2016 Postmortem

sabrina 1

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98. Well we will have to agree to disagree on who is disrupting this site. I am working hard for Bernie

Sat Oct 31, 2015, 04:23 AM

Oct 2015

also here in a very rural part of upstate NY. I am amazed to find that people here even know who he is. He is resonating with a part of the country that is quite Conservative, though not the extreme kiind. Just hard working people who are surprisingly interested in someone they have been taught to oppose. It's quite exciting actually. I am seeing Bernie stickers in towns up here where I never expected to find them.

And for the first time ever, in a conservative area, I am not worried about wearing a Bernie t-shirt because it seems he doesn't have a negative effect even on Republicans.

I've been on DU a long time and never been a disrupter, but this is the first time I have ever been called a racist, a white supremacist, simply for supporting someone other than Hillary.

It has caused many good longtime DUers to go elsewhere. Thankfully it is a big internet now unlike when we first signed up on this site, so there are places where Bernie's supporters can do what they WERE doing here at first, simply support their candidate, until the vile smears began, the personal attacks, the flame baiting threads etc.

No I don't count you or others among the disrupters. But I know that even some of Hillary's supporters are feeling very uncomfortable about what is going on here now.

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Hillary's direct quote on Raising the Retirement age: 'I would consider it'! [View all] sabrina 1 Oct 2015 OP

Since we're quoting it, you should update your OP title. Agschmid Oct 2015 #1

I will update this when the other OP is updated. I at least posted the full quote. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #3

You did... Agschmid Oct 2015 #5

I will edit that. But to be frank, I was under the impression that details don't matter much on DU sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #18

Yah I think that's pretty true on both sides. Agschmid Oct 2015 #19

No, it's not actually. I know that for a fact. But I see no point in maintaining an ethical sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #34

So again I guess I'm a Hillary supporter who bucks the trend... Agschmid Oct 2015 #37

Well we will have to agree to disagree on who is disrupting this site. I am working hard for Bernie sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #98

I'd like to know where those other Bernie-loving places are, if you would, please PM.... Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #115

100 days until the first primary davidpdx Oct 2015 #102

" I would **not** favor raising the retirement age" - just for details sake Sheepshank Oct 2015 #25

Unfortunately she went on to say how, if someone could present her with a way to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #100

I'm glad you're still here. You know why? PatrickforO Oct 2015 #33

That's a great reply, man. DocMac Oct 2015 #60

A point should be made here. While Sanders supporters continue to discuss issues, HRC supporters rhett o rick Oct 2015 #32

Yes because we all do just that. Agschmid Oct 2015 #38

I see thread after thread discussing many issues and very rarely do rhett o rick Oct 2015 #45

Well, you tried. frylock Oct 2015 #67

I have tried maybe a hundred times to engage HRC supporters in honest discussions rhett o rick Oct 2015 #73

I'm not willing to engage in a "honest discussion" with you. Agschmid Oct 2015 #87

No HRC supporter will discuss issues. It's authoritarian worship. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #92

You are living in denial land. HRC supporters never talk to issues but throw ad hominem attacks. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #86

"You stand with Chevron"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #88

HRC supporters never discuss issues. Prove me wrong. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #91

On here there isn't much point... Agschmid Oct 2015 #95

True! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #62

Yep. All I hear from "them" is that she has great poll numbers, and that she "deserves it." reformist2 Oct 2015 #103

I got the gist . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #4

I wonder why the OP failed to bold this part of the quote?...... Sheepshank Oct 2015 #10

Well I think it's pretty clear why. Agschmid Oct 2015 #11

People including moi have posted the full paragraph numerous times Armstead Oct 2015 #90

Because there is more after that which leaves the door open Armstead Oct 2015 #89

From the article, "I would ***not*** favor raising the retirement age" Sheepshank Oct 2015 #23

Yeah well you have to choose your battles sometimes... Agschmid Oct 2015 #24

Misleading headline, you forgot the word ***NOT *** from the title in the OP Sheepshank Oct 2015 #41

Did you mean that for me? Agschmid Oct 2015 #43

Well...it was a tad misplaced Sheepshank Oct 2015 #46

No problem. Agschmid Oct 2015 #50

The only time Hillary contradicts herself, is when you listen to what she says . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #2

HA! ejbr Oct 2015 #57

The OP is essentially a lie. Sanders supporters must be desperate. If you gave a shit KittyWampus Oct 2015 #6

Hey, I just did what you did. Took a quote out of context and made it a headline. Then did what you sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #8

Actually, it's your post that's the big lie. Here's your precious "next" paragraph - doesn't change in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #27

Thank you. I love how people whine when they post out of context quotes and then someone does the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #49

:) Aaaah...just playing with the kiddies. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #61

Yes, seriously just playing. This isn't a place to be serious anymore. But it is fun watching the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #63

Great strategy! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #65

In lieu of telling us how you feel about HRC's stand on SS, you choose to talk about rhett o rick Oct 2015 #47

Thatagirl, floriduck Oct 2015 #7

'swishy' I will add that to the list of words used to attack Democrats who have fought for the sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #9

clip, and paste and highlight misleading quotes...typical Sheepshank Oct 2015 #12

Yes, that is exactly right. And why I posted THIS OP. Did you go into the OP that inspired this one sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #15

Cherry picking, and out of context heading.....now who in the hell from the left does that? Sheepshank Oct 2015 #48

So you object to the other OP that 'cherry picked' a quote, and worse, didn't even include the full sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #54

I'm that post was talking about Hillary... Agschmid Oct 2015 #13

I don't think we've ever met. floriduck Oct 2015 #14

Then explain to me how you would know that someone you never met has done nothng to preserve SS?? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #16

Yah... Agschmid Oct 2015 #20

Thank you for understanding that. floriduck Oct 2015 #39

Everyone is on the defensive around here so I can understand the mistake Sabrina made. Agschmid Oct 2015 #40

I'd love to know what "way" she could find that would NOT penalize certain types of CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #17

That's THE question, isn't it? Who does she WANT to punish and penalize? And what does that kind sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #21

Yes...the words "punish" and "penalize" show her mindset loud and clear. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #22

Sickening to me. Coming from such a very privileged woman. I guess I would be among those she wants sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #26

I don't think Hillary was implying that some people deserve to be penalized. Maedhros Oct 2015 #30

You know, I don't think she cares about truck drivers or laborers CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #36

I don't think she really has puppet masters. She is one of them at least in the PR/political arm TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #64

Good point, but didn't Third Way officials warn her the other day not to CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #66

Yeah, framing. That and the money bags have become insanely thin skinned TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #79

Reagan raised it from 65 to 67 for those born 1960 or later jfern Oct 2015 #28

It was raised by the bi-partisan "Greenspan commission". PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #35

yes, I'm not sure why "I would consider it" is so hard for the fan club to understand Doctor_J Oct 2015 #29

That's not the talk of a "progressive". nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #42

Hillary talks out of both sides of her mouth. Broward Oct 2015 #31

Thank you!!! And that sums up how she works! SoapBox Oct 2015 #51

lmao oh my sides retrowire Oct 2015 #44

She's a corporate "Democrat" which is little more than a Nixon Republican emsimon33 Oct 2015 #52

Raising the retirement age to keep Social Security solvent is just stupid. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #53

Agreed Sheepshank Oct 2015 #55

Right, and while you've called her out on it, you refuse to condemn the other thread.. frylock Oct 2015 #68

It also can only shrink wages over careers as well. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #74

The biggest problem Social Security has is dirty fucks trying to kill it. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #82

Didn't Obama already destroy Social Security? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #56

Didn't Bush privatize it? He proposed chained CPI in broad daylight, your flippant "response" TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #75

You mean he dangled a carrot in front of the crazies. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #85

Why? And why didn't he dangle some other carrot? Stop the nonsense, he is FOR Chained CPI made sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #99

Past Obama budget proposals included the chained CPI. Broward Oct 2015 #104

So basically, I'm keeping my options open? Phlem Oct 2015 #58

Still waiting homegirl Oct 2015 #59

One politician has. Bernie Sanders! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #69

Obama said he favored that, but it didn't happen when Democrats controlled Congress PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #81

Maybe she will. Maybe she won't. And, that's a promise! Either way, it will be a "Hard Choice" Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #70

True. We'll have to wait and see, I suppose. But I'm with the candidate who doesn't seem to have a sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #71

Me too. HRC seems to consider non-choices "hard", CYA kinda, maybe, choices not so "hard". Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #96

When would you consider the Gold Standard not to be the Gold Standard aspirant Oct 2015 #72

A good leader should "consider" everything. Good decisions are made after consideration of kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #76

"Consider everything" aspirant Oct 2015 #77

Explaiin that please. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #78

If I could figure out a way to eat, clothe, house ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #80

Excuse me? We are not talking about people who are criminals here, though I can't blame you for sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #83

You are becoming more and more "interesting" ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #84

She just SAID 'I would consider it'! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #93

Let me ask ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #106

How about she simply were to say... Armstead Oct 2015 #94

She can't speak in a straightforward manner because her pollsters tell her to speak about a given Bernblu Oct 2015 #97

Probably because politicians (and, Diplomats), which ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #105

Since those are all so nebulous it woud be safe to say no Armstead Oct 2015 #107

So it boils down to ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #108

It boils down to always being that way Armstead Oct 2015 #109

Social Security retirement age has been on track to go up BlueStateLib Oct 2015 #101

And every effort should be made to stop the Republicans and their bosses from raising it anymore. sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #111

And Hillary would consider raising it, yet again Oilwellian Oct 2015 #112

As someone who is too young to collect SS but too old glinda Oct 2015 #110

I'm sorry Glinda, you are not alone at all, and unless you are a construction worker, truck driver sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #113

Because giving the GOP whatever they want is 'pragmatic' AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #114