2016 Postmortem

Art_from_Ark

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29. They didn't dump nuclear waste on poor brown folks

Tue Nov 3, 2015, 03:30 AM

Nov 2015

The Sierra Blanca site was rejected on October 20, 1998-- 17 years ago-- by Texas officials after opposition to it was voiced by, ironically, then-Texas governor George Bush, who had originally been one of the site's biggest backers.

http://www.umich.edu/~snre492/blanca.html

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Politifact: Sanders "Actively Ushered" Bill to Dump Nuclear Waste Near Poor West Texas Town [View all] RandySF Nov 2015 OP

Yes--it was a disgraceful chapter in his career, one that even VT activists didn't agree with. MADem Nov 2015 #1

The person who posted that article had her thread hidden BainsBane Nov 2015 #8

I find that very interesting bravenak Nov 2015 #13

But they claim they want to "discuss the issues". JaneyVee Nov 2015 #22

Only issues bad for Hillary. bravenak Nov 2015 #25

Such as? SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #59

Republican lies bravenak Nov 2015 #62

Which are posted and Re-posted week after week riversedge Nov 2015 #85

which one would you like? restorefreedom Nov 2015 #93

Use your DU search feature to find articles posted here from MADem Nov 2015 #119

It is a real problem and some of the ones who arent paid to be here by Karl Rove are randys1 Nov 2015 #154

I agree. When I see those sites without any "grain of salt" MADem Nov 2015 #170

Darn, you got us Scootaloo Nov 2015 #177

If the "legitimate criticisms of Clinton from the left" are indeed, MADem Nov 2015 #179

I see claims, but no support for them Scootaloo Nov 2015 #181

You can do your own homework, if you've a mind. MADem Nov 2015 #183

Why would I do work to support your claim? Support it yourself, if you can Scootaloo Nov 2015 #192

I'm not going to be sucked into an alert scenario, thanks anyway. nt MADem Nov 2015 #194

Hmmm--odd, double post! I deleted this one. NT MADem Nov 2015 #180

Well, outside of their group, nobody believes that. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #134

the Berniebro bullyboys are out in force tonight mwrguy Nov 2015 #18

I can picture them right now... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #24

That's how you see Sanders supporters? That's funny Scootaloo Nov 2015 #176

It's a shame that this place has sunk so low. MADem Nov 2015 #122

I saw that--disgraceful. There's no excuse for that kind of "partisan censorship." MADem Nov 2015 #32

I noticed you left off the title to the article. JimDandy Nov 2015 #38

Well, that goes both ways. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #55

if you were banned how are you still here ? JI7 Nov 2015 #65

Probably blocked from Hillary group... Human101948 Nov 2015 #79

You're not missing much, I don't imagine. Scootaloo Nov 2015 #156

That's exactly what happened. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #166

Sorry--that's not the same thing. MADem Nov 2015 #106

No, she posted a libelous title to an article, the same title you weren't willing post JimDandy Nov 2015 #124

Utter nonsense. The title was the title given by the TX OBSERVER. MADem Nov 2015 #125

"Talking trash" by saying nobody is on par with Elizabeth Warren? SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #167

You were in the CLINTON group. The issue isn't saints, it's MADem Nov 2015 #169

Well, that explains that. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #193

Just couldn't handle the facts. Cha Nov 2015 #92

No, it contained the libelous, ugly title of the article, too JimDandy Nov 2015 #33

Libel is a legal term BainsBane Nov 2015 #46

"Drop dead" is a legitimate journalistic metaphor used R B Garr Nov 2015 #84

Yes but Drop Dead was put in quotes. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #107

Lol, it's a journalistic metaphor and is commonly R B Garr Nov 2015 #114

And what law school did you attend? Agschmid Nov 2015 #136

LOL! I'll rephrase: factually incorrect assertion in printed text. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #163

No, not when it's in quotes. That was an ugly smear, a lie JimDandy Nov 2015 #108

Sanders own words were ugly, and he was coldly R B Garr Nov 2015 #111

You're regurgitating ugly lies and you're losing the argument. JimDandy Nov 2015 #115

You called Clinton a Queen, so it looks like your R B Garr Nov 2015 #120

You should be proud...Queen is used to show someone JimDandy Nov 2015 #123

No, you used Queen as a sneering, derogatory term. R B Garr Nov 2015 #139

I think you're the one who has lost the argument, and you're not dealing with it MADem Nov 2015 #173

I posted the newspaper article in it's entirety, in photo form. MADem Nov 2015 #147

Exactly, BB. Why do they find some of BS's past so distasteful they want to censor it!!? Cha Nov 2015 #49

I wondered about that hide Scootaloo Nov 2015 #155

I haven't seen them BainsBane Nov 2015 #162

Who would admit to serving on that kangaroo court? nt MADem Nov 2015 #171

Where is this from? SoapBox Nov 2015 #31

It was way back when VT was shipping their shit to TX--in the 90s, when Sanders was a Rep. MADem Nov 2015 #37

Lol Texas had to permit such a dump to be located there actually 2 such dumps azurnoir Nov 2015 #43

TX oligarchy was willing to subject citizens to it so Rose Siding Nov 2015 #94

No one took advantage of anything Vt needed to dispose of largely medical waste azurnoir Nov 2015 #95

And absolve the congressman who told the TX activists to MADem Nov 2015 #121

You know NY literally shipped their shit to Sierra Blanca for years, by train. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #113

It's OK when New York does it. Because of reasons. arcane1 Nov 2015 #116

Yeah, I am not feeling that "excuse" at all. Two Wrongs Makes a Right is usually abandoned in MADem Nov 2015 #130

And? They shouldn't have done that either--but two wrongs do not make a right. MADem Nov 2015 #117

The point is that this issue is being exploited by people who are so unaware of Sierra Blanca's Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #144

Your focus is wrong. Turn AWAY from Sierra Blanca. MADem Nov 2015 #146

Ah so the people of Sierra Blanca are props to you. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #158

You do realize that you're gish galloping away from the point MADem Nov 2015 #172

1998 RandySF Nov 2015 #41

2 years after the Bill Clinton campaigned to be re-elected on the backs of those same azurnoir Nov 2015 #44

but he didn't dump waste on their heads... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #71

Neither did Bernie odd how Hillary's people are willing to give Texas's Republican State azurnoir Nov 2015 #72

Yeah he did.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #74

Lol maybe you need to read the entire thread he did not azurnoir Nov 2015 #75

He still voted for it....Politifact... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #81

yes he did the rest is extrapolation and IMO giving repukes an undeserved break azurnoir Nov 2015 #87

Oh yeah...a break! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #89

Bernie wears a halo? that's a rather out of place comment don't you think? azurnoir Nov 2015 #96

Some on DU seem to think so..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #97

Can you link me up to a comment from a Bernie supporter saying that? azurnoir Nov 2015 #98

hang around.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #99

In other words you can't azurnoir Nov 2015 #100

No in other words I am not going to... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #101

first I'm not a dude I'm a woman and second just for the record I' almost 60 azurnoir Nov 2015 #102

Just for the record...I am in my 50's VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #103

didn't clinton sign it into law? questionseverything Nov 2015 #133

Yes. Bill Clinton did sign it into law. (nt) PotatoChip Nov 2015 #186

If that is your argument, then Bill Clinton apparently did not care about brown people either. PotatoChip Nov 2015 #188

Yes he did. He was POTUS at the time, and signed the bill into law. (nt) PotatoChip Nov 2015 #184

For a state? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #185

Bill Clinton signed it as POTUS. PotatoChip Nov 2015 #187

Bernie opposes nuclear energy because, in part, of the waste. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #42

"geology in Vermont is even less safe for storing nuclear waste than the particular area of Texas" BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #140

We should not use nuclear energy because we have no place that is really safe for the waste. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #142

Very good post, the war hawk has to apply to Sanders since he has more than one time voted for Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #161

Superb post. Just superb. MADem Nov 2015 #174

Thank you, MADem. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #189

Interesting. I saw your post, clicked the link, logged into FB, searched the group and never found Autumn Nov 2015 #159

The problem is yours, I'm afraid--I just clicked a second ago, on the same link, MADem Nov 2015 #175

The post is there on your link. When you click Like on the page belonging to Autumn Nov 2015 #191

When I click on the link, it goes straight to the post. MADem Nov 2015 #195

That's exactly what I said in my post. Autumn Nov 2015 #196

But the post is still in their newsfeed. If the post was "removed" MADem Nov 2015 #197

The post was shared by 4 people so yes it is still on FB. Somewhere. That post is not on Autumn Nov 2015 #198

So they DUMPED nuclear waste on poor brown folks? I refuse to believe Bernie would stand for that! bravenak Nov 2015 #2

They didn't dump nuclear waste on poor brown folks Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #29

So nothing is there? I knew he wouldn't do such a thing! bravenak Nov 2015 #30

Nope there isn't but do keep up the efforts azurnoir Nov 2015 #73

It takes absolutely no effort. That is the sad part. None. bravenak Nov 2015 #76

no poo flinging doesn't take much effort at all does it? azurnoir Nov 2015 #77

I do not need to fling poo. Just be extra polite. bravenak Nov 2015 #80

Indeed you are!!! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #82

Thank you!! bravenak Nov 2015 #83

when who stops? but I agree you have all the right in world to fling poo azurnoir Nov 2015 #86

When the stupid stops. I simply cannot take it anymore. bravenak Nov 2015 #90

You are spreading delusional lies. I am a bi-racial woman riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #110

Ironcially, New York literally dumped their poo in Sierra Blanca from 1992-2001. Trainloads of it. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #109

Why is that ironic? You don't explain that bit. MADem Nov 2015 #129

It's ironic because you and others keep saying 'VT sent their shit to Texas' and 'flinging poo' Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #149

As I've said elsewhere, in the context of this candidacy, the MADem Nov 2015 #150

yep in 1998 2 years after Bill Clinton won re-election on the backs of the poor across the board azurnoir Nov 2015 #47

I said I refuse to believe it bravenak Nov 2015 #48

Wonder why all the nuke dumps are in dry western states? eridani Nov 2015 #66

You'd prefer that they dump it on MILLIONS of brown, blackfolk in the northeast corridor? Armstead Nov 2015 #68

Poor white folks. progressoid Nov 2015 #151

K&R Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #3

I'm not a fan of nuclear fission power jfern Nov 2015 #4

Near the poor he claims to champion. RandySF Nov 2015 #5

Those poor brown souls. bravenak Nov 2015 #6

Maybe some merit his attention more than others. RandySF Nov 2015 #9

Sure seems like it bravenak Nov 2015 #11

Look, ideally we wouldn't have nuclear fission power with all its radioactive problems jfern Nov 2015 #10

There's an excuse for everything, isn't there? RandySF Nov 2015 #15

My question you didn't answer was an excuse? jfern Nov 2015 #19

How about the hundreds of thousands of square miles in America where... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #16

I don't know if they pick the middle of nowhere for low level radioactive waste jfern Nov 2015 #21

It is more authentic to dump in the West ban-- I mean Texas LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #14

Absolutely BainsBane Nov 2015 #17

I'm pretty sure Vermont was too wet jfern Nov 2015 #26

Shhhh JackInGreen Nov 2015 #28

It had nothing to do with their race BainsBane Nov 2015 #50

Vermont did just shut down their nuclear power plant jfern Nov 2015 #54

Sierra Blanca never saw any waste from VT, NY however sent them sewage from 92-2001 hundreds Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #143

K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #7

Obviously those Texans are corporatists BainsBane Nov 2015 #12

But I'm sure she would have voted against it. Right? Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #20

This again? blackspade Nov 2015 #23

Hmmm... SoapBox Nov 2015 #27

Then it should have been perfectly safe to keep it in Vermont. RandySF Nov 2015 #34

Or Maine! SoapBox Nov 2015 #35

Or Texas! Since they were involved too! SoapBox Nov 2015 #36

This has been explained a number of times. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #39

Because they run out of things to attack Bernie with jfern Nov 2015 #45

Thank you! SoapBox Nov 2015 #53

Probably the same was true of Maine. Environment is virtually the same as Vermont. Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2015 #69

You're granting the attackers a presumption of sincerity that is not justified n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #132

So next time, dump it Arlington. Feeling the Bern Nov 2015 #40

Sierra Blanca, TX...more interesting by the moment. SoapBox Nov 2015 #51

So...Sanders represented VT on nuclear waste. And Clinton represented NY on Iraq. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #52

No, New Yorkers aren't a bunch of dumb warmongers jfern Nov 2015 #57

But NYC did send tons of human waste to Sierra Blanca Texas by the trainload instead of processing Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #112

OMG! The Low Level Nuclear Waste site, was NEVER built! SoapBox Nov 2015 #56

Biggest scandal ever! jfern Nov 2015 #58

Well, no nuclear waste was ever shipped there but NYC sent human waste to Sierra Blanca by train Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #105

Well, well...President Clinton! SoapBox Nov 2015 #60

as Senator representing Vermont it was his job to do what he could to help Vermont JI7 Nov 2015 #61

Hillary voted for the Iraq war! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #63

go start your own thread. Try to keep this one one topic. riversedge Nov 2015 #88

I Remember that! My county was one of the finalist competing for that site! LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #64

We all can remember this, failing to convert even one Sanders supporter, from a couple of months djean111 Nov 2015 #67

Why would this be a scandal? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #70

The multi-state "compact" proposal was part of a larger scheme jberryhill Nov 2015 #127

Whoops Bernie's halo needs a little adjusting workinclasszero Nov 2015 #78

From The Texas Observer.. posted on FB.. Cha Nov 2015 #91

Repeat! It was never built! And the measure was signed by President CLINTON! SoapBox Nov 2015 #104

Bernie's stand and attempts at pushing this forward is a big fucking deal Sheepshank Nov 2015 #141

Not the point RandySF Nov 2015 #152

Actually randy, it is exactly the point. 99Forever Nov 2015 #160

This particular item was posted once before. Vinca Nov 2015 #118

Bernie's fellow Vermonters, many of them, agreed with the people from TX and apologized to them. MADem Nov 2015 #128

So you think a site abutting the Connecticut River isn't subject to flooding? Vinca Nov 2015 #135

You're telling me that VT has NO real estate to stash their own shit? MADem Nov 2015 #137

Wow - you're totally overwhelmed with Bernie hate, aren't you? Vinca Nov 2015 #157

But it's Sanders so it's ok. giftedgirl77 Nov 2015 #126

Wow. This was an ugly act against a poor Mexican populace. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #131

Really? You going to push that baloney...again? Really? SoapBox Nov 2015 #148

I got it, Texas will ship Vermont their nuclear waste, now that would be fair. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #164

As they say, truth matters...and hurts. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #190

Because he never thought he would ever seek their votes. RandySF Nov 2015 #182

Kick & recommended. William769 Nov 2015 #138

Real clear on the Real Clear Politics... SoapBox Nov 2015 #145

So voting for an illegal war is fine then Politicalboi Nov 2015 #153

Maybe you could sign up for some of the nuclear waste in order to support Sanders, show how it is Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #165

Fighting Amongst Ourselves paul ofnoclique Nov 2015 #168

I have brought this issue up a couple of times Chitown Kev Nov 2015 #178