2016 Postmortem

sheshe2

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185. Well of course you don't.

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:06 AM

Oct 2015

Star Member stevenleser (26,364 posts)
153. Did you read EarlG's banning statement? It's crystal clear.

"Called Hillary Clinton the c-word. Thought he was being clever about it. He was not."

No one was fooled by NYC_SKP's post:

NYC_SKP
55. Welcome to DU, Feel the Bern! And yes, it's a Cunning Stunt!

I say that to myself every day, over an over.

It can be a tongue twister!

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: a humorous mistake in which a speaker switches the first sounds of two or more words

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Words Used to Describe Hillary Clinton by Her Opponents. [View all] MineralMan Oct 2015 OP

I've not seen any of those here. ibegurpard Oct 2015 #1

Crone Ive seen here. boston bean Oct 2015 #4

You haven't? Here: MineralMan Oct 2015 #5

All of those links, with the exception of one, are from DU2.. frylock Oct 2015 #9

DU2 is still DU. MineralMan Oct 2015 #12

But only with the supporters, and not the candidate.. frylock Oct 2015 #23

On your first link the poster was tombstoned. So even if it was posted on DU, it appears the Cleita Oct 2015 #84

Shrill...... Florencenj2point0 Oct 2015 #198

We've certainly seen shrill here mcar Oct 2015 #18

Was Wall Street whore in that list? It was used back in the spring, alerted upon....... George II Oct 2015 #165

Does any of those refer to a Democrat? Mass Oct 2015 #2

See my #5. MineralMan Oct 2015 #6

So, some people we know nothing about Mass Oct 2015 #15

I only mentioned "her opponents." MineralMan Oct 2015 #19

You knew darn well what reaction you were going to get by posting this OP with the political stillwaiting Oct 2015 #213

"Bitchy" LoveIsNow Oct 2015 #53

Who tries to pretend that no opposition to Clinton is sexist? Are you talking about repubs? Vattel Oct 2015 #3

See my #5 and do your own searching on DU. MineralMan Oct 2015 #7

Fail. Only one of those posts suggests that she is not a victim of sexism. Vattel Oct 2015 #13

3 out of 4 of those links are from DU2. frylock Oct 2015 #11

You didn't link to any here on DU leftofcool Oct 2015 #8

No, I did not. That was not my point. MineralMan Oct 2015 #16

Yes, some of the worst offenders from then whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #21

They don't like to acknowledge that. frylock Oct 2015 #56

Yup whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #62

so.... it must be a whine from the ignored Hillary supporters Mnpaul Oct 2015 #132

You forgot. Indepatriot Oct 2015 #10

Yes, but none of those are gender specific whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #14

what? No male candidate is referred to as shrill, loud etc.... Florencenj2point0 Oct 2015 #200

I don't see any sexist epithet there. Doctor_J Oct 2015 #22

Well of course you don't. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #185

Those are all true n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #30

+1 dorkzilla Oct 2015 #72

Thank you MM mcar Oct 2015 #17

I said yesterday.... NCTraveler Oct 2015 #20

She does proceed with her head up. MineralMan Oct 2015 #24

blame them for being on guard? no. blame them for making stuff up? Doctor_J Oct 2015 #25

At least now Sanders calls his campaign's comments "inappropriate" Rose Siding Oct 2015 #26

That disappoints me. I liked that comment. Autumn Oct 2015 #29

Where did she accuse him of being sexists? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #33

Read my post again please. Autumn Oct 2015 #37

Why should her supporters apologize for for Sanders inappropriate remark? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #40

His remarks weren't inappropriate. Nor were they sexist as her supporters claim Autumn Oct 2015 #44

See post #26. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #47

Your point? I'm talking about Bernie being accused of sexism by Hillary supporters Autumn Oct 2015 #50

I am not trying to rewrite facts, I don't see a need to continue to post about this situation over Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #55

yes it is sexist.... telling a woman not to shout is sexist Florencenj2point0 Oct 2015 #201

You got a link to Bernie telling her not to shout? Take your time I'll wait for you to find it. Autumn Oct 2015 #204

Crybabyism AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #230

You won't find any instance of Bernie attaching any sexist name names to her or any woman. Autumn Oct 2015 #27

He addressed her by name. He did not say "gun debaters." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #32

Keep trying. Autumn Oct 2015 #36

What part of "I can tell Secretary Clinton..." do you not understand? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #49

Which part of he was addressing her comments do YOU not understand? She was not yelling, Autumn Oct 2015 #51

"She was not yelling, why would he accuse her of yelling if she wasn't yelling?" SunSeeker Oct 2015 #52

Right, she wasn't shouting. thesquanderer Oct 2015 #93

Thank you!! arcane1 Oct 2015 #122

Great links proving the "shouting" wasn't directed at her. Autumn Oct 2015 #127

And yet he addressed "Secretary Clinton" by name, not "people on both sides." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #151

Actually, it would be odd NOT to JimDandy Oct 2015 #182

If he was addressing other people, he should not have addressed Clinton by name. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #187

The fact that he was addressing his response TO her... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #203

Interesting point. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #214

that all THE shouting, not all YOUR or all HER shouting frylock Oct 2015 #57

He used her actual named instead of "your." nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #156

Imagine that. He addressed her by her correct name and title. Why, I ougghtta... merrily Oct 2015 #166

Well.... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #174

Untrue and a non sequitur, but keep trying! You're bound to nail it soon or later. Law of averages. merrily Oct 2015 #175

Untrue? sheshe2 Oct 2015 #181

What is untrue - or at least opinion rather than fact - is... thesquanderer Oct 2015 #243

Then he should have addressed the people he was talking about instead of "Secretary Clinton." nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #177

One addresses the person TO whom one is speaking, not the ones ABOUT whom one is speaking. merrily Oct 2015 #192

His timing and wording indicated he was speaking to and about Clinton. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #212

He has used that exact wording for years to speak generally and not to accuse any merrily Oct 2015 #229

He has not been telling "Secretary Clinton" she's shouting "for years." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #231

Correct. He never told Secretary Clinton she was shouting and her claim of sexism is trumped up merrily Oct 2015 #232

Oh but he did. IF he didn't mean it, he should say so. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #233

No, he did not and he has said so. merrily Oct 2015 #234

Got a link? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #235

He said it on national TV several times. merrily Oct 2015 #236

No, he never apologized nor even said he didn't mean it. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #237

He did say her interpretation was not his meaning and he had nothing for which to apologize. merrily Oct 2015 #238

Republicans are assholes. We know that already. arcane1 Oct 2015 #28

"Hillary is too stupid to be President." SixString Oct 2015 #31

! bvf Oct 2015 #46

Oh dear! frylock Oct 2015 #58

LOL. Nice catch! JimDandy Oct 2015 #186

Jeez! Figures.... whatchamacallit Oct 2015 #63

More proof. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #66

Good lord, is it All An Act for EVERY Clinton supporter? arcane1 Oct 2015 #75

They certainly don't have anything bad to say about the fakes Fumesucker Oct 2015 #249

Ooofa...that's gonna leave a mark...nt dorkzilla Oct 2015 #78

Ooofa? Is that some kind of technical term from the Lexus owner's manual? merrily Oct 2015 #146

It's a special organic lavender and seaweed-infused sponge that's a favorite with latte-drinkers dorkzilla Oct 2015 #189

I admit it. I have a little bowl of lavender on my nightstand. merrily Oct 2015 #191

Ha! My step-family (and ex-huband) are Jewish dorkzilla Oct 2015 #194

When I am at a Seder, I feel the desert sand under my feet, no exaggeration. merrily Oct 2015 #195

Shpilkes! I have that too! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #207

Thanks. I'll have to look into walking meditation. merrily Oct 2015 #208

Hillary is too stupid to be President **IF** .... Martin Eden Oct 2015 #79

I did not. They be a strange group, them Hillary supporters. nt cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #96

Wow UglyGreed Oct 2015 #102

I thought he posted at Free Republic and was against Obama? Am I remembering wrong? Autumn Oct 2015 #118

Nope. Posted at FREEP against Obama, posted here supporting Obama, posted against Hillary in 2008, merrily Oct 2015 #158

Oh yeah. Lot of... evolving there. Autumn Oct 2015 #160

I see your point. merrily Oct 2015 #172

... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #123

Same guy? Unbelievable. Broward Oct 2015 #125

The Great Lakes' answer to Steven Leser Doctor_J Oct 2015 #133

We never learned what she did to become an "un-liar" in his eyes. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #178

I love the "death to the fascist wing of the Dem" dorkzilla Oct 2015 #210

Meh. They can talk all the shit about me they want... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #255

"What I wrote was based on incorrect information." WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #179

A phony hypocrite is exposed. 99Forever Oct 2015 #193

I guess I find it hard to Puglover Oct 2015 #202

I'm reccing this thread... Dr. Strange Oct 2015 #220

Yeah...I stayed out of this thread, but now I'm suddenly interested. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #244

El.Oh.El AzDar Oct 2015 #246

And your point is? Armstead Oct 2015 #34

My reply for those a-holes: "Oderint dum metuant" DinahMoeHum Oct 2015 #35

Uppity meow2u3 Oct 2015 #38

What is the rationale for hypocrite being sexist? TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #100

I'll go with warmonger and corporatist. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #39

Yep. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #42

The same title also apply to Sanders. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #43

You're funny. Or deluded. I'm not sure which. n/t Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #67

I might be funny, no not deluded. Check his record on voting for military action and check to see Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #89

I'm willing to concede Sanders isn't perfect on these issues. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #143

Then by some of the talking points here Sanders would be a war hawk. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #180

Not even a teensy funny. merrily Oct 2015 #137

Surprisingly, "shouty" isn't on there. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #41

Most if not all of those are from her right-wing opponents KamaAina Oct 2015 #45

The entire point of the OP is to lump all "opponents" together as one. arcane1 Oct 2015 #48

The OP is a master of disingenuous rhetoric. Maedhros Oct 2015 #69

That's the sense I get. Really gives me a warm fuzzy to pull that lever for the leading candidate to Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #74

What's REALLY weird is when her supporters call her an "inveterate liar". cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #54

Did you catch this gem? frylock Oct 2015 #61

LOL You two are ruining perfectly good fake bullshit! arcane1 Oct 2015 #71

Mineralman said Hillary Clinton was too stupid to be President? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #77

Correct, Mineralman said Hillary Clinton was too stupid to be President. frylock Oct 2015 #99

The same Mineralman who created this thread said Hillary Clinton was too stupid... Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #105

The person who said "Hillary Clinton is too stupid to be President" is the same Mineralman.. frylock Oct 2015 #106

Interesting. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #108

Shocking, even. frylock Oct 2015 #115

Honestly it is pretty shocking and a fine example of being hoisted on one's own petard Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #116

I'd be too ashamed and embarrassed to post here for a few days myself.. frylock Oct 2015 #117

Indeed. kenfrequed Oct 2015 #221

It's evident that some people just have no shame. frylock Oct 2015 #242

The internet doesn't seem to forget kenfrequed Oct 2015 #219

I agree Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #222

Do you ever wonder... kenfrequed Oct 2015 #223

Is Cha now a Hillary supporter? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #81

Cha is a regular on the Clinton Cave site now n/t arcane1 Oct 2015 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #92

hillaryclintonsupporters.com is a site that people go to talk shit about DU's Sanders supporters.. frylock Oct 2015 #101

DU okasha Oct 2015 #130

Try again. frylock Oct 2015 #131

Perhaps you're too close to the phenomenon to see it clearly. okasha Oct 2015 #134

Naw, my view is just fine from here.. frylock Oct 2015 #138

We agree! I see exactly the same thing. okasha Oct 2015 #139

No, we are not in agreement. frylock Oct 2015 #224

Boom~ sheshe2 Oct 2015 #149

More info: arcane1 Oct 2015 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #129

For something so easily dismissed, you sure typed a lot of words to discredit it. arcane1 Oct 2015 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #153

I'm not " critisizing another for visiting anoter site" arcane1 Oct 2015 #215

I'm a member there ismnotwasm Oct 2015 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #157

JHC! sheshe2 Oct 2015 #147

I knew Cha better when I used to hang out here. misterhighwasted Oct 2015 #161

I will miss you mister. sheshe2 Oct 2015 #164

Oh. My. God. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #159

I can't believe that there's more than one site discussing politics........ George II Oct 2015 #163

Just don't reveal names. NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #171

Do we have to repost your bon mots from that other site again? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #183

And plotting to "prod" people into getting their posts hidden arcane1 Oct 2015 #216

.... sheshe2 Oct 2015 #169

Well, excactly. n/t NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #173

Chairperson of Hillary's DU effort. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #94

Cha said Hillary is an inveterate liar? Wow... Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #107

Also said Hillary is morally depraved. Autumn Oct 2015 #121

But she meant that in a good way MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #135

WAS morally depraved. now she's the best choice for leader of the free world. Doctor_J Oct 2015 #140

Yes, WAS. Mineralman literally pulled that in this thread. Clinton WAS stupid he says. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #150

SHAME on you for pointing this out. Puglover Oct 2015 #209

The OP once believed gays shouldn't be around children, so anything is possible. arcane1 Oct 2015 #218

Yes it's entirely possible to go from "moral depravity" to... Autumn Oct 2015 #228

People pretend any opposition to her is sexist Android3.14 Oct 2015 #59

Oooooh, oooooh, Mr. Kotter!! I have one: "Mentirosa"... AzDar Oct 2015 #60

But Bernie's opposition to her isn't any of that, Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #64

But remember, it's we liberals who are the real fucking problem. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #65

I think you should address your own extremely nasty barbs at her being quoted in this thread Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #68

Inveterate liar was a different DUer dorkzilla Oct 2015 #87

And then there is Reply #14 Puglover Oct 2015 #205

Wow, so she's become LESS warmonger-y since '08 dorkzilla Oct 2015 #206

And???? 840high Oct 2015 #70

Loud? Obnoxious? Rude? thesquanderer Oct 2015 #73

Really. Why are those in there? redgreenandblue Oct 2015 #188

HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON.... retrowire Oct 2015 #76

Google it. MineralMan Oct 2015 #80

"Too stupid to be president" is a compliment, I suppose? arcane1 Oct 2015 #82

Seems MM UglyGreed Oct 2015 #113

Are you claiming that this is common on DU? MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #85

Nope. I didn't mention DU in the OP MineralMan Oct 2015 #88

So then you must be claiming that DUers say there's no sexism MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #95

Lots of things are puzzling, Manny. MineralMan Oct 2015 #98

Absolutely. because I just read a link where you said Hillary Clinton is too stupid to be President. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #110

She was that year. Obama won. MineralMan Oct 2015 #112

Hmm your statement just now sounds full of shit. Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #114

Full, indeed. merrily Oct 2015 #199

Do you still believe "Romney Wouldn't be a bad VP pick by any means"? Autumn Oct 2015 #124

Remember that you're talking to people okasha Oct 2015 #162

Why is Hillary co-opting his old, stale ideas? frylock Oct 2015 #225

She isn't. okasha Oct 2015 #239

Uhhh... no. frylock Oct 2015 #241

I have no idea what goes on in your memory. okasha Oct 2015 #247

My memory may be faulty, but my ability to search the net isn't.. frylock Oct 2015 #248

Your memory probably is faulty, and so is your "research,." okasha Oct 2015 #250

I'll rely on the word of other posters on this forum who disagree. frylock Oct 2015 #251

Now you're wasn'theresplainin'. okasha Oct 2015 #252

I get it. As a straight, white male I'm supposed to stfu. frylock Oct 2015 #253

LOL! merrily Oct 2015 #168

"She's smarter now"? You really want to fucking say that in 2008 Autumn Oct 2015 #176

You do realize that the US President is MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #197

Not claiming, but dishonestly implying. arcane1 Oct 2015 #91

Sure seems that way MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #97

There's always the tried and true "incorrect information." WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #184

Oh Goddess. MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #196

Holy shit! dorkzilla Oct 2015 #211

It's almost as if it's all an act, and the poster is nothing more than a hack. arcane1 Oct 2015 #217

How incredibly vile. frylock Oct 2015 #226

Overly sensitive is one I see used for women. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #86

Yes. It's a systemic problem. MineralMan Oct 2015 #90

That does not mean that no woman is overly sensitive. Some women are, and some men are. merrily Oct 2015 #119

I will not search the links you provided. I feel no need. guillaumeb Oct 2015 #103

Kicking and reccing for exposure. frylock Oct 2015 #104

Point is, there was no sexist component to Sanders remark about shouting about gun control. merrily Oct 2015 #109

Hotair.com? Breitbart? Hmmmmm... AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #111

K&R for the hypocrisy Fumesucker Oct 2015 #126

Novel. I've never kicked or recommended for hypocrisy. Maybe I should start? merrily Oct 2015 #136

Outstanding effort should be recognized and rewarded Fumesucker Oct 2015 #141

outstanding effort? No offense to you or MineralMan intended, but did you and I read the same OP? merrily Oct 2015 #145

He utterly destroyed what credibility he had left, if any Fumesucker Oct 2015 #148

How much credibility would you say he had before the OP of this thread? merrily Oct 2015 #155

About this much... Fumesucker Oct 2015 #167

LOL! He thinks she's stupid to be President, so her opinion hardly matters to him. merrily Oct 2015 #170

did you miss the part where Mineralman said Hillary Clinton is too stupid to be President? Bread and Circus Oct 2015 #152

No, I did not miss that. If I could rec some of the posts on this thread, I would. merrily Oct 2015 #154

This thread went from dreadful strawman BS to fucking awesome in the course of 24 hours. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #245

Oh noez! 99Forever Oct 2015 #128

"people try to pretend there isn't a sexist component to opposition to her."- they do? Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #190

Gee, so we need to make it all better for her by making her Prezident! djean111 Oct 2015 #227

ignore......... smiley Oct 2015 #240

And since every strong woman in the country has been called the same, they will vote for her. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #254