Why would we want a nominee that SO MANY PEOPLE already HATE or dislike?

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170. Which is why I keep tying the discussion to a point to measure against.

There's a reason I keep talking about centrist Democrats. It becomes the point around which we can measure.

With every election for some time now, the people who believed them have been increasingly more surprised by the realities revealed when the votes are counted.

That's why Gallop has pulled out of polling candidate positions this time around. Their results and predictions have become increasingly and unacceptably inaccurate.

Largely because "unaffiliated" voters have been treated as "swing" voters. Thus averaging out Democratic-leaning and Republican leaning.

But swing, Democratic-leaning and Republican-leaning are three different groups with different behaviors. Lumping them together provides as accurate a picture as lumping together registered Democrats and registered Republicans.

Also, Gallup has done a lousy job of making up for the statistical anomalies caused by relying on landline polling. That's a large reason why their polling has gotten less and less accurate over the last two decades. But that is Gallup's pre-election polling. I'm talking about the output of exit polling, where we are literally counting the electorate instead of guessing at the electorate.