2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Has anyone noticed this shift in thinking about Clinton from Sanders folks? [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,444 posts)a Democratic Socialist and a Social Democrat. I didn't know there was a difference, either, until I read their definitions. If you want links to their well-researched, well-written, easy-to-understand posts, I'll provide them to you since I've bookmarked them.
As you continue to read my post, please keep in mind that Bernie Sanders has never, not even once, called himself a Social Democrat. He consistently self-identifies as a Democratic Socialist.
Denmark, and just about every other wealthy and well-to-do country in Northern Europe and Nordic countries, are NOT democratic socialist countries. They're social democracies. You'd be surprised to know that the United States of America is a social democracy, too, although the socialism side isn't as strong as that in the Northern European countries or the Nordic countries. I agree that we should strengthen that part, but not do away with capitalism altogether. People would still like the option to open their own businesses and strive to be successful at it. That's capitalism.
Attempts by the Democratic Socialists of America and by Bernie Sanders have been made to blur the two in order to hide the true ideology of those groups/people...they are Socialists exactly as we know the word to mean: groups and people who reject capitalism and embrace socialism as a whole, since the opposite of capitalism is socialism.
Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy aren't synonyms. They are two different political ideologies.
Democratic Socialism is pure socialism; it rejects the social democratic view of reform through state intervention within capitalism, seeing capitalism as inherently incompatible with the democratic values of freedom, equality, and solidarity.
Social Democracy is a political ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a capitalist economy.
Since Bernie Sanders consistently calls himself a Democratic Socialist and not a Social Democrat, and since we all can agree he's an intelligent and well-read man who knows the difference, I make the case that Sanders is a straight-up Socialist hiding behind the root-word, Democratic, so he won't scare supporters off. But make no mistake...Sanders is a Socialist, not a Social Democrat, which O'Malley and Clinton are.
Republicans are purely Capitalists.
Democrats are Social Democrats.
Bernie Sanders is a Socialist.
That said, I agree that all three candidates running for the Democratic Party presidential nomination will do well IF we can give them a Congress that will work with them.