2016 Postmortem

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33. Mrs. Clinton continues to be a living political "wind sock". She always checks the

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:40 AM

Oct 2015

political wind before saying anything publically.

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Hillary Clinton Comes Out Against Abolishing The Death Penalty [View all] Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 OP

That's too bad but probably politically expedient randys1 Oct 2015 #1

Yes, like everything else when it comes to Hillary trying to avoid taking a principled position. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #6

It's not a "principled position" because you disagree with it? Whose principles should she hold? kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #10

They were responding to a post which suggested the morningfog Oct 2015 #18

Political expediency V fighting for what's right. That is exactly why I cannot support her. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #51

That's unfortunate, but fairly insignficant given the relative absence of federal executions jberryhill Oct 2015 #2

Having a president opposed to the death penalty carries some political weight. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #3

It's pretty much a non-issue at that level jberryhill Oct 2015 #17

Question: The death penalty is not legal in my state, but PotatoChip Oct 2015 #20

Yes of course jberryhill Oct 2015 #21

Ok, thanks for the answer. (nt) PotatoChip Oct 2015 #24

Riddle Me This - How Soon Before She Changes Her Mind - Another Ruse To Claim She Is Progressive cantbeserious Oct 2015 #4

Answer: as soon as Hillary's next poll results come in and, based on those results, her advisors tell her what position to take. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #11

Chuckles - Thank You For The Laugh cantbeserious Oct 2015 #12

Disappointing. Chemisse Oct 2015 #5

Yet some still claim she's a progressive. Scuba Oct 2015 #7

Yet some don't understand that the country is not as progressive as they'd like. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #26

Typical of Hillary's Camp Weathervane to put public opinion ahead of what is right. Scuba Oct 2015 #28

I strongly encourage ALL Sanders supporters to have him announce he's against the DP. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #32

Standing up for what's right? Glad to oblige ... Scuba Oct 2015 #34

Maybe that's why he's hit the ceiling in the polls at 25%? BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #38

Who owns the media that run the polls? Scuba Oct 2015 #39

To be fair, they rarely include Blacks, Latinos, and Asian voters, either. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #40

Many (most?) polls are designed to influence opinion, not measure it. Scuba Oct 2015 #45

Maybe. But they're also useful to measure where people are at the moment. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #48

How does a poll justify a position? BOSNYCDC Oct 2015 #60

The Private Prison Industry probably charges extra for executions - a whole lot EXTRA. Maedhros Oct 2015 #8

How many federal privately-run prisons are there? jberryhill Oct 2015 #22

you caan count on queen hilllary to be on the wrong side of every fucking issue bowens43 Oct 2015 #9

Hey, hey!! Come on those aren't lies it's called measured and conditional Schroedinger's evolution TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #13

Your loathing for Hillary Clinton aside, she's on the CORRECT side of the issue. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #27

That doesn't make it CORRECT. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #41

It does in elections and when a majority supports it. Majority rule = democracy. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #42

Then why do we need a leader? Live and Learn Oct 2015 #43

Maybe because we have a representative government? BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #44

A representative government that calls for a leader? nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #47

Yes. A leader for the majority who has elected him/her to do what they want. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #49

A LEADER, which you have already admitted she is not. nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #61

Apparently, you don't understand the definition of "leader" in the political context. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #62

Currently, 40 percent of Democrats favor the death penalty, while 56 percent oppose it. think Oct 2015 #52

Yes. Among Democrats. However, currently, 57% of Independents approve of the DP. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #54

A higher percentage of death row inmates are black than those killed by the police jfern Oct 2015 #14

Ugh... Runs In The Family... WillyT Oct 2015 #15

I remember that Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #25

Very disappointing. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #16

Zero federal prisoners executed during the Obama administration jberryhill Oct 2015 #23

62 prisoners on Federal death row, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #30

6 out of 10 Americans support the death penalty. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #29

Nope, a good leader does the right thing even when the public is wrong. Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #31

Then I encourage ALL Sanders supporters to make him say it publicly, over and over again. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #35

She's a hawk and has no qualms with state sponsored killings, morningfog Oct 2015 #19

You think If Bernie were to somehow get himself elected moobu2 Oct 2015 #36

Which is a different question that supporting the state sponsored intentional killing morningfog Oct 2015 #56

I was responding to something else. moobu2 Oct 2015 #59

Then 6 out of 10 Americans are hawks with no qualms with state sponsored killings. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #37

President Elect Al Gore says Hi from 2000 Fumesucker Oct 2015 #46

6 out of 10 disgust me. morningfog Oct 2015 #55

I feel you, morningfog. Believe you me. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #57

But she's for gun control. hollowdweller Oct 2015 #50

She is for a "well regualted" gun-ownership society, yes. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #58

Mrs. Clinton continues to be a living political "wind sock". She always checks the ladjf Oct 2015 #33

I hope she evolves on this issue HassleCat Oct 2015 #53