2016 Postmortem

oasis

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97. It's nearing "cut to the chase"time.

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The Clinton Campaign Has Secured Commitment of 500+ Super Delegates [View all] JaneyVee Oct 2015 OP

Of course DustyJoe Oct 2015 #1

Me either newfie11 Oct 2015 #9

Which states' voters will "overwhelmingly" vote for an opponent? George II Oct 2015 #23

How exactly are you determining that voters are overwhelmingly for Sanders? mythology Oct 2015 #25

theoretically theft. no surprise here roguevalley Oct 2015 #38

It's amazing how some people find conspiracy theories mythology Oct 2015 #61

You can tell that the People support Sanders, because "People" is capitalized... brooklynite Oct 2015 #87

But no states are going to overwhelmingly vote for an opponent MohRokTah Oct 2015 #41

Great News! BooScout Oct 2015 #2

Truly amazing. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #3

Back in 2008, both the two major candidates were more under control of big donor money then... cascadiance Oct 2015 #56

I completely disagree with your last paragraph but don't disagree with all of your post. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #66

I'm not trying to make pols like Lewis "bad" by endorsing Hillary now... cascadiance Oct 2015 #72

Congressman John Lewis Endorses Hillary Clinton NCTraveler Oct 2015 #74

I'm sure he likes her more than Republicans of course too... cascadiance Oct 2015 #77

they can shift at any time bigtree Oct 2015 #4

There is not enough super delegates to overtake 50% + of the primary so if they all changed there is Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #17

30% on a good day, more like 15-20% after the Primaries George II Oct 2015 #24

it's a silly boast bigtree Oct 2015 #29

But almost nobody supports anybody else MohRokTah Oct 2015 #42

not moot bigtree Oct 2015 #48

. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #49

. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #58

ugh bigtree Oct 2015 #65

Boast? No, check back next year after the convention, tell me if I am boasting. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #84

I think a lot of folks here have forgotten about the importance of the vote bigtree Oct 2015 #86

Yes, I have seen several others saying the candidate who is polling low is going to win, polls Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #88

As some congressional members has the primary in their state there will be more endorsements. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #5

Obama and Biden won't until Hillary has it secured by actual votes. morningfog Oct 2015 #6

So democracy? Fearless Oct 2015 #7

Right! newfie11 Oct 2015 #12

Shenanigans? It is won by getting the votes. If you are saying Sanders is going to get less than Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #18

Let me give you an interesting scenario, and I want your honest answer. Teagan Oct 2015 #69

Where did you find the information if the state caucuses with a candidate the super delegates goes Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #75

So you think superdelegates are more powerful than caucus voters? Teagan Oct 2015 #76

Here is a link to what a superdelegate is: Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #79

It is a way to cheat democracy in favor of oligarchy. Fearless Oct 2015 #93

.... RiverLover Oct 2015 #14

One has to play to win. Looks like team Sanders is a bit late figuring out how it is done. livetohike Oct 2015 #8

She has a stellar electoral record. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #13

So you're saying it's not lack of knowledge it's incompetence? Amimnoch Oct 2015 #15

He has not run in a Presidential election. Hillary had gone through livetohike Oct 2015 #22

Those two elections with her husband and one of her own (Senate) still couldn't save her in 2008 BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #39

and yet you're supporting the same candidate that couldn't do it before? Teagan Oct 2015 #71

Yes. I'm a Democrat. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #80

Senator Barack Obama was far more of a novice than Bernie Sanders. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #28

so that's how it's done eh? azurnoir Oct 2015 #16

That's the way the process works. n/t livetohike Oct 2015 #20

so it's those what gots - gets even if it's political grease azurnoir Oct 2015 #33

I'm talking about the delegates/ the electoral process and how a candidate gets elected. livetohike Oct 2015 #55

No the delegates are not wealthy and I never said that azurnoir Oct 2015 #70

And the process will doom the party for years if they override the will of the electorate. frylock Oct 2015 #45

No, he's that EASY to work with. Ino Oct 2015 #60

good stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #10

Congrats to Hillary and her Team. riversedge Oct 2015 #11

There will be 4720 total delegates at the convention. MineralMan Oct 2015 #19

She does like her lists of "who was helpful" and who wasn't GummyBearz Oct 2015 #21

You may dislike her "take no prisoners" style now, but when she wins the nom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #30

No we won't but most or some of is will hold our noses and vote for her anyway azurnoir Oct 2015 #36

No, I won't, and if she gets superdelegates that she didn't actually win adigal Oct 2015 #52

Superdelegates/delegates only matter in a CLOSE election, like the 2008 election. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #54

Please read what I said...I wouldn't "take my ball and leave because I didn't win" adigal Oct 2015 #67

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Oct 2015 #26

Riddle Me This - Does This Reflect Quid Pro Quo In Action cantbeserious Oct 2015 #27

Excellent! BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #31

Why bother voting if the vote is immaterial? NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #32

Delegates matter when the vote totals are extremely close, as was the case BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #40

Superdelegates are a symptom of our party's broken primary system. blackspade Oct 2015 #34

Superdelegates guarantee NO MORE MCGOVERNS!!!!! MohRokTah Oct 2015 #43

It would be a mistake JonLeibowitz Oct 2015 #57

McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis MohRokTah Oct 2015 #81

Or Carters I suppose.... blackspade Oct 2015 #85

Carter was opposed by the Left. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #89

Not my point. blackspade Oct 2015 #90

Then you failed to grasp the original point to begin with. eom MohRokTah Oct 2015 #91

Nope. blackspade Oct 2015 #92

Superdelegates helped Mondale get the nomination so he could lose 49 states jfern Oct 2015 #96

"Ordinary voter" here. klook Oct 2015 #35

Back door strategy to steal it before even a single voter has spoken. Cassiopeia Oct 2015 #37

Yep. frylock Oct 2015 #46

The Democrats will become the Whigs if they choose to be UNDemocratic through these actions!! cascadiance Oct 2015 #62

Conservatives do like low voter turnout. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #63

Just another part of the voting sham. nt valerief Oct 2015 #44

Bernie is the outsider, the nerd, and Hillary is the captain of the cheerleading squad AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #47

BTW Superdelegates must be the Democratic Party establishment's guard against outsiders... AZ Progressive Oct 2015 #50

Compared to 2008? PATRICK Oct 2015 #51

Well, thank goodness the nomination process is over and done with jberryhill Oct 2015 #53

And this is why the repugs will win PFunk1 Oct 2015 #59

Awesome! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #64

Are they binding? n/t Autumn Oct 2015 #68

It's all over but the conspiracy theories about voter fraud alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #73

Hillarious. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #78

You think Bernie's refusal to call himself a Democrat might be why he has no superdelegates? DCBob Oct 2015 #82

This is great news Gothmog Oct 2015 #83

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #94

Good! Cha Oct 2015 #95

It's nearing "cut to the chase"time. oasis Oct 2015 #97