 cprise Oct 2015 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #83

Is she going to snivel if Putin remarks about her "shouting"? tularetom Oct 2015 #84

Snivel? LOL Nitram Oct 2015 #171

It was all about people shouting on different sides of the GUN issue. SoapBox Oct 2015 #86

Quite so: the whole bag of dirty tricks is being unloaded. n/t Betty Karlson Oct 2015 #89

What else is she gonna do, run on the issues? Jester Messiah Oct 2015 #95

Precisely. n/t bvf Oct 2015 #99

Not! Gamecock Lefty Oct 2015 #100

But you don't understand, Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #102

4.... lame54 Oct 2015 #104

Wow, if that is the worst "smear" Sanders gets all campaign, Nitram Oct 2015 #108

Not really a smear DaveT Oct 2015 #111

I don't have to look, Clinton is ahead of Sanders in the Polls. stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #116

For Clinton, this was nothing but a clever jab that has all the hallmarks mhatrw Oct 2015 #119

I Agree, And SHE VERY WELL KNOWS What She's Doing! ChiciB1 Oct 2015 #126

Oh my gosh! Nitram Oct 2015 #152

Don't be so thin skinned Gman Oct 2015 #132

I find a man's screaming to be easier to listen to fadedrose Oct 2015 #133

Link? Video? Text? bhikkhu Oct 2015 #139

1. False, 2. False, 3. False. George II Oct 2015 #140

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #159

How is pointing out GOP misogyny a dirty tactic? Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #160

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #161

I will respond whenever I please. Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #162

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #164

Nothing about misogyny there. Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #165